Killer Punished for Chases Close to Hook

Raccoon

Although I like a lot of the potential changes, I feel like this is something that will be detrimental to leaving the hook.

Without knowing the numbers, this seems to provide less incentive to give chase, and more incentive to "finish what you start" if people are hook diving/the killer feels like camping. 

I mean, if increasing hook time near the hook was abusable, I'm sure this will be fine ;3

twistedmonkey

Certainly seem that way, it should only happen if a survivor is also not within 16m imo.

Tzeentchling9

It's only for an emblem, and who cares about those really, but the principal of the change is disconcerting. It's not like a camper was going to pip anyway, so why this change?

The_Fallen_Utopia

To be honest this won't stop camping  (which is what the change is meant to do) because killers usually don't want to 2 pip anyway.  Some will see more reason to camp so they don't get as high of a chaser Emblem. Bad decision on the devs part

Link

This is dumb especially for endgame when camping is mandatory, killers are gonna get punished for securing at least one kill when they'd otherwise lose all 4 survivors if they left.

George_Soros

@Raccoon wait what? What is this about?

The_Fallen_Utopia

@George_Soros apparently if you stay with 16 metres of a hook your chaser emblem will lose points over time. 

George_Soros

Yeah, thank you. I just noticed. Looks like a bad idea at first glance, but I'll read it more carefully.

Tsulan

Shouldn´t the survivor emblem suffer from running around the hook?
I mean... is the killer supposed to ignore survivors near the hook?

Orion

You'd think the devs would've learned this lesson by now, but apparently not. Punishing Killers for being near the hook is not going to work; it just incentivizes Survivors to hook rush and keep them there.

The_Fallen_Utopia

I don't think this change was thought through for some reason.. 

George_Soros

They say "over time" though. I wonder if it means after some time, or simply that Chaser points gradually decrease in proportion to the time spent next to occupied hook. If it's the latter, that's a terrible idea - you start losing emblem percentage as soon as someone is up on the hook.

Orion

@George_Soros said:
They say "over time" though. I wonder if it means after some time, or simply that Chaser points gradually decrease in proportion to the time spent next to occupied hook. If it's the latter, that's a terrible idea - you start losing emblem percentage as soon as someone is up on the hook.

"Over time" means the latter, but it's possible they didn't explain it properly. Either way, it makes no sense as it's just rewarding Survivors for hook rushing.

Vietfox

Tsulan said:

Shouldn´t the survivor emblem suffer from running around the hook?
I mean... is the killer supposed to ignore survivors near the hook?

@Tsulan
Yeah both. Killer should suffer the loss of points if there are no other survivors around, so do the survivors messing around the hook.

Raccoon

I'd like to note that I like almost all of the other changes, too, barring the lack of a DS rework. 

DocFabron

So now we DO have to go jerk it in a corner and let survivors get free unhooks?

What are we, the free rescue salesman?

The_Fallen_Utopia

Sure they can reduce the emblems for camping.. that won't stop the LF's in the basement though lol. 

ChesterTheMolester

Vietfox said:

Tsulan said:

Shouldn´t the survivor emblem suffer from running around the hook?
I mean... is the killer supposed to ignore survivors near the hook?

@Tsulan
Yeah both. Killer should suffer the loss of points if there are no other survivors around, so do the survivors messing around the hook.

Also increase the points given for fresh hooks to give less reasons to tunnel then its fine.

thesuicidefox

I'm willing to bet that the rate at which the emblem decays is much lower than the rate it increases during a chase. That means if you chase someone near the hook, you have a net gain albeit lower than a normal chase. But if you just stand by the hook and never chase anyone (the literal issue with camping) then you get punished. You probably won't drop from iri to silver from normal killer gameplay, but you might if you just stand near the hook and never leave until the guy dies.