Deep wounds is still abusable

Let's see. By running in a straight line after tanking a hit with borrowed time you gain loads of disance and on maps like lerrys it can really screw a killer over, when with the old dw you'd make half the distance and then have to mend


You can actually save deepp wounds against a legion so you can body block a ff hit and cause a stun and avoiding being tracked.


Due to the nerf to mending times it doesn't even help slow the game down that much.

Can killers abuse it? Nope, I don't think so. Well. Maybe save the best for last stacks but that's all I can think of atm.


If you wanna make dw unabusable then that's fine. But at least make it threatening and make sure there's absolutely nothing that can be abused, even niche cases

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  • DW is just another health state atm. For some reason.

  • I wish that borrowed time didn't use deep wounds. BT would be fine and less frustrating to deal with if it used the old BT health state.

  • The Deep Wound timer pauses when sprinting which is stupid. Keep it going so people must heal within 20 seconds or get downed.


    Fixed.

  • @Exerlin said:

    I wish that borrowed time didn't use deep wounds. BT would be fine and less frustrating to deal with if it used the old BT health state.

    Not really good design to just follow a Survivor so that he will be downed after a few seconds.

    However, running stopping the DW-Timer was not necessary... Except for the fact that the Devs did not think of an abusable interaction with Legion, which caused this.

  • And to think that it all could have been avoided if the game were better at detecting whether you're in a chase or not.

  • How tf do stbfl and deep wounds have anything to do with each other

  • @FJSJ_Lunar said:

    How tf do stbfl and deep wounds have anything to do with each other

    Trapper can actually get STBFL tokens when hitting survivors in the bear trap, so if he does it to a survivor affected with DW he can get 2 stacks from 1 trap

  • @Hoodied said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/941446#Comment_941446

    Trapper can actually get STBFL tokens when hitting survivors in the bear trap, so if he does it to a survivor affected with DW he can get 2 stacks from 1 trap

    That's such a stretch

  • "Saving" Deep Wounds to maybe stuff Feral Frenzy ? Thats your definition of abusable ?

    Well by all means, please stay injured forever so you can mildly annoy Legion once. I'm sure this is a sound plan. Enjoy running in place and not really doing anything else because you would bleed to death...

    Deep Wound is currently the best its been. What they need to do now is shorten the timer a bit and rework Frank's Mixtape and Stab Wound study, as thoses are 2 rare add-ons that do absolutly nothing.

    It woud also be nice if the pins effect where 60 seconds from the moment you finish mending but maybe thats asking a bit much.

  • @Decarcassor said:

    "Saving" Deep Wounds to maybe stuff Feral Frenzy ? Thats your definition of abusable ?

    Well by all means, please stay injured forever so you can mildly annoy Legion once. I'm sure this is a sound plan. Enjoy running in place and not really doing anything else because you would bleed to death...

    Deep Wound is currently the best its been. What they need to do now is shorten the timer a bit and rework Frank's Mixtape and Stab Wound study, as thoses are 2 rare add-ons that do absolutly nothing.

    It woud also be nice if the pins effect where 60 seconds from the moment you finish mending but maybe thats asking a bit much.

    I agree with that idea about the pins but ill explain what I mean by saving dw.

    You've been hit with either bt or ff, your in dw. Instead of having to mend you can just run to a survivor about to be hit and bodyblock for them when the legion is in ff, a stun is still a stun and could cause the legion to lose that chase for no other reason than they were using their power.

    It's niche as hell, but it's still using dw in an unintended way hence it's abusable.


    They already shortened the timer for deep wounds, and unless they got a debuff for getting rid of ff as basekit it'd be far more survivor sided than it already is.

    But have a great Christmas :)

  • Deep wounds is in a good spot rn. Legion is just broken as usual nothing to see there.

  • soooo how is it abusable?

  • DW should just be another health state at this point. Mabey make you louder and bleed more frequently, and take longer than mending to heal. (But works like any other heal, like being able to move around and run in the dying state, almost.)


    Seems the best thing, the timer is pointless, at least this would revert DW to something that slows the game down.

  • @EldritchElise87 said:

    DW should just be another health state at this point. Mabey make you louder and bleed more frequently, and take longer than mending to heal. (But works like any other heal, like being able to move around and run in the dying state, almost.)

    Seems the best thing, the timer is pointless, at least this would revert DW to something that slows the game down.

    DW does slow the game down...have you actually played the game before?

  • @Seltas0208 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/941553#Comment_941553

    I agree with that idea about the pins but ill explain what I mean by saving dw.

    You've been hit with either bt or ff, your in dw. Instead of having to mend you can just run to a survivor about to be hit and bodyblock for them when the legion is in ff, a stun is still a stun and could cause the legion to lose that chase for no other reason than they were using their power.

    It's niche as hell, but it's still using dw in an unintended way hence it's abusable.

    They already shortened the timer for deep wounds, and unless they got a debuff for getting rid of ff as basekit it'd be far more survivor sided than it already is.

    But have a great Christmas :)

    The only thing they shortened is the Mend action from 15 seconds to 12.

    Feral Frenzy last time I checked, inflicted Deep Wound with a 30 seconds timer. Borrowed Time lvl 3 and Styptic Agent give a 20 second Deep Wound.

    It should just be 20 seconds for everything. I hear the devs love consitency theses days. And even with a shorter timer Frank's Mixtape and Stab Wound Study would still be horribly useless add-ons.

  • @Waffleyumboy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/942241#Comment_942241

    DW does slow the game down...have you actually played the game before?

    Legion takes a 4 second stun to delay the game by 12 seconds.

  • @EldritchElise87 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/942260#Comment_942260

    Legion takes a 4 second stun to delay the game by 12 seconds.

    This is a DW convo not a Legion convo. DW increase will not fix Legion btw.

  • No legion needs a full rework, and DW is broken by the games own systems and inconsistencies.


    I might not be clear, i started drinking early. merry christmas,