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Sadako Has 2 Serious Problems

MikaelaWantsYourBoon MikaelaWantsYourBoon
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  1. It is so hard to build stacks to condemn survivor as killer but it is so easy to remove stacks as survivor. So what is point then? Power is not creating slowdown for her. It is not threat for survivors. So why she has it? Only for reference to movies?
  2. Teleport cooldown is destroying her. She has limited televisions in area. And when she use television, she can not teleport again this area. She has to wait really long time for make television on again. Why teleport-type killer has that long limited with her power?
  3. BONUS: This is not big as first 2 but lullaby is also so bad. Why stealth killer has it anyway? If they fix other parts of her kit, i would be okey for lullaby maybe. But for now, lullaby is also destroying her.


She needs major buffs with next mid-chapter. Some number changes will not make her okey.

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  • Chilli_man2400 Chilli_man2400

    Here’s how to fix all 3 problems.

    1. when a survivor is within 16 meters of a powered tv condemnation will start building up. You get a stack for every 24 seconds you are within the tv range. Once you hit 7 stacks you cannot remove your stacks. You suffer from exposed when at 7 stacks.
    2. Change the teleport times. When Sadako teleports the tv cooldown is 60 seconds and when a survivor shuts a tv off the cooldown is 100 seconds.
    3. Lullaby could possibly stay if these 2 changes above were implemented if not then just remove it

    That’s how I would fix Sadako

  • GoodBoyKaru GoodBoyKaru

    @Chilli_man2400 said:

    Here’s how to fix all 3 problems.

    1. when a survivor is within 16 meters of a powered tv condemnation will start building up. You get a stack for every 24 seconds you are within the tv range. Once you hit 7 stacks you cannot remove your stacks. You suffer from exposed when at 7 stacks.
    2. Change the teleport times. When Sadako teleports the tv cooldown is 60 seconds and when a survivor shuts a tv off the cooldown is 100 seconds.
    3. Lullaby could possibly stay if these 2 changes above were implemented if not then just remove it

    That’s how I would fix Sadako

    Also

    - Depositing a tape into a TV only removes 3 full Condemned bars. If you're at 3 3/4 then it won't reset you to 0 anymore but to 3/4.

    - Hitting a survivor post-manifest adds 1 stack of Condemned. Idk that seems fun.

    - Inserting a tape now takes longer than the basic attack animation.

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon MikaelaWantsYourBoon

    @Chilli_man2400 said:

    Here’s how to fix all 3 problems.

    1. when a survivor is within 16 meters of a powered tv condemnation will start building up. You get a stack for every 24 seconds you are within the tv range. Once you hit 7 stacks you cannot remove your stacks. You suffer from exposed when at 7 stacks.
    2. Change the teleport times. When Sadako teleports the tv cooldown is 60 seconds and when a survivor shuts a tv off the cooldown is 100 seconds.
    3. Lullaby could possibly stay if these 2 changes above were implemented if not then just remove it

    That’s how I would fix Sadako

    Using tapes should take long time too. Even Pig has slowdown from her passive power but Sadako has not anything.

  • Chilli_man2400 Chilli_man2400

    @GoodBoyKaru said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3000328#Comment_3000328

    Also

    - Depositing a tape into a TV only removes 3 full Condemned bars. If you're at 3 3/4 then it won't reset you to 0 anymore but to 3/4.

    - Hitting a survivor post-manifest adds 1 stack of Condemned. Idk that seems fun.

    - Inserting a tape now takes longer than the basic attack animation.

    1. I agree with that it’s annoying how it completely resets it should just be the bars not all of it.
    2. with my change above might be to strong
    3. I agree
  • deKlaw_04 deKlaw_04

    @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    1. It is so hard to build stacks to condemn survivor as killer but it is so easy to remove stacks as survivor. So what is point then? Power is not creating slowdown for her. It is not threat for survivors. So why she has it? Only for reference to movies?
    2. Teleport cooldown is destroying her. She has limited televisions in area. And when she use television, she can not teleport again this area. She has to wait really long time for make television on again. Why teleport-type killer has that long limited with her power?
    3. BONUS: This is not big as first 2 but lullaby is also so bad. Why stealth killer has it anyway? If they fix other parts of her kit, i would be okey for lullaby maybe. But for now, lullaby is also destroying her.

    She needs major buffs with next mid-chapter. Some number changes will not make her okey.

    Buff demogorgon instead😁

  • Chocolate_Cosmos Chocolate_Cosmos

    Here is my list of changes to make her at least somewhat decent:

    • Remove lullaby from her stealth.
    • If you get Condement by any means (Sadako teleport hit, interacting with tapes, etc.) your Condement meter will keep rising until you remove it by interacting with specific TV (so passive build up after being hit by TV teleports, small slowdown you know... to not make it worthless status effect).
    • Reduce TVs cooldowns from 100s ---> 75s, Cooldown of turned off TV by Survivors 60s ---> 45s.
  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon MikaelaWantsYourBoon

    @Chocolate_Cosmos said:

    Here is my list of changes to make her at least somewhat decent:

    • Remove lullaby from her stealth.
    • If you get Condement by any means (Sadako teleport hit, interacting with tapes, etc.) your Condement meter will keep rising until you remove it by interacting with specific TV (so passive build up after being hit by TV teleports, small slowdown you know... to not make it worthless status effect).
    • Reduce TVs cooldowns from 100s ---> 75s, Cooldown of turned off TV by Survivors 60s ---> 45s.

    75s is still so long. It should be 60s. They can nerf her add-ons which makes teleport cooldown shorter. But her basekit needs love. I agree with other parts.

  • Chocolate_Cosmos Chocolate_Cosmos

    @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3000363#Comment_3000363

    75s is still so long. It should be 60s. They can nerf her add-ons which makes teleport cooldown shorter. But her basekit needs love. I agree with other parts.

    Sure.

  • Seraphor Seraphor

    @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3000363#Comment_3000363

    75s is still so long. It should be 60s. They can nerf her add-ons which makes teleport cooldown shorter. But her basekit needs love. I agree with other parts.

    Also if survivors are forced to interact with TVs more often, it's going to impact your ability to teleport, so reduce the cooldown on switched off TVs even further to 30s.

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon MikaelaWantsYourBoon

    @Seraphor said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3000371#Comment_3000371

    Also if survivors are forced to interact with TVs more often, it's going to impact your ability to teleport, so reduce the cooldown on switched off TVs even further to 30s.

    This depends how they will change the tape part. If they makes using tapes slower (like 10-15 seconds) then i am okey for 45 seconds. If they won't change it, then yeah this cooldown also needs to be shorter.

  • Crowman Crowman

    I don't think the tvs need to passively apply condemnation. Lowering Sadakos TV teleport cd increases how frequently she applies condemnation which in turn forces survivors to have to grab tapes and turn them in.

    Here iri videotape addon makes sadako threatening because her tvs are constantly active and survivors actually have some threat to being fully condemned.

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