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@Mandy said:
Some issues are always going to take longer than others to fix, animation seems to me like a pretty big undertaking to change as well. There's just only so much that can be done prior to the deadlines, some things are not possible to fix in a short period of time so these will be fixed at a later date.
This is like saying: GUI takes a long time to rework especially in Unreal Engine 4.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945045#Comment_1945045
Yeah these haters are just entitled survivors that want their cheating old 360s back and want to dev bash because it makes them look cool! They just keep parroting "it looks like they need to go to the bathroom!" because they're immature and unimaginative!
Imagine saying haters on a group of people that is just mostly talking about one subject, and then calling them immature. Behaviour-defenders here we go! 😌
The only one whos acting like a parrot is you, constantly parroting "Go devs go, make decissions people dont ask for"
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945045#Comment_1945045
Yeah these haters are just entitled survivors that want their cheating old 360s back and want to dev bash because it makes them look cool! They just keep parroting "it looks like they need to go to the bathroom!" because they're immature and unimaginative!
Wow your calling us immature, imagine using the word "haters" who are just talking mostly about one topic of the game, but alright continue being their white-knight and defending the best corporation who makes always makes the best decisions.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945045#Comment_1945045
Yeah these haters are just entitled survivors that want their cheating old 360s back and want to dev bash because it makes them look cool! They just keep parroting "it looks like they need to go to the bathroom!" because they're immature and unimaginative!
"Haters"
These "Haters" and you're saying we are childish? Who is using the word haters when you dont know anything about them? We are mostly just talking about one topic of the whole game.
Also dev bashing bruh ######### you talking bout?
We were mostly talking about the company, and we didnt name any individuals, it would be dev bashing if it werent true that they are incompetent. Plus bashing individuals is bannable here.
360's back
Your the only one who mentioned 360's twice in this chat, I think you need to recalculate.
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@lexihvh said:
If we all thought the same way you do, we would win lmao
"If bhvr doesn't change to olf goofy animations I'm quitting the game"
How much ya wanna bet 90%+ prefers the old animation system
They are just acting like they got their lollipops stolen.
239 people say the new animations are borked, and a minority says they arent, so that proves my quote:
@simbanono said:
I think the votes on the main comment and the first comments say enough, they are just throwing a temper tantrum because its gonna be changed anyway.
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@danielmaster87 said:
I agree with you wholeheartedly! People are out of their minds hating on these animations! I bet they just want their EZ zero-skill 360s to come back! People don't hate the animations! They hate the fact that they have to give the devs props this time, and they don't like it! So instead, they're gonna bash every little thing the devs do, even if it's actually a positive for the game! That's how I see it!
Couldnt you just say agree with you? Why does everyone need to blow this up like a nuke constantly? The way you word it sounds like they are gonna start a new world war, no one here has mentioned not being able to do 360's except for maybe one individual. Also quit using the word bashing, bashing is just the new word for critiqueing at this point.
@Taiga said:
I also really hope that they don’t plan to revert any of the animations. The old animations looked completely outdated. The hunchback has always bothered me because it just looks so stupid and unrealistic, everyone literally looked like Quasimodo.
Bet you wouldnt be here if the PTB and this main version wouldnt exist either.
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I think the votes on the main comment and the first comments say enough, they are just throwing a temper tantrum because its gonna be changed anyway.
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Oh and if those messages get approved there will be atleast 4 duplicate messages in here, with the same stuff.
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@DjangoTheGhostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945685#Comment_1945685
I kind of skipped through again because i couldn't wait to tell you that the only way thats attacking you....is if thats who you are
Why are you constantly saying your skipping over his opinion? Are you trying to incite anger or arguments? You're litarly just trying to shovel dirt on someone. Stop saying "Im skipping over this" just dont say anything if you dont care, you dont have to respond to everyone, do you see me saying: "Im skipping over your comment"?
