Melodious Murder Trickster was better than "Buffed" Trickster
Melodious Murder Trickster had:
7 Knives to Down
Blade Decay After 20 Seconds
Max Throw Speed Bonus of 33%
60 Knives with a max of 75
"Buffed" Trickster has:
6 Knives to Down
Blade Decay After 10 seconds
Max Throw Speed Bonus of 25%
44 Knives with a max of 56
That one extra knife to down is NOT worth the drawbacks at all.
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I hate to say it, but I kind of like old trickster better but my complaint is more so how you can use the power. Though, long range shots weren't that great, you could still use them to build stacks on distance survivor and then close in on them to top it off.
I think it's a net buff, but by how much, I'm not sure. I understand why they did it. -2 knives is huge, so they took away his ability to build and maintain laceration stacks with throw rate and laceration decay.
IMO, Base trickster is better, but his dependency on maps hasn't changed and will struggle on maps with lots of high tiles. On the flip side, favorable map generation (even on some average map generation) and the -2 stacks makes the 100 - 0 knife combo a lot easier to do.
It's like a give and take on extreme ends.
Not quite. On Trickster's best maps, the extra blade is almost irrelevant cause the Survivor was going down regardless it maybe just saves a few seconds. On Trickster's worst maps, the laceration decay is so bad there's no point in attempting his power anymore.
You're forgetting that Death Throes fully refills Trickster's ammo after each main event, and in quite a lot of cases, it's faster to quickly use main event and cancel it than to walk to a locker and refill.
Let alone that 60 knives with Death Throes only needs a 50% accuracy(44% accuracy if you had the +8 knives addon) to basically slug 2 people, use main event to slug the 3rd person and then hunt down the 4th, with essentially infinite uses every match. 44 knives still makes that scenario possible, but instead requires a 68% accuracy(57% with the +8 knives addon) to pull of the same thing, which still has essentially infinite use every match. Meaning you can start trying to mass slug again, and again, and again, and again, making it easier everytime because there is no way survivors will have time to pick each other up and fully heal.
You gotta take ALL addons into consideration, not just the addons you tend to play most.
You really shouldn't say Trickster and accurate in the same sentence. His spread is so horrible he only gets like 60% accuracy at point blank if the Survivor is spinning and zig-zagging like crazy
throwing speed is counter-intuitive change to less blades to down. so in the end, he became worse. Not to mention that now he has to reload..... every single time he downs a single person.
So in the end, they manage to.... nerf spirit to ground like survivor bias main asked for and not even make trickster average....
They didn't change the throw speed bonus though. It was buffed to 33% for the PTB and then changed back to 25% (which it has always been on live servers).
Trickster is everywhere, he suffers at map pressure and doesn't do so well during certain chases. He thrives at dead zones, but what killer doesn't?
TRICKSTER
Blade Inventory— 60 KnifesLaceration Damage— 7 Knifes + No Damage Speed BoostMain Event— 30 Knifes + No Activation TimerLaceration Decay— While repairing or healing taking 32 seconds to fully decay. Fully decays if healed to a higher health state, and decays by 50% through a basic attack.Anything not changed here is remains unaffected.
What do we get from this? A Trickster who will be able to stack laceration across the team. Only when they are meaningfully progressing the game, they lose laceration, but that comes at a cost of the killer finding you and finishing you off. You don't get a speed boost from taking damage nor do you lose laceration during a chase, survivors are expected to maintain distance or face the harsh price. Each knife becomes much more powerful, and main event is essentially a no man's land.
They nerfed Fizz Spin as well which was the second best addon and increased his throwing speed
But to use main event now you have to have more or less already reloaded since you can only throw 14 knives out of your 44 before its disabled.
Trickster has 0 spread and his aim is faster than a survivor's ability to zig-zag. Besides, again, 60% accuracy is more than enough if you have Death Throes and Boa as you only need a 57% accuracy.
I mean, you need to hit 30 for main event to be togglable, since 6 is 1 healthstate, that means you need to deal 5 healthstates to trigger main event. Since you now have 30 seconds time to activate it, that means you can cross most of the map after downing 2 survivors and injuring one, trigger Main Event at the last second if it's about to expire or trigger it as soon as you're within range of the last survivor and even if you miss everything, you'd be reloaded.
So yeah, Death Throes and Boa, together with Infectious Fright and Deerstalker is going to be quite useful on Trickster. You'd just need to be patient enough to not waste too many blades(or reload as soon as you have your first down with no IF trigger).
Have you played Trickster before? At Rank 1? Against Survivors that doesn't run in straight lines?
He is probably more similar to Plague than Huntress or Deathslinger. It's more spam/prediction than accuracy. He's not the most mechanically skilled Killer
Run the ripper brace. It doesn't help very much, but it can make him a bit less stressful to play. Gives a solid few extra seconds before laceration decay
I legit thought i was alone, these changes just don't feel as fun to me anymore...i can't describe it...i just don't like them and do worst with him than when i used melodious murder. Tbh im just glad im not the only one that feels this way.
Yes, I have, and post buff he's definitely much stronger, and yes, survivors still run in straight lines at rank 1. In quite a lot of scenario's it's either run as straight as possible to reach the next jungle gym, or curve enough for Trickster to actually gain distance while throwing knives. I have gotten 4k's before 2 gens are done, havent had that happen prior to the buff.
I've never said he was more fun to play or fun to play against.
"He's not the most mechanically skilled Killer" Au contraire, and it's because you are wrong about this statement: "He is probably more similar to Plague than Huntress or Deathslinger. It's more spam/prediction than accuracy."
After his buff, Trickster is more about accuracy than spam. Prior to his buff, he was more about spam than accuracy. The 2 knives being removed made spam Trickster a bit too strong in quite a lot of scenario's with addon combo's, so they had to up his accuracy to compensate.
Trickster is an entirely different killer after his changes. He's more like a better huntress than a weaker plague now.