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@fixblitzskin said:
I’m a killer main and have been forever but I decided to play some more survivor a while back since when June comes I want to get chased by spring trap without totally sucking. Some of the unfun stuff survivors got to deal with suck. Getting slugged at 5 gens with knock out, being the 1st one to get tunneled/camped, playing against nurse who brought a midwhich offering, solo q etc. I was playing killer today and went to a survivor I just beat stream on twitch I left it on for a little while I was reading something and their (they were a 4 man swf) next game was a singularity using otzdravas slugging build from his video and it was miserable to watch. They were so annoyed waiting to get bleedout but their next game after that was a scratch mirror myers game on midwhich which they enjoyed. As killer I never get denied fun even my worst games I don’t but survivors are almost gambling to hope the killer doesn’t make the game miserable for them. Anyway I respect the crap survivors have to go through without them there is no game afterall.
W killer
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@Vishlumbra said:
If this 2vs8 mode reflects the mentality you are going to be implementing to the game, you will fail.
This mode is the arcade, dumbed, limited version of the game that made you successful.
Really, what where you thinking when you buffed survivors to the point of having an unlimited amount of pallets, heals in 2 seconds, unlimited unbreakable?
If this is an indicator of what you trying to implement because of the incorrect claims that the game is killer sided, you will destroy everything that actually made the game a success.
Make a fun mode where the killer functions as a crippled monkey chasing a bunch of survivors like an npc. My god. Hopefully you learn from this that making survivors OP is not fun for anyone in the long run.
wahhhh wahhhhhh I want to 8k every match wahhhhh.
it’s a fun game mode that’s temporary. Get over yourself. Enjoy a fun game mode while it lasts and stop complaining about every little thing. So what survivors escape? God forbid a few escape right? You’re the only one that can have fun right? -
@Vishlumbra said:
After reading patch notes for 8.4, being a bit disappointed with the new killer and the nerfs and buffs for killers, figured I could suggest a few changes to implement, either this next patch or the future ones.
Cranking numbers can be effective, but, at the same time, feels like a missed opportunity to bring something fresh and cool.1- The Houndmaster. Perks are ok. Dog is super clunky. She is not on par with the quality of killers we have. It’s like, she provides no horror to the game, it’s a lady with a dog and her “power” is kinda a Deadslinger. Idk. Nothing to do I guess but could be cooler having an actual horror icon or a demon or something instead of this.
How about a demon that possesses survivors making them become terrible at the game? Failing skill checks, hell, maybe even granting the opportunity to appear as something else, give a terror radius to a survivor, idk.
2- The shape. Your “buff” is more like a nerf. The distance to gain stalk at a higher rate is way, way too far, considering most maps lay outs, loops, rooms, second floors and basically any LOS, it’s actually slower. I would suggest raising a bit the amount of stalk you get when close. Also, thinking out of the box, add a fourth degree of stalk that allows the killer to insta kill. Would make it more interesting, you can let survivors focus on gens and bet everything to the end or just pressure with tier 3 during the game.
3- Ghostface- Disable reveal by survivor on hook.
4- The Nightmare - Oh wow, hopefully you guys work on him as a full rework, cranking numbers won’t help that much. Give him a type of nightmare pallet that hurts, improve his teleport, maybe some type of ranged attack while in dreamworld?
5- The Onryo- Give some type of aura reveal to Sadako paired with condemns, something more reliable. She is stuck running decent perks to have a chance and having to neglect information perks. Her info add on is bad. Her lullaby is crap, make it non directional. Her power is easily countered with no penalty. How about helping her chase power? Simple, make her intermittent invisibility grow in power as condemn or gens are completed, her anti loop would become unique, like a mind game killer. Fix the bug of her invisibility. Injure a survivor when he gets full stacks, give some type of timer to deliver a tape, something. She has the worst iridescent add on in the game, improve it.
Dracula- Hellfire nerf was unnecessary, the only thing needed was a nerf to bat form.
Trapper- Allow him to start with at least 3 traps and add one more to the map.Spirit- Lower the volume of her moans, makes it imposible to track at times.
Pig- Lower a bit the amount of time it takes for the trap to go off, it’s a miracle if someone dies from it.
Grant players that reach 100 to purchase whatever add on they want freely and or give them a new cosmetic piece.
Finally, consider interactions and outcomes with the new perk of burden, how will it interact with “make your choice”? What happens with certain swf or competitive teams? How will it affect the game meta?Just some ideas.
Personal recommendations to your team:
Do not compromise depth for simplistic solutions.
