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Explain how is this fair

jamally093 jamally093
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I've played 1 killer match since rank reset how is this fair in the slightest

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  • ElusivePukka ElusivePukka

    Grade (we don't have ranks anymore) doesn't impact matchmaking - only your performance for kills/escapes influences MMR.

  • Nathan13 Nathan13

    It’s matching you up against survivors based off your MMR with your killer. Not like the old rank system.

  • StarLost StarLost

    @jamally093 said:

    I've played 1 killer match since rank reset how is this fair in the slightest

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    It's not.

    Three things to consider though:

    • Matchmaking was on the fritz last night. If you played then, welcome to the Wild West. I got bizarro matchups too.
    • If I recall, killer MMR resets after 3 weeks of inactivity with that killer. When you start again, your new MMR is pegged to the MMR of your highest killer (yes, that's bonkers, but it is what it is). It'll take a dozen or so games to stabilize at a reasonable MMR. If need be, just goof off for a while.
    • There are a lot of SWFs/survivors that smurf their MMR down to either get their grades up ultra fast (if you do it at 0 pips there is no downside as you can't lose grades, then you just roflstomp enough games to rank up until you start struggling, then AFK/suicide/DC out 10 games or so), troll/stomp newer killers or look better on stream. Yes, it sucks, yes, BHVR should be detecting this and dealing with it but again, it is what it is. I run into them a fair bit, and if I see an obvious SWF with fancy skins, I'll dodge the lobby.
  • Pulsar Pulsar

    @ElusivePukka said:

    Grade (we don't have ranks anymore) doesn't impact matchmaking - only your performance for kills/escapes influences MMR.

    Grade is a tell-tale tho.

    You still have to pip and play a ton to be Iridescent.

  • ElusivePukka ElusivePukka

    @Pulsar said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629440#Comment_2629440

    Grade is a tell-tale tho.

    You still have to pip and play a ton to be Iridescent.

    I get pips from 1ks and dying, even in Iri, so not really. MMR hates those, the emblems tolerate and even love them provided you're simply participating. Grade's definitely a time-played measure, but it's even less a measure of skill than MMR is due to the lack of de-grading - law of averages just says it's going up, provided the MMR system doesn't put you in a death spiral.

  • Pulsar Pulsar

    @ElusivePukka said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629461#Comment_2629461

    I get pips from 1ks and dying, even in Iri, so not really. MMR hates those, the emblems tolerate and even love them provided you're simply participating. Grade's definitely a time-played measure, but it's even less a measure of skill than MMR is due to the lack of de-grading - law of averages just says it's going up, provided the MMR system doesn't put you in a death spiral.

    Someone who puts in 100 hours a month probably isn't going to keep playing if they die all the time tho

    I'm not saying it's a hard indicator, but it is a tip-off

  • ElusivePukka ElusivePukka

    @Pulsar said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2629469#Comment_2629469

    Someone who puts in 100 hours a month probably isn't going to keep playing if they die all the time tho

    I'm not saying it's a hard indicator, but it is a tip-off

    If it helps see my perspective: the percentage of players getting/having Legendary Killer/Survivor achievements has been rising ever since the MMR/grade system replaced ranks.

  • kaeru kaeru

    I was playing Clown on Midwich and survivors DC after few chases. And in postgame chat they blamed matchmaking for putting them against red grade killer. I can't even say they were bad. They did some gens and their looping was pretty average. I consider myself as average killer especially as Clown on Midwich. If they stay it still would be a fair match.

    Majority of players still think that grades are used for matchmaking.

  • Nathan13 Nathan13

    @kaeru said:

    I was playing Clown on Midwich and survivors DC after few chases. And in postgame chat they blamed matchmaking for putting them against red grade killer. I can't even say they were bad. They did some gens and their looping was pretty average. I consider myself as average killer especially as Clown on Midwich. If they stay it still would be a fair match.

    Majority of players still think that grades are used for matchmaking.

    Or the survivors are probably new to this MMR.

  • Beaburd Beaburd

    You know, it's funny.

    I just had a couple games in a row where I, as a ~2k hour killer, have been facing a bunch of 50 hour and under play-time survivors.

    I actually feel so bad, the games are a slaughter.

    I wonder if MMR is messed up atm? Normally I face more experienced players but today is really odd.

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