Deliverance should give u a chance when you are least surv

Instead of just dying in the hook, cuz deliverance could make u escape + DS + DH = survive then

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  • You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

  • @Shad03 said:
    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    so the weakest killer (leatherface) becomes the strongest just for that situationn lol

  • @BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:
    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    Most thought they could do that to me. It's simple to wait for Dead Hard and to juggle them back to the hook if they are a few meters away. You are not seeing the big picture here, since chances are if a killer wants you to die, you most likely WILL die.

  • I mean, you can have it. I usually stay in front of the last hook anyway, so good luck escaping lol.
  • @Shad03 said:

    @BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:
    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    Most thought they could do that to me. It's simple to wait for Dead Hard and to juggle them back to the hook if they are a few meters away. You are not seeing the big picture here, since chances are if a killer wants you to die, you most likely WILL die.

    will depend on how skilled the killer is, baby killerinos may fail miserably

  • @Shad03 said:
    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    so the weakest killer (leatherface) becomes the strongest just for that situationn lol

    DH won't work, cuz decent killer wait anyway some seconds after a unhook cuz if the new introduced i-frames. You won't escape, period.
  • @BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:
    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    Most thought they could do that to me. It's simple to wait for Dead Hard and to juggle them back to the hook if they are a few meters away. You are not seeing the big picture here, since chances are if a killer wants you to die, you most likely WILL die.

    will depend on how skilled the killer is, baby killerinos may fail miserably

    The problem varies. But if you are generally within the 12-1 ranks then you get no chance.

  • @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:

    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    so the weakest killer (leatherface) becomes the strongest just for that situationn lol

    DH won't work, cuz decent killer wait anyway some seconds after a unhook cuz if the new introduced i-frames. You won't escape, period.

    true, but non-decent killers will fail miserably

  • @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:

    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    so the weakest killer (leatherface) becomes the strongest just for that situationn lol

    DH won't work, cuz decent killer wait anyway some seconds after a unhook cuz if the new introduced i-frames. You won't escape, period.

    true, but non-decent killers will fail miserably

    Maybe, hard to tell. They will fall once but never again (unless it's a stupid idiot).
    But why are you bullying newbies lol
  • @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:

    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    so the weakest killer (leatherface) becomes the strongest just for that situationn lol

    DH won't work, cuz decent killer wait anyway some seconds after a unhook cuz if the new introduced i-frames. You won't escape, period.

    true, but non-decent killers will fail miserably

    Get this inside your thick survivor head: If you are the last survivor and get hooked You - Will - Die! 
    There is no counter play
  • @RoKrueger said:
    BACKSTABBER said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:
    
    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.
    
    
    
    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby
    
    so the weakest killer (leatherface) becomes the strongest just for that situationn lol
    

    DH won't work, cuz decent killer wait anyway some seconds after a unhook cuz if the new introduced i-frames. You won't escape, period.

    true, but non-decent killers will fail miserably

    Get this inside your thick survivor head: If you are the last survivor You - Will - Die! 
    There is no counter play

    lol im 80% killer

    I simply find the perk useless for that situation

  • its kinda youre fault of been the last survivor you should be the first or second survivor so that the others can do the gens so that if the killer gets you, you have a free escape

  • @BACKSTABBER said:

    @Shad03 said:
    You and several others asked for this. The answer will possibly still be no. Since if this becomes a thing, killers will know you have it and will stick right in front of you until you use it, or you are on second hook. That's just the way it is.

    If a killer (other than a leaderface with chainsaw charging) is in front of me, I will use deadhard + DS to escape if possible, it is not that much difficult if hatch or open gates are nearby

    so the weakest killer (leatherface) becomes the strongest just for that situationn lol

    LOLOLOLOLOL LEATHERFACE IS WAY STRONGER THAN FREDDY.

  • @BACKSTABBER said:
    Instead of just dying in the hook, cuz deliverance could make u escape + DS + DH = survive then

    No to 2 minutes holding the game hostage, thanks

  • All survivors must be treated equally: the last survivor has their right to try escaping from the hook, not to win (probably they will fail), but to get points and a better emblem. About the second phase, it can be omitted, but with full struggling points granted. If some people are against this, then they deserve the killer points for the last hook are at least halved.
  • I've actually kobe'd off the hook and gottne the hatch because the killer knew i had it and waited to me until the other person sacrifice started. They hooked me thinking I couldn't kboe but because the sacrifice animation hadn't completed i was able to kobe after they ran off.

  • No. Point.
    Killers (that aren't 20s) would then just stay in front of the hook and wait for you to use it.

  • Milo said:

    No. Point.
    Killers (that aren't 20s) would then just stay in front of the hook and wait for you to use it.

    There’s 1500 Blood Points even if you go down immediately.
  • And then killer will just stay under the hook and it would make the change pointless.

    So why should they bother about doing a pointless change when even direly needed change like hiding the killer loadout until the game end took them more than two year to implement when it is just 10 or so line of code?

  • This is what I mean

    1st hook, deliverance enabled, no chance to use my DH to escape the hatch just behind me

  • Milo said:

    No. Point.
    Killers (that aren't 20s) would then just stay in front of the hook and wait for you to use it.

