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DS nerf when?

PinkEricka PinkEricka
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As a person who mostly likes playing Survivor, I really want DS to be nerfed. 

I understand that it’s a perk that’s unfair to the killer and I saw that as I was playing Killer a bit more awhile back, I just never spoke on it.

I don’t know what they’re planning on doing with this perk and I don’t see how it could be possibly be “balanced” without one side taking a disadvantage or disliking how it is.

I’m looking forward to this nerf mostly because of my friends.

They are very closed minded and think that the perk is balanced when it’s really not. They see it as balanced because it’s a hit or miss, and that the skill check is very hard to hit when in reality, it isn’t unless you’re getting an unexpected 3 o’clock skill check or if the killer has unnerving presence.

I really want people to realize that you DONT need DS all the time and to give killers the equal amount of chances that survivors get in certain scenarios.

I used to run DS a long time ago and it got to the point where I ran it so much that I eventually thought that I “needed” it, but I really didn’t. So I can kinda understand why a majority of survivors, along with my friends think this way.

I swapped my DS for borrowed time/WGLF and I do not regret it at all.

Has there been any PTB for DS rework or what?

Comments

  • MyNamePete MyNamePete

    DS is literally hit or miss, I guess they never miss huh?

  • Condorloco_26 Condorloco_26

    @ForeheadSurviors said:

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    The fact you still think rank even matters just debunks your entire argument. Purple rank can still get matched with Red ranks and i don’t play full time on console but from my time playing there its easy compared to pc.

    The fact that you think your opinion is worth more than others just debunks your entire argument. We can do this all day long, buddy.

  • PinkEricka PinkEricka
    MyNamePete said:

    DS is literally hit or miss, I guess they never miss huh?

    @MyNamePete Missing is occasional if you run that perk all the time. The skill check isn’t that hard to hit.
  • ad19970 ad19970

    @Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    PinkEricka said:

    ToxicFengM1n said:

@PinkEricka said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said: ToxicFengM1n said:

    In the higher ranks, some people learned that ds can be not as annoying by running enduring, so that ds is less hard hitting and you can get back in action fast, ds really does not need a nerf or buff, and I play killer 75% of my games        @ToxicFengM1n As I stated earlier in the comments, there are certain times that DS will rob killers of a well deserved kill, that’s the unfair part about it.    I don’t mind getting stunned, it’s the fact that a kill I worked for just got a free escape. Especially, when they get too cocky and teabag at the exit gate and get downed just to DS out. It rewards bad survivors.    If you’re going to give survivors a perk to escape

    the killers grasp, at least have a downside to it like @I_am_Negan suggested. Make it an unnerving presence skill check or give them the broken/no mither status. If they decide to not do anything about it, that’s cool too because at the end of the day, it’s just a game.  I like the idea of broken status effect when using the perk, forcing survivors to hold onto it @ToxicFengM1n yes! I know people are going to be pissed as hell when it gets nerfed, but I feel like it would really shed some light to try and get survivors to use other perks. 

    Community-wise also since the boosted ones always rely on it, I feel like it’ll help people play more efficiently and not too cocky.



A good idea for you all in community to evaluate is DS can get nerfed in a good way, I am not being rude, but DS is in my opinion the hardest perk to nerf, its like freddy, one nerf can make it too weak, one buff can make it too strong, reworking DS would take too long, and the people who say remove ds, you guys have ran this perk before, dont lie about it, a good way to nerf it is making it give you broken for 120/100/80 seconds and reduced action speeds by 14/13/12% for the rest of the trial after use, the skill check could be smaller and the stun time can be reduced, but this can lead to survivors not liking it and I hate making perk ideas that are not the best



I really like this idea. Tagging @not_Queen , even though I doubt she’ll see it heh.

Damn, you really give up fast. 

    A injured survivor who's being chased anyway wouldn't have time to heal. So this uhh nerf is like trying to fight global warming by throwing ice cubes into the ocean. 