Guide your updates by what is possible to achieve when playing at a good skill level, every player will get better. That’s the whole point and part of what made you successful.Do not give in to players who want an easier time, the game is supposed to be hard, surviving should be an accomplishment. People need a sense of achievement.
Learn from what you did this year with 2vs8. Dumbing down the game is not the answer, neither is turning the scale to survivors. Killer is the class that has more depth, don’t butcher it.
Impulse competitive DBD. You have all the right tools.
Monitor professional players to balance the state of the game. They provide great insight with what’s needed to win a match.
TLDR buff killers. Same old same old.
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So let’s take your logic or what killers are capable of then. Nurse…… she’s CAPABLE of 4k’ing every single game. So then nerf killers? No. You don’t balance something because of the POTENTIAL someone can do. There’s skill ceilings and why some people are better than others. Another statement from you that makes zero sense.
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@Vishlumbra said:
It’s because BH is giving survivors what they want. A mode that ensures killers function just as a dumb chasing npc so survivors can win every game and mock them. It’s the single most survivor mode ever created, that’s why queues are like this etc. Idk what they were thinking when they made those perks. At least is evident that killers won’t play if we keep going in this direction.
what are you talking about?? The killer queue times are long because more people want to play killer. Your statement made zero sense
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@MechWarrior3 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3841597#Comment_3841597
"lol you're just another killer main whining about how behavior needs to nerf survivors."
oh wow you know me so well! I am impressed. Except - I have never once made a post on the forums mentioning a nerf to Survivors. Not once.
I love all the assumptions you're making….truly though. Impressive.
I also never said she wasn't strong so read again. I am simply saying how many more nerfs is she gonna get until enough is enough? If she was THAT game breaking BHVR would have done something about it by now…
impressive how your backtracking now on what you’ve said. And the reason they haven’t done anything is because they favor killers. If they were unbiased then the escapes rates and kill rates would be equal. But somehow 60/40 split is unbiased. Impressive truly
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@funsumme said:
What I’m saying is that 2v8 is very popular of a game mode in the community and most people really want to let it stay forever.
I have made the idea that you should put 2v8 on a timed schedule like when it will begin. Let’s just say in the morning 6am to 10am, and the rest of time to 3pm to 9pm!
Behavior, you can even update this game mode anytime you want while it’s active in your game and add new rewards and tomes for it when ever your updating the game such as for The Houndmaster or other DLC’s
Just please the community will appreciate this game mode to the loving end!Sincerely, funsumme!
I'm finally escaping as survivor now. Something that I can never do in 1v4. And its actually fun to play survivor now. Not just the regular wait to get 4k'd by the killer. I can't wait to never play survivor again tho until this mode is back. I just can't stand losing all my games. Whenever I play 1v4 I ALWAYS LOSE. but now when I play 2v8 I finally have a chance to escape.
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this has got to be rage bait…..
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@DeBecker said:
Whats the difference?
bad ping=advantage for killers
that shouldn't even be a thing. bad ping shouldn't give you an advantage.
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@MechWarrior3 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3841575#Comment_3841575
Lets pretend she is an unbeatable god and hasnt been nerfed multiple times.
lol you're just another killer main whining about how behavior needs to nerf survivors. But yet won't even admit that nurse is the strongest character in the game. And she is a LITERAL game breaking design. She doesn't need to follow the basic physics of the game like EVERY other killer HAS to do.
please play against a good nurse player before speaking. matter of fact play survivor before speaking. you telling this forum that your pretending that she's a god is all I need to know of what skill level you are. There's no pretending. She is single handedly THE strongest killer in the game. There's no denying that FACT. She's LITERALLY THE REASON WHY PREDATOR HAD TO BE NERFED.
so don't sit there and say she's not strong, when in fact she's THE STRONGEST.
everyday that goes by I feel more and more ashamed to call myself a killer main when killer's like you exist that wont even admit that nurse needs a rework or a nerf or something because of how strong she is.
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@BlackRose89 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840098#Comment_3840098
No I will not and I will continue to complain. I have all the right to complain and you can't stop me :P
this is the problem with killers. They don’t play the WHOLE OTHER SIDE of the game and will NEVER UNDERSTAND how the other side even works or struggles with. And no you can’t complain. Because there’s ANOTHER. ROLE.
