killers need to be buffed then if sbmm exists

killers that aren't nurse and spirit take advantage of solos and low skilled survivors because those killers are not strong enough to handle swf


but now sbmm exists the only survivors you'll get are competent ones this is just forcing us to only play nurse or spirit now,


all other killers need to be on the same level as nurse and spirit if this update is going to happen

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  • Honestly how is it possible that so few people seem capable of understanding how the SBMM / MMR system works, its truly insane.

  • Tony I've seen your killer gameplay I think you'll be alright somehow

  • @Aneurysm said:

    Tony I've seen your killer gameplay I think you'll be alright somehow

    I'm red ranked


    it's swf that is giving me a bad time

  • If killers need to be buffed, MMR will show that.

  • If you're facing competent survivors outside of playing Nurse and Spirit then you must be competent at that killer as well, otherwise you wouldnt be facing competent survivors.

  • With SBMM you will be matched with survivors at your skill level.

    Please remember that Ranks a very small indicator of current skill levels, and is more an indicator of time put in. You can have a Rank 13 who's amazing at the game and better than someone at Rank 1 - they just don't play that often for example.

  • @Mandy said:

    With SBMM you will be matched with survivors at your skill level.

    Please remember that Ranks a very small indicator of current skill levels, and is more an indicator of time put in. You can have a Rank 13 who's amazing at the game and better than someone at Rank 1 - they just don't play that often for example.

    @Lord_Tony said:

    killers that aren't nurse and spirit take advantage of solos and low skilled survivors because those killers are not strong enough to handle swf

    but now sbmm exists the only survivors you'll get are competent ones this is just forcing us to only play nurse or spirit now,

    all other killers need to be on the same level as nurse and spirit if this update is going to happen

    Isnt one of the points that each killer has an individuall mmr-rating? So basicly if a killer comes to a skill level where he is capped, he shouldn´t rise higher but stay there?

    Also, while you can have an amazing Rank 13 that doesnt play often, you can also have a potatoe who doesnt play that often. In red ranks, however, you can be sure that you have people that either know the game for playing it much or that have some decent skill, and if you are lucky, both.

  • @sulaiman said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2416112#Comment_2416112

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/271785/killers-need-to-be-buffed-then-if-sbmm-exists

    Isnt one of the points that each killer has an individuall mmr-rating? So basicly if a killer comes to a skill level where he is capped, he shouldn´t rise higher but stay there?

    Also, while you can have an amazing Rank 13 that doesnt play often, you can also have a potatoe who doesnt play that often. In red ranks, however, you can be sure that you have people that either know the game for playing it much or that have some decent skill, and if you are lucky, both.

    Yes you will have different levels with different killers depending on your own competency with those killers. I don't think it's about "capping" a skill level, as despite many people thinking Trapper is weak or that Pig is weak you have some people that are absolutely incredible with these killers and do very very well with them. But if an individual is not great with those killers then obviously they'll get matched with weaker survivors.

    For example, my nurse is god awful so I wouldn't get matched with the same survivors that I do with my wraith for example.

    And your point about the rank 13 that could be amazing or be a potato is exactly the point I am making. Right now the current matchmaking system is not ideal for ranking matches as it's such a mismatch of levels, you can have someone at Rank 1 who's incredible at the game, and you can also have someone at Rank 1 who's average at the game, but plays a lot. Which is why SBMM will make fairer match-ups and have people at the same level playing together.

  • if you cant handle survivors at ur skill level just say so, lord tony

  • @Mandy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2416124#Comment_2416124

    Yes you will have different levels with different killers depending on your own competency with those killers. I don't think it's about "capping" a skill level, as despite many people thinking Trapper is weak or that Pig is weak you have some people that are absolutely incredible with these killers and do very very well with them. But if an individual is not great with those killers then obviously they'll get matched with weaker survivors.

    For example, my nurse is god awful so I wouldn't get matched with the same survivors that I do with my wraith for example.

    And your point about the rank 13 that could be amazing or be a potato is exactly the point I am making. Right now the current matchmaking system is not ideal for ranking matches as it's such a mismatch of levels, you can have someone at Rank 1 who's incredible at the game, and you can also have someone at Rank 1 who's average at the game, but plays a lot. Which is why SBMM will make fairer match-ups and have people at the same level playing together.

    You have really good point here.

    MMR should kinda balance killers, because no matter how good you are overall as killer, you will have worse results with weaker killers. So you will play against worse survivors, in theory at least.

    So in long run, MMR will punish high MMR survivors more than killers, because they will face only top tier killers, who will tryhard a lot.

  • @Dino7281 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2416173#Comment_2416173

    You have really good point here.

    MMR should kinda balance killers, because no matter how good you are overall as killer, you will have worse results with weaker killers. So you will play against worse survivors, in theory at least.

    So in long run, MMR will punish high MMR survivors more than killers, because they will face only top tier killers, who will tryhard a lot.

    Is it really punishment to be matched with players who stand a chance against you though?

  • @Aneurysm said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2416272#Comment_2416272

    Is it really punishment to be matched with players who stand a chance against you though?