    The big aspect of this nerf would be that the survivor would suffer a reduced action speed for the rest of the trail. Maybe even increase it to 15% for all tiers. That would definitely be a nice nerf without making the perk useless.

    Survivors would save DS for the last hook. Gates are powered at this point. Or it wouldn't matter anyway. 

    Still better than now though, where the DS just wastes an insane amount of time. Sometimes, if you do good enough as a killer, it won't ever get to the point of the exit gates being powered. And when only 2 or 3 survivors are alive, it's not that bad to get hit by DS.
    At least my problem with DS is that it just wastes so much time for the killer, especially at the beginning. Of course, though, maybe there is a better way to nerf DS.
    I'd honestly be happy if they just removed it until they found a way to nerf it properly.

  • Tsulan Tsulan
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    PinkEricka said:

    ToxicFengM1n said:

@PinkEricka said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said: ToxicFengM1n said:

    In the higher ranks, some people learned that ds can be not as annoying by running enduring, so that ds is less hard hitting and you can get back in action fast, ds really does not need a nerf or buff, and I play killer 75% of my games        @ToxicFengM1n As I stated earlier in the comments, there are certain times that DS will rob killers of a well deserved kill, that’s the unfair part about it.    I don’t mind getting stunned, it’s the fact that a kill I worked for just got a free escape. Especially, when they get too cocky and teabag at the exit gate and get downed just to DS out. It rewards bad survivors.    If you’re going to give survivors a perk to escape

    the killers grasp, at least have a downside to it like @I_am_Negan suggested. Make it an unnerving presence skill check or give them the broken/no mither status. If they decide to not do anything about it, that’s cool too because at the end of the day, it’s just a game.  I like the idea of broken status effect when using the perk, forcing survivors to hold onto it @ToxicFengM1n yes! I know people are going to be pissed as hell when it gets nerfed, but I feel like it would really shed some light to try and get survivors to use other perks. 

    Community-wise also since the boosted ones always rely on it, I feel like it’ll help people play more efficiently and not too cocky.



A good idea for you all in community to evaluate is DS can get nerfed in a good way, I am not being rude, but DS is in my opinion the hardest perk to nerf, its like freddy, one nerf can make it too weak, one buff can make it too strong, reworking DS would take too long, and the people who say remove ds, you guys have ran this perk before, dont lie about it, a good way to nerf it is making it give you broken for 120/100/80 seconds and reduced action speeds by 14/13/12% for the rest of the trial after use, the skill check could be smaller and the stun time can be reduced, but this can lead to survivors not liking it and I hate making perk ideas that are not the best



I really like this idea. Tagging @not_Queen , even though I doubt she’ll see it heh.

Damn, you really give up fast. 

    A injured survivor who's being chased anyway wouldn't have time to heal. So this uhh nerf is like trying to fight global warming by throwing ice cubes into the ocean. 

    The big aspect of this nerf would be that the survivor would suffer a reduced action speed for the rest of the trail. Maybe even increase it to 15% for all tiers. That would definitely be a nice nerf without making the perk useless.

    Survivors would save DS for the last hook. Gates are powered at this point. Or it wouldn't matter anyway. 

    Still better than now though, where the DS just wastes an insane amount of time. Sometimes, if you do good enough as a killer, it won't ever get to the point of the exit gates being powered. And when only 2 or 3 survivors are alive, it's not that bad to get hit by DS.
    At least my problem with DS is that it just wastes so much time for the killer, especially at the beginning. Of course, though, maybe there is a better way to nerf DS.
    I'd honestly be happy if they just removed it until they found a way to nerf it properly.