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945624#Comment_1945624
Automatic approval will not be there when you had enough comments (I think it was like 100)
that is one way of PTB sure, but they have already shown even if they release something they are willing to still change it in later patches/bug fixes. And they have heard the complaints, and they are also directly asking for further community feedback on the issues.
Yeah thats whats so annoying and sad, the pure stubborness of behaviour, especially he-who-should-not-be-named, even if we had a normal CORRECT PTB they would change things anyway, its realy like a punch in the face for everyone I feel, not just for me. But even then what you are saying, even if people give them feedback if it doesnt hit the fan they wont change it. The complaints where mostly what worked, its like you have to back them into a corner to make them do changes otherwise your opinions will be void.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945586#Comment_1945586
But I don't think the animations are a mistake. I like them all. If BHVR listens to just me when a majority don't like the animations, that's on them, not me. I'm just stating my honest opinion.
Yes its good that your stating your opinion, its just irritating if you have people trying to be the "White-Knights of behaviour" "The knights in shiny armor" and defending them against opinions, I hope you keep sharing your opinions honestly even if we disagree, thats whats called Feedback.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945570#Comment_1945570
They already explained it themselves.
they can’t guarantee to get every change from ptb to release done. But they are working on it and thanks to the PTB they can start work sooner. They already said they will make further adjustments to animations and UI, also they are looking into the latent hits. And yes, they have clearly communicated that to the community..
overpriced cosmetics I agree with. But guess what. You don’t have to buy them. I certainly have never paid for any cosmetics, just once for the rift, which pays itself back.
I agree with you on the cosmetics that you dont have to buy them
But a PTB is supposed to have cycles, not PTB -> BAM main version.
Like PTB1 PTB2 -> Main, so that people have a chance to see if they changed anything at all, not just release it instantly thats more of a Showcase than a PTB: "Here look at what we did in advance and stuff it because we implement it anyway"
EDIT: Also this automatic approval request is annoying as hell, everytime I change my comment its waiting for approval.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945570#Comment_1945570
They already explained it themselves.
they can’t guarantee to get every change from ptb to release done. But they are working on it and thanks to the PTB they can start work sooner. They already said they will make further adjustments to animations and UI, also they are looking into the latent hits. And yes, they have clearly communicated that to the community..
overpriced cosmetics I agree with. But guess what. You don’t have to buy them. I certainly have never paid for any cosmetics, just once for the rift, which pays itself back.
I agree with that, you dont have to buy them, but how they run a ptb is not how a PTB works.
A PTB has release-cycles, take for example jellyfin, they work with release candidates (prereleases), basically the same idea.
you have RC1 RC2 RC3 meaning Release Candidate 1, etc
Release Candidates are there for people to check out and find bugs, people report the bugs or features they dislike which the devs need to act upon (especially bugs), they iron out those bugs and change features/enhancements, repeat
RC1 Released -> Bug reports and feedback -> Fixed -> RC2 Released -> Bug reports and feedback -> Fixed -> Done? Release as main version.
you repeat as many times as you need until the bugs become miniscule or no major features need change.
thats how a PTB cycle is supposed to go, this is more of a: Look at what we did and you can stuff it because we release it anyway.
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@DjangoTheGhostface said:
Oh man i lost track of what yall sayin.
At least we can all agree i was right all along
No one cares, you're just a troll and you piss people off by making clickbait-y titles. And still more than half of the people agree with me so we dont care about your opinion, because the change is already coming.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945556#Comment_1945556
Never said I was. Not sure why you're being rude. It was just my opinion. 🤷♂️
Your opinions have value too, by saying one thing you can make someone go in one direction or the other, thats how people made Behaviour put up that notice saying "We've heard you loud and clear. Our team is working to find some solutions to the feedback on the latest update, We're focusing on fixing bugs, issues with hitboxes and we are reviewing some elements of the changes in the HUD (UI) and the survivor movement."
People need to understand that their words have value attached to them, and not keep taking everything they do.