    It will become boring to face same killers over and over again with no way to change it other than play meme builds for few weeks and lose lot of games, so I would say yes.

    Lot of players hate Nurse / Spirit, so that will not help neither.

  • @Mandy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2416124#Comment_2416124

    Yes you will have different levels with different killers depending on your own competency with those killers. I don't think it's about "capping" a skill level, as despite many people thinking Trapper is weak or that Pig is weak you have some people that are absolutely incredible with these killers and do very very well with them. But if an individual is not great with those killers then obviously they'll get matched with weaker survivors.

    For example, my nurse is god awful so I wouldn't get matched with the same survivors that I do with my wraith for example.

    And your point about the rank 13 that could be amazing or be a potato is exactly the point I am making. Right now the current matchmaking system is not ideal for ranking matches as it's such a mismatch of levels, you can have someone at Rank 1 who's incredible at the game, and you can also have someone at Rank 1 who's average at the game, but plays a lot. Which is why SBMM will make fairer match-ups and have people at the same level playing together.

    I am pretty sure that if rank 13 is better than red ranks, its probably a player that has multiple DBD accounts and purposely plays on de-ranks accounts to face weaker players. red ranks is still probably were majority of good players are. Its more that there is large variety of skill-levels within the same rank. there is like saying with this. "Your only as good as the players you verse". how hard it is to pip is based off how well other side plays. so in retro spec., I think the reason why emblem system ranking system has such various skill-level pool is that there is like multiple levels of players.

    Like think about it this way. imagine a ladder that has 100 steps. between rank 20-5. If the player cannot reach step 0-50 on ladder. they'll be stuck between rank 5-20. When you hit red rank, there is no higher rank in DBD, but there are still 50 more steps to the ladder. red ranks has players between 50-100 steps moving up ladder.

    Suppose your at step 70 with a killer. as long your facing survivors in red ranks or any other rank for that matter below 0-70, you will be able pip because your better than your better than your opponent. as soon as you start facing player above that step ladder, you'll start losing rank/black piping. so when people say Nurse and Spirit are only killers they'll ever see, what they mean is that those killers have larger skill-floor and skill-ceiling to make it to step 90. People that Smurf accounts are outliers, they be rated on ladder at like 30, but their real skill is probably 75 or something like that. Because there is such large discrepancy, it leads to a lot of disagreements. it has a lot to do with flawed system of black pips and rank reset being pretty awful. I am honestly not even sure why rank resets even exist.

    This is definitely one of biggest problems in DBD. It makes killers really hard to balance, I am not even sure how you guys even manage it to be honest.

    Ohtofu has insight video explaining this. Perhaps he explains it a lot better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YJPOW7bwgs&t=4s

  • @Devil_hit11 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2416173#Comment_2416173

    I am pretty sure that if rank 13 is better than red ranks, its probably a player that has multiple DBD accounts and purposely plays on de-ranks accounts to face weaker players. red ranks is still probably were majority of good players are. Its more that there is large variety of skill-levels within the same rank. there is like saying with this. "Your only as good as the players you verse". how hard it is to pip is based off how well other side plays. so in retro spec., I think the reason why emblem system ranking system has such various skill-level pool is that there is like multiple levels of players.

    Like think about it this way. imagine a ladder that has 100 steps. between rank 20-5. If the player cannot reach step 0-50 on ladder. they'll be stuck between rank 5-20. When you hit red rank, there is no higher rank in DBD, but there are still 50 more steps to the ladder. red ranks has players between 50-100 steps moving up ladder.

    Suppose your at step 70 with a killer. as long your facing survivors in red ranks or any other rank for that matter below 0-70, you will be able pip because your better than your better than your opponent. as soon as you start facing player above that step ladder, you'll start losing rank/black piping. so when people say Nurse and Spirit are only killers they'll ever see, what they mean is that those killers have larger skill-floor and skill-ceiling to make it to step 90. People that Smurf accounts are outliers, they be rated on ladder at like 30, but their real skill is probably 75 or something like that. Because there is such large discrepancy, it leads to a lot of disagreements. it has a lot to do with flawed system of black pips and rank reset being pretty awful. I am honestly not even sure why rank resets even exist.

    This is definitely one of biggest problems in DBD. It makes killers really hard to balance, I am not even sure how you guys even manage it to be honest.

    Ohtofu has insight video explaining this. Perhaps he explains it a lot better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YJPOW7bwgs&t=4s

    Or that person just played customs a lot, or didn't play at all?

    Oracle is probably best team in the world and when they destroyed TrueTalent, they had ranks 6, 8, 10, 12.

  • @Dino7281 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2417254#Comment_2417254

    Or that person just played customs a lot, or didn't play at all?

    Oracle is probably best team in the world and when they destroyed TrueTalent, they had ranks 6, 8, 10, 12.

    yes it would be classified as smurfing. why does it occur? rank reset. I guess that is the advantage of MMR over emblems.

  • @Devil_hit11 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2417286#Comment_2417286

    yes it would be classified as smurfing. why does it occur? rank reset. I guess that is the advantage of MMR over emblems.

    Not playing is not smurfing....

    Creating new account is smurfing.