    1 DS is just annoying. 
    4 DS could mean a complete loss for the killer. 
    It all depends on how good those survivors are.
    For bad survivors it's just some extra time. For good survivors it's a extra life.
  • Hoodied Hoodied

    @PinkEricka said:
    ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said:

    ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

    In the higher ranks, some people learned that ds can be not as annoying by running enduring, so that ds is less hard hitting and you can get back in action fast, ds really does not need a nerf or buff, and I play killer 75% of my games @ToxicFengM1n As I stated earlier in the comments, there are certain times that DS will rob killers of a well deserved kill, that’s the unfair part about it. I don’t mind getting stunned, it’s the fact that a kill I worked for just got a free escape. Especially, when they get too cocky and teabag at the exit gate and get downed just to DS out. It rewards bad survivors. If you’re going to give survivors a perk to escape

    the killers grasp, at least have a downside to it like @I_am_Negan suggested. Make it an unnerving presence skill check or give them the broken/no mither status.

If they decide to not do anything about it, that’s cool too because at the end of the day, it’s just a game. 



I like the idea of broken status effect when using the perk, forcing survivors to hold onto it



@ToxicFengM1n yes! I know people are going to be pissed as hell when it gets nerfed, but I feel like it would really shed some light to try and get survivors to use other perks. 

    Community-wise also since the boosted ones always rely on it, I feel like it’ll help people play more efficiently and not too cocky.

    A good idea for you all in community to evaluate is DS can get nerfed in a good way, I am not being rude, but DS is in my opinion the hardest perk to nerf, its like freddy, one nerf can make it too weak, one buff can make it too strong, reworking DS would take too long, and the people who say remove ds, you guys have ran this perk before, dont lie about it, a good way to nerf it is making it give you broken for 120/100/80 seconds and reduced action speeds by 14/13/12% for the rest of the trial after use, the skill check could be smaller and the stun time can be reduced, but this can lead to survivors not liking it and I hate making perk ideas that are not the best

    I really like this idea. Tagging @not_Queen , even though I doubt she’ll see it heh.

    I made a reworked idea of this, https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/40973/decisive-strike-perk-rework-towards-the-entire-perk-long#latest

  • ForeheadSurviors ForeheadSurviors
    Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    PinkEricka said:

    ToxicFengM1n said:

@PinkEricka said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said: ToxicFengM1n said:

    In the higher ranks, some people learned that ds can be not as annoying by running enduring, so that ds is less hard hitting and you can get back in action fast, ds really does not need a nerf or buff, and I play killer 75% of my games        @ToxicFengM1n As I stated earlier in the comments, there are certain times that DS will rob killers of a well deserved kill, that’s the unfair part about it.    I don’t mind getting stunned, it’s the fact that a kill I worked for just got a free escape. Especially, when they get too cocky and teabag at the exit gate and get downed just to DS out. It rewards bad survivors.    If you’re going to give survivors a perk to escape

    the killers grasp, at least have a downside to it like @I_am_Negan suggested. Make it an unnerving presence skill check or give them the broken/no mither status. If they decide to not do anything about it, that’s cool too because at the end of the day, it’s just a game.  I like the idea of broken status effect when using the perk, forcing survivors to hold onto it @ToxicFengM1n yes! I know people are going to be pissed as hell when it gets nerfed, but I feel like it would really shed some light to try and get survivors to use other perks. 

    Community-wise also since the boosted ones always rely on it, I feel like it’ll help people play more efficiently and not too cocky.



A good idea for you all in community to evaluate is DS can get nerfed in a good way, I am not being rude, but DS is in my opinion the hardest perk to nerf, its like freddy, one nerf can make it too weak, one buff can make it too strong, reworking DS would take too long, and the people who say remove ds, you guys have ran this perk before, dont lie about it, a good way to nerf it is making it give you broken for 120/100/80 seconds and reduced action speeds by 14/13/12% for the rest of the trial after use, the skill check could be smaller and the stun time can be reduced, but this can lead to survivors not liking it and I hate making perk ideas that are not the best



I really like this idea. Tagging @not_Queen , even though I doubt she’ll see it heh.

Damn, you really give up fast. 

    A injured survivor who's being chased anyway wouldn't have time to heal. So this uhh nerf is like trying to fight global warming by throwing ice cubes into the ocean. 

