Need More Counters To SWF
There definitely need to be more counters when playing against SWF. The next update preventing dead survivors from seeing a killers perk loadout is a great start, but I feel there needs to be slightly more done. Whether it's perk changes or allowing killer to refuse SWF games, or whatever. High rank killer matches are already stressful enough since the survivors are good players, but playing against an SWF group makes it unbearable.
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How many hours you at brother?
I play on PS4 so I'm not exactly sure. I've had the game since around september 2017, so I would assume a few hundred hours. Give or take.
and did you play PTB cuz if you want more nerf for SWF the only thing that i see its bond and kindred not a perk but as a kit
That's not really a nerf to SWF though, SWF players don't need bond when they can just communicate and tell the others where they are.
In fact, SWF benefit from that too
i think you dont undertand i was saying that there will be no more nerf for SWF the only thing that they can do and they confirmed but i dont know when its that solo survivors will get a buff to make them the same lvl as the SWF
it is a huge nerf make them not seen youre perks its a huge nerf so that they dont know what perks and addons you have
git gud
Also the devs stated you were never supposed to see the Killers Perks and be able to relay them to the squad. This is because the game was always supposed to be balanced around solo play.
The only correct step adressing the SWF/solo thing is implementing ingame voice comms.
That would be the worst solution ever.
For the reason why it is stupid AF, look at F13.
I don't understand that, it doesn't make a lot of sense. How would making survivors stronger nerf SWF? By making the survivors stronger you make SWF stronger. If it becomes easier for solo players then a whole team on comms will do significantly better.
We do.
It's called go Legion when you notice it's a SWF group.
They wanna ruin your fun, ruin there fun.
I don't things it's a HUGE nerf, but its a good starting point. Obviously throughout the game you're going to figure out some of the perks they have and possibly even their add ons if you have a good amount of knowledge on the killer. The only thing it really prevents is knowing if players have perks such as NOED, OR Dying Light, etc. . . Basically, perks that you don't know the killer has until mid to late game.
Solo on the other hand has 0 informations and with kindred base kit it gives them 10/10 "buff points".
Solo got buffed more than swf.
Now we can do general survivor nerfs for example a second objective or whatever.
Yeah but there's still only so much legion can do. Plus, considering how many people are upset with the new legion buffs and the fact that he has no counters, he's going to get nerfed sometime soon. So that won't last long.
Use him while you can.
Killers don't have fun vs SWF.
Survivors Don't have fun vs Legion.
You see a SWF go Legion.
Thats the thing, I dont want to be forced to play legion every single game because I'm only going against SWF. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing legion, but I would also like to play other killer without having to stress out the entire game trying to get at least 2 kills.
Also another SWF buster I use is Doctor.
Add Ons: Calm and Order (Purple or Yellow)
Perks: Unnerving Presence, Distressing Presence, Ruin, and Overcharge
Just three Gen the hell out of them, and drag the game out as long as possible.
Had a game last 45 minutes once where the SWF group gave up one at a time and just let me kill them.
I've done that before, it works pretty well lol. Same with Freddy. Sadly, I recently prestige my doctor and the bloodweb has just been giving me terrible perks and add ons.
I feel that, recently P1'd my Freddy..NO BS...one blood web had Insidious and Deerstalker on it...feelsbadman.
The problem with that is killers in DBD are hard pressed to keep up with the speed of voice chat. They would need serious buffs to do so. Especially since a lot of SWFs prey on low ranks.
I feel that.
P1'd my Freddy recently, and no Joke..most recent Bloodweb had..Insidious and Deerstalker on it for my Perk Choices. FeelsBadMan
Recently my Wraith bloodweb was forcing me to get tinkerer. I intentionally avoided it 4 times, but it kept appearing as the ONLY perk in the bloodweb so I had no choice but to get it just so I can get a different perk.
I would rather move on to a new match than guard 3 gens. I can earn more BP that way. Regarding SWF I would be happy if they just gave a BP bonus for the extra effort required and identify them as SWF after the match is completed so there is no doubt.
Of course the voice comms are only on the survivors side, otherwise it would be absurd
Of course
So?
It doesn't change anything.
The last thing I want to hear when playing as a survivor is another guy using their mic, especially as it will mostly be a russian 12 yo kid munching on random objects while being yelled by their mom.
No, thank you.
VOIP is one of the worst things in random plays.
Game is perfectly fine without ANY voip communications, as it was actually created to be played without any vocal/spoken/text comms to begin with.
Explain to me why voice comms work in games like CSGO or overwatch for example?
Why can't people accept that this isn't the best plan, people aren't going to use in game comms when they've already got voice comms already? Both pc and consoles already have voice comes and no one's going to join it just to listen to a screaming 12 year old.
Some groups are just talking about real life stuff as they play, gf's, work etc type of stuff and they're not going to join in game voice to do that.
Now before you start with the well you can simply mute them in game, well gee Sherlock that's a great idea except for when I've got a chainsaw wielding killer on my arse. You can't pause the game to hit escape then go into your settings then choose mute.
Then your excuses are well you can just mute it at the start of the game, well then what's the point of having it if I'm never going to use it. Well for those that want to use it, well guess what they already have options if they want to use voice.
League already tried in game voice behind the scenes testing and it went just as everyone here said it would, BADLY. Oh and then there's the toxicity factor, you can't report someone for screaming racial or death threats etc on in game voice.
To really put the nail in the in game voice comms coffin, you're saying that if they implement this you can buff killers. Well that's extremely flawed logic because if most people don't use it then killers get buffed for something not being used.
I still think they should just allow killers to have the choice to face an SWF group or not. SWF groups should have an icon indicating they're in an group letting the killer know. Or even if it's a lobby option where you can turn play against SWF on or off.
Although I hate going against some SWF groups, this is NOT a good idea because barely any killers will opt-in for that. People complain about queue times already so implementing this would make them even worse and I'd rather have a match against a SWF team than sitting in matchmaking for 20+ minutes.
If barely any killers would opt in for that, it wouldn't make much of a difference would it? If less than 10% of the killer player base opted in for that it wouldn't make a big enough difference to matchmaking. It would just make it easier for the solo survivor players to find lobbies.
No, because if most of the player base is swf you're not going to get lobbies very quickly and since a lot of killers have said they'd dodge regardless it won't work.
Besides if they split the lobbies off like that killers are going to get nerfed back since right now they've been slowly being buffed with swf in mind.
just make kindred or bond in the next ptb and ppl will like it since mathiu promised kindred to be as a kit in they stream along time ago