I already said like before: people like you can guide companies like them into being greedier or stop getting them to make mistakes.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945532#Comment_1945532
Calling me ‚hun‘ and ‚sweetheart‘ is just showing me more that you don’t have any arguments of your own. Keep on hating. And repeating what you heard your fav YouTuber said or what you are reading from those other haters.
constructive feedback is better than destructive.
and of course they want money. They are a company. But that doesn’t automatically mean they don’t care at all. And from what I have seen, the devs do care.
"and of course they want money. They are a company. But that doesn’t automatically mean they don’t care at all. And from what I have seen, the devs do care."
Oh is that so? So whats the PTB for then? Explain that situation too me.
Calling me ‚hun‘ and ‚sweetheart‘ is just showing me more that you don’t have any arguments of your own. Keep on hating. And repeating what you heard your fav YouTuber said or what you are reading from those other haters.
Arguments are arguments, facts are facts.
Fact: Behaviour didnt listen to feedback from the ptb and stood stubborn.
Fact: The GUI was changeable easily but they lied about it
Fact: Overpriced cosmetics are overpriced
Fact: The company isnt transparant at all, sometimes changing perks without any notice until release.
Fact: The company just likes to "wing it" regarding what needs to change, wasting valuable resources.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945360#Comment_1945360
I don't think they look like that. In fact I think it's rather childish to think that. Them placing their hand over their stomach (which was the same as before by the way) and running at a different angle with more steps and an occasional trip does not at all look like they need to use the restroom. No it's not perfect but I never once thought a silly thing like that.
I think one person pulled that description out of a hat and everyone stuck with it, just to agree with them. Again it's not a perfect animation. But I never once thought when I was running injured. Oh God my survivor looks like she's about to crap her pants.
Oh god sir, have we offended you? By thinking like the rest? you seem agitated that some people came to the same conclussion! Did 2021 also ban like-minded people now? How dare these "children" think an animation looks like something this blasphemous! Like its almost too childish too talk about!
Seriously get off your high horses, your not any better than the rest of us in this discussion, too me it looks like they need to get to a loo at an instant.
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"Yeah sure, the guys that worked on the animations would have instead worked on the DS change XD"
Time and money sweetheart, the guys arent the only one that make it happen.
"i have seen you using those outdated false arguments a lot. They only want our moneyz and all."
Boy if only you werent blind to the amount of DLC and ways to monitize the game, battlepasses (rift), auric cells, DLC's. But alright when your right your right. I dont even know how you came up with "They only want our moneyz" you realy think they care for us? The only changes happen when there's a major problem "When ######### hits the fan behaviour has a plan".
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"have seen you using those outdated false arguments a lot. They only want our moneyz and all."
Its a company, they want money, they get money from customers who spend a fuckton on cosmetics and dlc's, sometimes they use "Whales", and other synical garbage, sometimes they abuse FOMO, making you feel like your gonna miss out on something special. Idk if you noticed hun but you dont know half of the garbage companies do to milk you dry of your money, have you noticed how they are trying to make Charms replace cosmetics last halloween events? Thats because they know that charms mean jack-#########, and then on top of that give exclusive deals on cosmetics that are only available for halloween? Remember the thing I said about fomo? You can call it outdated false arguments or "fake-news" but its prety much real, and still happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRlWYKXlLAY ( a video representing how to catch "Whales")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM4Dx33p57MSkip the second vid to around 1:17
Yeah sure, the guys that worked on the animations would have instead worked on the DS change XD
Fine sweetheart, I ment resources and money, but alright, your right again.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945418#Comment_1945418
They already said they take feedback of the community in consideration. (I also gave appropriate feedback in the official thread for this.. and did not just praise them)
the new animations may not be perfect now, but neither were the old ones really. But the new ones are probably on a better technical level to actually improve upon and don’t drag old problems with them.
I wish we could hold a poll and see how many people thought the old animations were a major problem and made the game so unplayable. Other stuff like DS and balancing couldve happened this patch instead of something useless what nobody asked for. What technical problems could animations cause? Only if they were poorly implemented in spaghetti code can they cause bugs for other components.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945360#Comment_1945360
Have you considered everyone says it because it’s so funny and Meme-y, and not because it’s actually true?