    The big aspect of this nerf would be that the survivor would suffer a reduced action speed for the rest of the trail. Maybe even increase it to 15% for all tiers. That would definitely be a nice nerf without making the perk useless.

    Survivors would save DS for the last hook. Gates are powered at this point. Or it wouldn't matter anyway. 

    Still better than now though, where the DS just wastes an insane amount of time. Sometimes, if you do good enough as a killer, it won't ever get to the point of the exit gates being powered. And when only 2 or 3 survivors are alive, it's not that bad to get hit by DS.
    At least my problem with DS is that it just wastes so much time for the killer, especially at the beginning. Of course, though, maybe there is a better way to nerf DS.
    I'd honestly be happy if they just removed it until they found a way to nerf it properly.

    1 DS is just annoying. 
    4 DS could mean a complete loss for the killer. 
    It all depends on how good those survivors are.
    For bad survivors it's just some extra time. For good survivors it's a extra life.
    Or maybe you’re not as good as you think you’re. Or git gud
  • Tsulan Tsulan
    ForeheadSurviors said:
    Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    PinkEricka said:

    ToxicFengM1n said:

@PinkEricka said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said: ToxicFengM1n said:

    In the higher ranks, some people learned that ds can be not as annoying by running enduring, so that ds is less hard hitting and you can get back in action fast, ds really does not need a nerf or buff, and I play killer 75% of my games        @ToxicFengM1n As I stated earlier in the comments, there are certain times that DS will rob killers of a well deserved kill, that’s the unfair part about it.    I don’t mind getting stunned, it’s the fact that a kill I worked for just got a free escape. Especially, when they get too cocky and teabag at the exit gate and get downed just to DS out. It rewards bad survivors.    If you’re going to give survivors a perk to escape

    the killers grasp, at least have a downside to it like @I_am_Negan suggested. Make it an unnerving presence skill check or give them the broken/no mither status. If they decide to not do anything about it, that’s cool too because at the end of the day, it’s just a game.  I like the idea of broken status effect when using the perk, forcing survivors to hold onto it @ToxicFengM1n yes! I know people are going to be pissed as hell when it gets nerfed, but I feel like it would really shed some light to try and get survivors to use other perks. 

    Community-wise also since the boosted ones always rely on it, I feel like it’ll help people play more efficiently and not too cocky.



A good idea for you all in community to evaluate is DS can get nerfed in a good way, I am not being rude, but DS is in my opinion the hardest perk to nerf, its like freddy, one nerf can make it too weak, one buff can make it too strong, reworking DS would take too long, and the people who say remove ds, you guys have ran this perk before, dont lie about it, a good way to nerf it is making it give you broken for 120/100/80 seconds and reduced action speeds by 14/13/12% for the rest of the trial after use, the skill check could be smaller and the stun time can be reduced, but this can lead to survivors not liking it and I hate making perk ideas that are not the best



I really like this idea. Tagging @not_Queen , even though I doubt she’ll see it heh.

Damn, you really give up fast. 

    A injured survivor who's being chased anyway wouldn't have time to heal. So this uhh nerf is like trying to fight global warming by throwing ice cubes into the ocean. 

    The big aspect of this nerf would be that the survivor would suffer a reduced action speed for the rest of the trail. Maybe even increase it to 15% for all tiers. That would definitely be a nice nerf without making the perk useless.

    Survivors would save DS for the last hook. Gates are powered at this point. Or it wouldn't matter anyway. 

    Still better than now though, where the DS just wastes an insane amount of time. Sometimes, if you do good enough as a killer, it won't ever get to the point of the exit gates being powered. And when only 2 or 3 survivors are alive, it's not that bad to get hit by DS.
    At least my problem with DS is that it just wastes so much time for the killer, especially at the beginning. Of course, though, maybe there is a better way to nerf DS.
    I'd honestly be happy if they just removed it until they found a way to nerf it properly.

