all this time has passed...
... and people still think that SWF isn't the main issue of the game. whenever i look at the forum i see always the same things: survivors who complain about killers being buffed/tunneling/camping/etc etc and killers complain about survivors who genrush/abuse 2nd chances perks/bully squads with flashlights/etc etc. Both problems have something in common: swf. you are probably wondering how... well, killers wouldn't probably feel the need to play in certain (unfunny) way if swf wouldn't exist (mainly due to the HUGE amount of toxicity and disadvantages that they must endure when aganist those kind of teams) and survivors would have probably be buffed accordingly since swf wouldn't screw up the statistics... imo SWF shouldn't be in the game (or to be more precise... it should be available ONLY in custom matches)
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To be precise i don't want swf in regular matches... As I said before it could still be a used feature in custom matches, but normal ones should be only solo q players.
Eh, maybe you aren't wrong, I versed too many swf bully squads and until now the only killers that could gave them what they want are the usual 2 killers and bubba. Anyway the things that I've mentioned aren't all 2nd chances perks, but I can assure you that it feels extremely unfair when those things happen, especially when you know that you don't deserve it.
Absolutely not. I already did a couple of examples of why swf are a problem in the 1st answers in that thread.
Also this. Those matches are more common that you will expect.
Again, typical answer for people that play only a single side
True, certain maps are simply unplayable with certain killers
SWF is kinda mandatory now for survivors because solo queue is a nightmare. You think 4 solos like dealing with Nurse, blight, thana legion???
“To be precise i don't want swf in regular matches... As I said before it could still be a used feature in custom matches, but normal ones should be only solo q players.” Gee I wonder why. That very well sounds like someone that wants to win every single game since solo que is so week. Thank god the devs won’t listen to you because your ideas are horrendous
Im sorry but it is probably on you for believing a few hundred people saying something would cause every killer in existance to change how they play. I haven't tunneled or camped except during the endgame since the update dropped but that doesn't mean every killer in existance has stopped because from playing survivor its pretty aparent they haven't. I do not get this whole arguement of "Killers said they would stop" because in reality it would probably be less than 1000 people you have seen say something like that which is far FAR below the amount of killers. Just because one person said it they arent speaking for the whole role...
This is point, is not it?
Op is saying killers could not play like that (tunnel and camp) but SWF exists. It will not happen but if BHVR removes SWF from game, all killers will play fair? They will stop to use strong anti-gen perks? Will they stop tunnel people?
We both know, no. Everyone are not same. Some people will do whatever they want, they won't care it is fair or not.
I never said that all the killers will probably stop tunneling, but you have to deal with those 2 troubles 1st: make swf only a feature available only in custom matches and add a new mechanic that will gave reasons to killer for not tunneling... You have to give killers valid alternatives for avoid tunneling if you want see tunneling disappearing... If that tactic is so common it's because it's effective, don't you think? It's like a survivor who went to finish a gen almost completed and just kicked by the killer 1 second ago, in the middle of the map in order to split the pressure that the killer could have and make easier for survivors to work on the remaining gens without worrying about the killer being near: the concept is the same
Did I talked that I want win every match? I really don't see anything like that... Stop putting words in my mouth that are straight up lies, I want fair matches, not the bullshit that we have actually now with those swf around... I gave valid points for my reasons and suggested valid solutions unlike you that keep screaming "waaah, bad killers want ez match, solo queue unplayable, nerf killers". So at this point you have 2 choices: start using some logic and make some valid arguments or just straight up ignore this thread cause you won't have anything constructive to say, thanks