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@BlackRose89 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3840040#Comment_3840040
They have every right to complain…maybe they don't like playing Survivor and only want to play killer? I know that is how I feel. I hate playing Survivor in general and prefer Killer. The issue here is that 2v8 long queue times aren't affecting just the 2v8 mode but it affects the normal mode as well. If it was just 2v8 killer queues that were long then I and most likely others wouldn't complain as much bc we just simply don't have to play that mode and just play 1v4 but that's not how it is. No matter what mode we play we have to suffer through 15+min queue times.
then play survivor and stop complaining. And you can see how the other side is affected
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then don’t complain about killer queue times. There’s not enough survivors to go around for all the killers
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@joel84 said:
yo,
I hope this mode will never kill 1v4 and become permanent. That would be a disaster because the Q times are a problem. Since I'm not going to put myself through that again, I'm going to take a break (once the mode is live) until the spook is over because I don't like this arcade mode.
See you around
then play the other side lol
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have you tried the escapist perks?
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yo why is every one complaining? All I see is people complaining. This is supposed to be a fun game mode. Like guys this ain’t going to be the end of the world. I swear no one can just have fun anymore. Nerf this buff that. Just chill. Behavior could fart in the wind and killer mains will complain about something. Like guys you aren’t going to lose a championship game over here. And I don’t know about you other killer mains. But me and my killer duo have been getting 7k’s and 8k’s back to back to back. So maybe you guys aren’t as good as you think you are.
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@kit_mason said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/432531/we-want-2v8-to-be-permanent
No we do not. The mode makes killer queue insufferably long, even for 1v4.
that’s because there’s not enough survivors to go around for all of the killer mains. That’s why the blood point incentive is so high for survivors.
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I was just in a game where the killer openly admitted to using a vpn so he could win more games with high ping. Devs you need to do something
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@Cryopier said:
You can see their ping in the game now, just disconnect.
yeah just disconnect. Bros trolling
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@Chiky said:
Title. Bringing up the issue because it's ridiculous
yes and while we’re at it let bubba teleport around the map too. Oh and make the survivors start injured as well. That way the game can just be handed to me.
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yeah being 3cm tall… undetectable….. and having wall hacks isn’t overpowered. Chucky mains actually make me not want to be associated with them.
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@TimelessData said:
right, I’ve been playing this game for years and use to be a surv main thinking killer was too strong and whatnot. Playing the past year constantly as killer I can say survivors are beyond broken it’s actually a joke. Ik people gonna say skill issue and alla that but when you’re at high mmr and go against these types of survivors it’s an actual joke. I feel weak as any killer. It’s beyond difficult and too stressful. Gens need a fat nerf, hook times need a nerf , loops need a nerf and imo surv movement speed as a hole should be nerfed holding forward is so strong it’s actually a joke. Like I love this game but I’m actually losing the plot on how survivors are this busted and still not been nerfed. You can seriously tell the devs are more bias towards survivors. Playing a killer should be the power role but it’s not in anyway shape or form I feel weak and powerless. Survivor shack (my personal name for it) is broken asf it’s not even fair. 4% off hook should also be removed from the game as you’ve worked that hard to get the down for it to be taken by luck and bs. Hatch is just a pitty way out for surv yet another chance, while killers are getting nerfed on repeat with little buffs to compensate. What I’m trying to say is surv needs some serious looking at as playing killer at high level is barbaric and so unfair. I pray that the devs seriously look at survivors, loops and gems and nerf them, 2 gens off 1 chase is a joke especially when they spawn on a gen while you as a killler have to transverse the map to find someone then chase them then down them and then hook them = 2 gens gone. It’s just become an actual joke all these anti tunnel stuff for surv and nothing for killer. As a high level killer main people will understand you HAVE to tunnel to even get a draw if lucky a 3 man. It looks like I’m going back to a surv main as killer is far too hard for far too little reward and when I play surv I feel powerful and that’s the complete opposite to killer.
skill issue. I play high MMR all the time it’s no problem for me. In fact I believe killers need nerfs and I’m a killer main. Do you know how easy it is for me to tunnel someone out? Extremely easy. You just need to get better tbh
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@Ryuhi said:
Keep winning then. If its so easy, you are clearly not playing survivors of what your MMR should balance out to, so your matches should get harder as you continue winning. Even the best killer players sweat when playing survivors of their skill level.
Unless you meant that you never play killer and only tried it for a bit and found it easy to win when starting with near zero MMR and going against survivors with similarly low MMR (either due to being inexperienced or just losing that often.)
I'm not saying its not possible, but the level of exaggeration people often use makes it hard to actually discern how accurate anecdotes can be.
I have 1200 hours in this game and 1000 of them are on killer. So no my MMR isn’t low. It’s just really easy to 4k now a days
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check my post as well OP does that fall in line with what your experiencing as well?