    1 DS is just annoying. 
    4 DS could mean a complete loss for the killer. 
    It all depends on how good those survivors are.
    For bad survivors it's just some extra time. For good survivors it's a extra life.
    Or maybe you’re not as good as you think you’re. Or git gud
    Never said it means a loss for ME.
    Read again. 

    DS users that tell others to git gud are hilarious btw.
  • ForeheadSurviors ForeheadSurviors
    Tsulan said:
    ForeheadSurviors said:
    Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    PinkEricka said:

    ToxicFengM1n said:

@PinkEricka said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said: ToxicFengM1n said:

    In the higher ranks, some people learned that ds can be not as annoying by running enduring, so that ds is less hard hitting and you can get back in action fast, ds really does not need a nerf or buff, and I play killer 75% of my games        @ToxicFengM1n As I stated earlier in the comments, there are certain times that DS will rob killers of a well deserved kill, that’s the unfair part about it.    I don’t mind getting stunned, it’s the fact that a kill I worked for just got a free escape. Especially, when they get too cocky and teabag at the exit gate and get downed just to DS out. It rewards bad survivors.    If you’re going to give survivors a perk to escape

    the killers grasp, at least have a downside to it like @I_am_Negan suggested. Make it an unnerving presence skill check or give them the broken/no mither status. If they decide to not do anything about it, that’s cool too because at the end of the day, it’s just a game.  I like the idea of broken status effect when using the perk, forcing survivors to hold onto it @ToxicFengM1n yes! I know people are going to be pissed as hell when it gets nerfed, but I feel like it would really shed some light to try and get survivors to use other perks. 

    Community-wise also since the boosted ones always rely on it, I feel like it’ll help people play more efficiently and not too cocky.



A good idea for you all in community to evaluate is DS can get nerfed in a good way, I am not being rude, but DS is in my opinion the hardest perk to nerf, its like freddy, one nerf can make it too weak, one buff can make it too strong, reworking DS would take too long, and the people who say remove ds, you guys have ran this perk before, dont lie about it, a good way to nerf it is making it give you broken for 120/100/80 seconds and reduced action speeds by 14/13/12% for the rest of the trial after use, the skill check could be smaller and the stun time can be reduced, but this can lead to survivors not liking it and I hate making perk ideas that are not the best



I really like this idea. Tagging @not_Queen , even though I doubt she’ll see it heh.

Damn, you really give up fast. 

    A injured survivor who's being chased anyway wouldn't have time to heal. So this uhh nerf is like trying to fight global warming by throwing ice cubes into the ocean. 

    The big aspect of this nerf would be that the survivor would suffer a reduced action speed for the rest of the trail. Maybe even increase it to 15% for all tiers. That would definitely be a nice nerf without making the perk useless.

    Survivors would save DS for the last hook. Gates are powered at this point. Or it wouldn't matter anyway. 

    Still better than now though, where the DS just wastes an insane amount of time. Sometimes, if you do good enough as a killer, it won't ever get to the point of the exit gates being powered. And when only 2 or 3 survivors are alive, it's not that bad to get hit by DS.
    At least my problem with DS is that it just wastes so much time for the killer, especially at the beginning. Of course, though, maybe there is a better way to nerf DS.
    I'd honestly be happy if they just removed it until they found a way to nerf it properly.

    1 DS is just annoying. 
    4 DS could mean a complete loss for the killer. 
    It all depends on how good those survivors are.
    For bad survivors it's just some extra time. For good survivors it's a extra life.
    Or maybe you’re not as good as you think you’re. Or git gud
    Never said it means a loss for ME.
    Read again. 

