DS & the "fun" mentality

Vane

In the dev stream that i watched they said they are making killers that are fun not necessarily powerful. Fine, if that's the case remove the one thing ( DS ) or change it so that us killer mains get to have fun too. Since this last killer/DLC getting BMed at constantly, tea bagged, and squaded DS teams has increased for some reason.

If the devs really want to live up to the "fun" mentality REMOVE/CHANGE NOED & DS. I would happily give up noed if DS wasn't around. Things need to change or its going to push us 1k Plus hour people away.

powerbats

@DarkGGhost said:
@powerbats every kill has a drawback. If the killer camp the last 3 gens you only have to go fix them and when you hear the heartbeat you run away if the killer follows you he\she will lose the game and maybe you will survey. If you don\t know wher the hatch is just follow the heartbeat and you will find it if the killer camp it just fix the gen/s it's so eazy and work if you have QI 90+

Well M&A works wonders for that, Insidious and M&A is evil and as far as following the heartbeat sneaky killers play mind games with that. The'll go someplace where they can be close to the hatch but to get to it the survivor has to go past them.

For instance they'll camp a hill and stay on top of it looking around then jump off do a mini patrol and circle right back to it. So the survivor hears the heartbeat and thinks the killer is guarding the hatch and it's not actually there.

DarkGGhost

@powerbats said:

@DarkGGhost said:
@powerbats every kill has a drawback. If the killer camp the last 3 gens you only have to go fix them and when you hear the heartbeat you run away if the killer follows you he\she will lose the game and maybe you will survey. If you don\t know wher the hatch is just follow the heartbeat and you will find it if the killer camp it just fix the gen/s it's so eazy and work if you have QI 90+

Well M&A works wonders for that, Insidious and M&A is evil and as far as following the heartbeat sneaky killers play mind games with that. The'll go someplace where they can be close to the hatch but to get to it the survivor has to go past them.

For instance they'll camp a hill and stay on top of it looking around then jump off do a mini patrol and circle right back to it. So the survivor hears the heartbeat and thinks the killer is guarding the hatch and it's not actually there.

ok so you are rank 13 at best

Vietfox

DarkGGhost said:

@powerbats said:

@DarkGGhost said:
@powerbats every kill has a drawback. If the killer camp the last 3 gens you only have to go fix them and when you hear the heartbeat you run away if the killer follows you he\she will lose the game and maybe you will survey. If you don\t know wher the hatch is just follow the heartbeat and you will find it if the killer camp it just fix the gen/s it's so eazy and work if you have QI 90+

Well M&A works wonders for that, Insidious and M&A is evil and as far as following the heartbeat sneaky killers play mind games with that. The'll go someplace where they can be close to the hatch but to get to it the survivor has to go past them.

For instance they'll camp a hill and stay on top of it looking around then jump off do a mini patrol and circle right back to it. So the survivor hears the heartbeat and thinks the killer is guarding the hatch and it's not actually there.

ok so you are rank 13 at best

You gotta love this kind of people @powerbats 😂

powerbats

@DarkGGhost said:

ok so you are rank 13 at best

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That old adage popped into my head when I read this so here.

mcNuggets

@The_Crusader said:
3 gen strats are easy to beat with 3-4 people. I've done many.

The survivors can do the gens faster than the killer can patrol them. If everyone makes the effort to do gens then the killer will realize they're losing and commit to a chase eventually, allowing the last to finish a gen. It only sucks if you get a hatch camping Claudette.

If there's only 2 people I assume the killer would be hunting down the survivors anyway.

Not if the killer has overcharge, or is a hillbilly.

Also picture above: No one had DS, of course you get a 3k

Master

@powerbats said:

@Master said:

If the killer nevre commits to a chase, you simply tap the gen.
Sure it takes a lot more time than usual, but its far from unbeatable..... dont forget that its 1vs4 and the killer has to manage 4 survivors at 3 gens

You're assuming it's a 1 v4 and not a 1v3 or 1v 2 or even a 1v1 if the gens are just far enough apart. Prior to Spirit coming out me and 2 other solos faced a really good 3 gen strat Doc on Backwater Swamp. It took us over half an hour to finally beat him.