Especially on the internet you cant say you're wrong because that makes you look weak, sarcasm. if thats the first thing people think off by seeing the animation that should be a clear indicator that the animation doesnt look right.
@DwightFairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945023#Comment_1945023
these hemorrhaging cuts give me indigestion
🤣
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But alright, dont listen to me, but dont complain when they implement something you dont like yourself and them not listening to you in the future because of your "white-knight" attitude now, not a lot of people like this change except for some people that blow it up with clickbait titles.
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You're concerned about the games aesthetics? There was nothing wrong with the first animations except for some bugs? This game has been failing upwards for the last 3 months and you still believe that the first direction they took was the best direction? Implementing 2 things nobody cared about at all? Also if you are refering to me as "Simpabono" you should take a look at yourself, your promoting changes that nobody asked for, enabling their behaviour of doing stuff which everyone dislikes. If you are concerned about the direction of the games aesthetics at this very moment I believe you are actually promoting them not listening to critiques and making the game worse, in fact you right now have raised the bar, you are acting like them while at the same time being a customer yourself.
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They only care about money.
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@DjangoTheGhostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945122#Comment_1945122
Ok kind of skimmed over this because its still not what im talking about. If i started dressing in a suit and randomly attacking people on the street it wouldn't mean i don't need to wear a suit it means i need to stop attacking people. You apparently have no issues with the movement just that you aren't doing good in games
Your not talking, your attacking people with valid critiques, and if you can overreact in your title so can I
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@DjangoTheGhostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945119#Comment_1945119
Boy YOU the one angry at the changes not me did you forget 😂
You also the only one mad, even the devs aren't mad they dgaf they got a bag. Like seriously how did anything i say about the GAME and HORROR make YOU mad. YOU aint even a part of the conversation homie you good chill out lol
Im saying you're acting like a white knight for changes that nobody asked for.
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Also you saying
"Also there's a reason i never said i wanted the animations to be realistic, i realize you don't actually care and only assumed thats what i wanted because i dislike the goofy glitchy animations of old. And im not really sure how to explain to you why but horror movies and games are the MOST unrealistic genre. How can something so fake scare so many people? Its because its about the VIBE the aesthetics create. Evil dead 2 is comedy drenched in absurdity,its in no way realistic. Its still one of the greatest horror movies of all time."
Is quite funny, because it basically means that the old movement wouldve been good if the bugs were fixed.
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This is the second time you created a complaint about the old animations after the PTB, none before that, basically meaning you're just here to make people angry and acting as bait, if there was no new update for the animations you wouldnt have created these 2 threads, you are just here to devide more people, also no one asked for survivor locomotion changes because there was nothing wrong with them except for a few bugs, so if you are here telling me that you wanted changes to the locomotion, you shouldve asked for them before the PTB, its just pure coincedence that behaviour was so stubborn and deciding what we should like that they implemented them.
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All im saying is that the old animations look way better than the new animations
Also you saying: "Also there's a reason i never said i wanted the animations to be realistic, i realize you don't actually care and only assumed thats what i wanted because i dislike the goofy glitchy animations of old. And im not really sure how to explain to you why but horror movies and games are the MOST unrealistic genre. How can something so fake scare so many people? Its because its about the VIBE the aesthetics create. Evil dead 2 is comedy drenched in absurdity,its in no way realistic. Its still one of the greatest horror movies of all time."
Basically means you actually shouldnt have cared that much about the old animations and that only the bugs of them shouldve been fixed, and also darling, if this update was released without the new animations, we wouldve never seen you in the forum complaining about the old animations, your just here to piss off people that are complaining, because this is the second time you've created a fuss about the old animations after the PTB, and you have no other discussions before that about such thing.