    DS users that tell others to git gud are hilarious btw.
    People that complain on the forums 24/7 about everything are hilarious btw.
  • Tsulan Tsulan
    ForeheadSurviors said:
    Tsulan said:
    ForeheadSurviors said:
    Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:
    ad19970 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    PinkEricka said:

    ToxicFengM1n said:

@PinkEricka said:

ToxicFengM1n said:

    @PinkEricka said: ToxicFengM1n said:

    In the higher ranks, some people learned that ds can be not as annoying by running enduring, so that ds is less hard hitting and you can get back in action fast, ds really does not need a nerf or buff, and I play killer 75% of my games        @ToxicFengM1n As I stated earlier in the comments, there are certain times that DS will rob killers of a well deserved kill, that’s the unfair part about it.    I don’t mind getting stunned, it’s the fact that a kill I worked for just got a free escape. Especially, when they get too cocky and teabag at the exit gate and get downed just to DS out. It rewards bad survivors.    If you’re going to give survivors a perk to escape

    the killers grasp, at least have a downside to it like @I_am_Negan suggested. Make it an unnerving presence skill check or give them the broken/no mither status. If they decide to not do anything about it, that’s cool too because at the end of the day, it’s just a game.  I like the idea of broken status effect when using the perk, forcing survivors to hold onto it @ToxicFengM1n yes! I know people are going to be pissed as hell when it gets nerfed, but I feel like it would really shed some light to try and get survivors to use other perks. 

    Community-wise also since the boosted ones always rely on it, I feel like it’ll help people play more efficiently and not too cocky.



A good idea for you all in community to evaluate is DS can get nerfed in a good way, I am not being rude, but DS is in my opinion the hardest perk to nerf, its like freddy, one nerf can make it too weak, one buff can make it too strong, reworking DS would take too long, and the people who say remove ds, you guys have ran this perk before, dont lie about it, a good way to nerf it is making it give you broken for 120/100/80 seconds and reduced action speeds by 14/13/12% for the rest of the trial after use, the skill check could be smaller and the stun time can be reduced, but this can lead to survivors not liking it and I hate making perk ideas that are not the best



I really like this idea. Tagging @not_Queen , even though I doubt she’ll see it heh.

Damn, you really give up fast. 

    A injured survivor who's being chased anyway wouldn't have time to heal. So this uhh nerf is like trying to fight global warming by throwing ice cubes into the ocean. 

    The big aspect of this nerf would be that the survivor would suffer a reduced action speed for the rest of the trail. Maybe even increase it to 15% for all tiers. That would definitely be a nice nerf without making the perk useless.

    Survivors would save DS for the last hook. Gates are powered at this point. Or it wouldn't matter anyway. 

    Still better than now though, where the DS just wastes an insane amount of time. Sometimes, if you do good enough as a killer, it won't ever get to the point of the exit gates being powered. And when only 2 or 3 survivors are alive, it's not that bad to get hit by DS.
    At least my problem with DS is that it just wastes so much time for the killer, especially at the beginning. Of course, though, maybe there is a better way to nerf DS.
    I'd honestly be happy if they just removed it until they found a way to nerf it properly.

    1 DS is just annoying. 
    4 DS could mean a complete loss for the killer. 
    It all depends on how good those survivors are.
    For bad survivors it's just some extra time. For good survivors it's a extra life.
    Or maybe you’re not as good as you think you’re. Or git gud
    Never said it means a loss for ME.
    Read again. 

    DS users that tell others to git gud are hilarious btw.
    People that complain on the forums 24/7 about everything are hilarious btw.
    I know, it's pathetic...

    Btw. Running out of arguments?
    Or do you feel personally attacked?
    Just curious. 
  • RoKrueger RoKrueger
    I use Rancor or a Mori on the obsesion to dodge DS. If that is not viable, it is dribling time. Practice makes perfect (and I have much practice to do LOL).
  • Vesperiavi Vesperiavi
    DS doesn't bother me, I play killer (and survivor) and it's a one time thing, just turn around and get them again. I personally don't see the problem. It's like Deliverance to me. Cheeky escape trick but it's only a one time ordeal.
  • Slayer Slayer
    Ds is strong perk but so are the addons for nurse or hillbilly. If you dont like a challenge against survivors just play meta killers with meta builds ,addons. Whats the problem?
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