If it's the right killer and the right gen placement it's nigh impossible to beat.

If survivors actually died before the 3genstrat took place, then the killer commited to the chase/hook and gaev up on the gen strat. If the survivors then do the wrong gens, then its completely their fault

Vietfox

Master said:

@powerbats said:

@Master said:

If the killer nevre commits to a chase, you simply tap the gen.
Sure it takes a lot more time than usual, but its far from unbeatable..... dont forget that its 1vs4 and the killer has to manage 4 survivors at 3 gens

You're assuming it's a 1 v4 and not a 1v3 or 1v 2 or even a 1v1 if the gens are just far enough apart. Prior to Spirit coming out me and 2 other solos faced a really good 3 gen strat Doc on Backwater Swamp. It took us over half an hour to finally beat him.

If it's the right killer and the right gen placement it's nigh impossible to beat.

If survivors actually died before the 3genstrat took place, then the killer commited to the chase/hook and gaev up on the gen strat. If the survivors then do the wrong gens, then its completely their fault

@Master
You can commit to the chase and not give up on the 3 gen strat, i've done it lots of times.
Does it work every time? No, but it's quite possible to do both things. In my experience most of the times 1 or 2 survivors are dead already when there are 3 gens left in the map.

Master

@Vietfox said:
Master said:

@powerbats said:

 @Master said:

  If the killer nevre commits to a chase, you simply tap the gen.

Sure it takes a lot more time than usual, but its far from unbeatable..... dont forget that its 1vs4 and the killer has to manage 4 survivors at 3 gens

You're assuming it's a 1 v4 and not a 1v3 or 1v 2 or even a 1v1 if the gens are just far enough apart. Prior to Spirit coming out me and 2 other solos faced a really good 3 gen strat Doc on Backwater Swamp. It took us over half an hour to finally beat him.

If it's the right killer and the right gen placement it's nigh impossible to beat.

If survivors actually died before the 3genstrat took place, then the killer commited to the chase/hook and gaev up on the gen strat. If the survivors then do the wrong gens, then its completely their fault

@Master
You can commit to the chase and not give up on the 3 gen strat, i've done it lots of times.
Does it work every time? No, but it's quite possible to do both things. In my experience most of the times 1 or 2 survivors are dead already when there are 3 gens left in the map.

Well then its the survivors fault for maneuvering themselves in this situation.
Which gen you do is the ONLY tactical decision you need to make as surivor, but sometimes they dont even think about that.

Vietfox

Master said:

@Vietfox said:
Master said:

@powerbats said:

 @Master said:

  If the killer nevre commits to a chase, you simply tap the gen.

Sure it takes a lot more time than usual, but its far from unbeatable..... dont forget that its 1vs4 and the killer has to manage 4 survivors at 3 gens

You're assuming it's a 1 v4 and not a 1v3 or 1v 2 or even a 1v1 if the gens are just far enough apart. Prior to Spirit coming out me and 2 other solos faced a really good 3 gen strat Doc on Backwater Swamp. It took us over half an hour to finally beat him.

If it's the right killer and the right gen placement it's nigh impossible to beat.

If survivors actually died before the 3genstrat took place, then the killer commited to the chase/hook and gaev up on the gen strat. If the survivors then do the wrong gens, then its completely their fault

@Master
You can commit to the chase and not give up on the 3 gen strat, i've done it lots of times.
Does it work every time? No, but it's quite possible to do both things. In my experience most of the times 1 or 2 survivors are dead already when there are 3 gens left in the map.

Well then its the survivors fault for maneuvering themselves in this situation.
Which gen you do is the ONLY tactical decision you need to make as surivor, but sometimes they dont even think about that.

What i meant is that i can chase and still kinda control what gens i don't want to be done. You don't necessarily need to give up on the 3 gen strat because of a chase.

powerbats

@Vietfox said:

What i meant is that i can chase and still kinda control what gens i don't want to be done. You don't necessarily need to give up on the 3 gen strat because of a chase.

This it's not always the survivors fault despite the killers ALWAYS wanting to place blame there. I mean it obviously can't be because a high mobility killer ot good gen control killer plays well.