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@jester20k said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945044#Comment_1945044
Yeah they look they need to find somewhere to puke lol
Actually a good edition for the plague.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945063#Comment_1945063
I get it. It’s oh so funny to say that. But that doesn’t make it really real you know? It doesn’t look like that at all.
not saying they look realistic as in really injured btw.
Fine alright alright they look like they are in the middle of having a heart attack because of the angle and position of the hand / need to vomit.
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Also thanks for proving me right then, because indeed they are not realistic, while its totally the intention of the developers to make it look realistic.
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@DjangoTheGhostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945038#Comment_1945038
I hit the nail on the head huh lol. Yeah im pretty good at that check out this.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945025#Comment_1945025
So you're saying, and it is you not me, that you want the animations to be realistic? And that's why you don't like the new animations because they're not realistic. So then you must really hate the own animations and want them to be changed right? Because They're even less realistic. And even if you're blind and say they aren't its still clear they need to be changed into something else right? Because they're not realistic.
Also there's a reason i never said i wanted the animations to be realistic, i realize you don't actually care and only assumed thats what i wanted because i dislike the goofy glitchy animations of old. And im not really sure how to explain to you why but horror movies and games are the MOST unrealistic genre. How can something so fake scare so many people? Its because its about the VIBE the aesthetics create. Evil dead 2 is comedy drenched in absurdity,its in no way realistic. Its still one of the greatest horror movies of all time.
What im trying to say is go watch Evil dead 2.
Sorry but if you dont know what you are talking about you should first find some evidence.
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https://youtu.be/Q75GtKoQ1JQ?t=129@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945044#Comment_1945044
It doesn’t look like that at all though. Maybe in your head? But the way you are acting here towards OP tells a lot about you.
Take a good look without the sound and tell me what it looks like
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945023#Comment_1945023
As if the old injured animation looked so much more realistic, especially according the way they get hurt.
Well atleast in the old animations you were actually acting injured and not like your trying to find your way to the bathroom at lightning speed.
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Oh and the last thing: if there werent any new animations you wouldnt be in the forums.
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Oh also reenact their animations irl and then come back to this forum post again, if you still have your spine in one place after that
EDIT: Also your head doesnt move at 5 fps up and down irl.
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Imagine looking at the new animations which look like they had a stick up their ass and not thinking that you should quit.
Also no one who gets hit by a blade will hold their stomach like they just ate something bad.
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also someone should reenact them irl and see the comparison of how weird it looks
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They look like they ate something bad and are about to throw up, why not make some scratch mark from the knife on their backs when they get hit.
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@Mandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1938701#Comment_1938701
Pretty much this.
We also communicated in advance about the UI etc in our Q&A Stream where we explained that because console doesn't get a PTB we wanted feedback from that section of the Community, not just the small amount of players that played on the PTB.
We've confirmed that we're going through all the feedback that we've received since release of this patch on all platforms, and will address these in upcoming patches.
Thats the lowest point of the barrel, good job, thats even more embarrasing.
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Did I say that toxicity is a good thing? No? Did I say that everyones always toxic? Yes, and if you know a game is full of toxic competetive people dont play it. Theres a reason why toxicity only happens in online competetive games, if you cant handle toxicity dont play competetive games, because toxicity wont ever go away. Toxic people will always try to be toxic, you can turn off the chat, but that wont prevent people from being toxic in game.
So yes, poor behaviour will always be a regulart part of this game, especially if BHVR keeps inducing the split of survivors and killers.
Competetiveness is the leading cause of toxicity.
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@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1943515#Comment_1943515
That’s terrible, childish advice.
Not childish advice, its litarly the age rating for this game + everyones always ultra toxic ingame so its not everyones cup of tea.
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Game is for people above 18+ if you cant handle bullying you need to stop playing the game.
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Im making a new DBD discord, the only problem is that I dont have a bot yet, im currently working on one, but it might take a week, ive made servers before and the base is already there, I still need a couple of mods who DO NOT CENSOR people for critiques. Ill let you know when I am ready to make it public.
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The more people post this the more of a shitstorm this becomes
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Dont worry you will get ######### charms.