    There’s 1500 Blood Points even if you go down immediately.
    Okay you got me there. But then we would have to give the option to everyone. Yknow that 4% can give you 1500 ;)

    @BACKSTABBER
    How did you caught? Instadown? Did the killer know where you were after someone died? Did the last person dc?
  • @Milo said:
    @BACKSTABBER
    How did you caught? Instadown? Did the killer know where you were after someone died? Did the last person dc?

    is that relevant? dont remember~~

  • ...because hatch mechanics, DS, Adrenaline and actually filling the Deliverance perk criteria normally just is not enough?

  • @BACKSTABBER said:

    @Milo said:
    @BACKSTABBER
    How did you caught? Instadown? Did the killer know where you were after someone died? Did the last person dc?

    is that relevant? dont remember~~

    It is. Cause probably this wouldn't even be a post if you escaped.

  • @ModernFable said:
    Milo said:

    No. Point.

    Killers (that aren't 20s) would then just stay in front of the hook and wait for you to use it.

    There’s 1500 Blood Points even if you go down immediately.

    Potential 1,5k BP for a single survivor vs 2 minute holding the game hostage?

    The devs made the right decision if you ask me

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  • @BACKSTABBER said:
    This is what I mean

    1st hook, deliverance enabled, no chance to use my DH to escape the hatch just behind me

    That sounds like a standoff waiting to happen.

  • I'd prefer we not have a match wide safety net. Perks are better left with situational conditions so that some level of intelligence is needed to make use of them. Half of your goal is not to be hooked aftetall.
  • Assuming you're the last survivor and you got hooked, you probably blew through DS already and either hit or missed it, so I'd rule that out.

    As far as DH goes, that's good for one swing. You're still by no means safe, you're only about a meter away. Any half decent killer is going to know you have DH if they've already hooked you, so they can easily bait it out.

    So ultimately the killer can just down you immediately and there's still next to no chance you're getting away anyway, unless a brand new killer somehow killed everyone else and then caught you, hooks you, and then fumbles around cluelessly. That's just not something that happens.
  • @Peanits said:
    Assuming you're the last survivor and you got hooked, you probably blew through DS already and either hit or missed it, so I'd rule that out.

    As far as DH goes, that's good for one swing. You're still by no means safe, you're only about a meter away. Any half decent killer is going to know you have DH if they've already hooked you, so they can easily bait it out.

    So ultimately the killer can just down you immediately and there's still next to no chance you're getting away anyway, unless a brand new killer somehow killed everyone else and then caught you, hooks you, and then fumbles around cluelessly. That's just not something that happens.

    in this match the killer went to damage a generator and could have escaped through hatch

  • @BACKSTABBER said:

    @Peanits said:
    Assuming you're the last survivor and you got hooked, you probably blew through DS already and either hit or missed it, so I'd rule that out.

    As far as DH goes, that's good for one swing. You're still by no means safe, you're only about a meter away. Any half decent killer is going to know you have DH if they've already hooked you, so they can easily bait it out.

    So ultimately the killer can just down you immediately and there's still next to no chance you're getting away anyway, unless a brand new killer somehow killed everyone else and then caught you, hooks you, and then fumbles around cluelessly. That's just not something that happens.

    in this match the killer went to damage a generator and could have escaped through hatch

    Probably went to damage a generator since they knew you were dead. If there was a change that didn't make you die instantly they would probably have stayed to wait.

  • @Peanits said:
    Assuming you're the last survivor and you got hooked, you probably blew through DS already and either hit or missed it, so I'd rule that out.

    As far as DH goes, that's good for one swing. You're still by no means safe, you're only about a meter away. Any half decent killer is going to know you have DH if they've already hooked you, so they can easily bait it out.

    So ultimately the killer can just down you immediately and there's still next to no chance you're getting away anyway, unless a brand new killer somehow killed everyone else and then caught you, hooks you, and then fumbles around cluelessly. That's just not something that happens.

    in this match the killer went to damage a generator and could have escaped through hatch

    Right, because you're dead and cannot escape, so they can safely leave and break stuff for points. If you could every killer would stand right there in case you get off. There'd be no reason not to.
  • Milo said:
    Milo said:

    No. Point.
    Killers (that aren't 20s) would then just stay in front of the hook and wait for you to use it.

    There’s 1500 Blood Points even if you go down immediately.
    Okay you got me there. But then we would have to give the option to everyone. Yknow that 4% can give you 1500 ;)
    I don’t see a reason not to. It’s just a matter of losing points despite surviving the longest. Similar to how you don’t get your Struggle points too.

    Either way the Killer only has to sit in front of you to make sure you don’t escape, so there shouldn’t be any problem there.
  • Just take the loss, man.

  • @Peanits said:
    BACKSTABBER said:

    @Peanits said:

    Assuming you're the last survivor and you got hooked, you probably blew through DS already and either hit or missed it, so I'd rule that out.

    As far as DH goes, that's good for one swing. You're still by no means safe, you're only about a meter away. Any half decent killer is going to know you have DH if they've already hooked you, so they can easily bait it out.
    

    So ultimately the killer can just down you immediately and there's still next to no chance you're getting away anyway, unless a brand new killer somehow killed everyone else and then caught you, hooks you, and then fumbles around cluelessly. That's just not something that happens.

    in this match the killer went to damage a generator and could have escaped through hatch

    Right, because you're dead and cannot escape, so they can safely leave and break stuff for points. If you could every killer would stand right there in case you get off. There'd be no reason not to.

    nope cuz not every surv would equip deliverance, and greedy killers would go destroying pallets or dameging gens likely not 100% of times