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@Celebrimbor said:
Yes but it is a cosmetic not his base kit. For the new killer because it is his base kit thats why people dont like it. If it was like clown's case it would be fine.
Cherry picking. It doesn't count cause they are skins is a poor excuse. You still see them all the time, especially neon survivors. The only Deathslinger I played against recently had the bull hoodie on. He's still a man with a harpoon gun like how this guy is the man with a baseball bat sprinting at me throwing knives.
@CornHub said:
I don't like any of the silly or bright neon outfits they add. His looks just don't fit the game imo.
The neon outfits are in the game. His outfit fits in with those. He'll probably have a more dull outfit in cosmetics anyways.
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This game literally has a entire cast of serial killers. Freddy is a CHILD #########. I have trouble seeing how this new character is anything new and it never mentions him taking sexual thrill in his killings.
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Horror movies have included normal or good looking people who are actually nuts and murder people. And you are ignoring we already have less flashy examples.
Legion - 4 teens wearing hoodies and masks. They edgy. They kill a guy. The end.
Pig - Not even the main antagonist or most powerful/smartest of the movie franchise. Literally just a drug addict following orders till she screws up and does stuff on her own and dies. OH BUT SHE WEARS A PIG MASK. Okay.
Ghost Face - The original Ghost Face duo was the class clown and the good looking boyfriend of the final girl. The whole serious focused on how anyone could be a horror killer.
Deathslinger - Cowboy.
Myers and Trapper are also men with masks on if you simplify them.
Clown is fat and wears make up?
Also people complained about literally every Killer. It's not new for people to cry. Twins had people complain she looked dumb and Victor being kicked was child abuse. Blight was our first big lore build up drop and most were disappointed the guy runs into things fast. Deathslinger was argued to not fit into the game alongside his map. Clown was viewed as a disappointing discount It.
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@indieeden7 said:
It isn't that bad, "The Ghostface" doesn't ghostface people, "The Demogorgon" doesn't demogorgon people, "The Hag" doesn't hag people, etc.
Yep.
Clown barely does Clown things. No balloons, water flower, juggling, or anything. He throws fart clouds. The Gas Passer!
Hag isn't even old. She is some youngster. She draws triangles in the mud. Mud Drawer!
Nurse doesn't even heal people. She sucks at her job. The Teleporter.
Cannibal isn't snacking on Dwight. He's The Gardener!
Spirit doesn't even float or go through stuff. Heck she is fully visible to. The Nurse is better at being The Spirit than she is. Let's call her The Smurfette.
He actually fits the title better than most when you realize Trickster is him performing tricks.. not him tricking you into smacking Nea with your toolbox. Gunslinger is pretty spot on though.
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He's amazing and I adore the guy. He's something fresh and exciting, I really don't think I could get too excited for another body horror killers after we got several in a row or another dull clothed person wearing a mask. He has more personality and psycho vibes than the entire Killer cast.
Most are grasping at straws cause he isn't their dream addition to the roster. Guess what? Many love him as well. Be happy for that and wait for the next Killer. I had 0 interest in Blight. Doesn't mean I tried to get him changed and/or removed cause he isn't what I liked.
@JackFrostMan said:
I just don't like his design all that much. The designs I really like are the ones that just look, well, I guess messed up? I get that his lore is pretty ######### up but still.
Your Legion avatar makes me question your statement.
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Hmm, I read this thread and thought it sounded like a good idea. Then I faced one running it... and it can make the downs go super fast. I'd say hold off on it and see how he does as people learn him on both sides before doing so.
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I've gave my body and soul to Tricksters who got rushed.
I've also suicided against some playing their P3 Killer mains on the test servers.
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Love him. His lore is great. His power is fun to use. His looks are amazing. His personality is amazing. His animations for the most part are incredible! He's just amazing.
Some things i've noticed and liked is sometimes when he hooks a Survivor, he hums a little tune that almost sounds like "I'm gonna get you." Since English isn't his native language, I'm probably wrong... but I loved the sound of it. His laughs and quick little responses are also incredible. He has a personality compared to most Killers, and it's refreshing to have a Killer feel more alive.
I've seen some bash his run, but I love it. He's actually running! Most Killers walk like they got a stick sideways up their cheeks. It's cool to have a Killer actually run after you similar to GF.
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These stretches are laughable sad. You don't like this Killer, move on! I wasn't big on Blight or Spirit for different reasons, but I accept they exist for others to enjoy. I like this new guy cause he stands out and hits a theme as hard as Oni does. He's the psychological and unhinged side of horror where the handsome dude is actually some sort of mentally sick person bent on putting on a performance of death and thrills. He knocks it out of the park with literally everything. The sound, music, looks, and animations is all of a show stopping performer bent on homicidal practices.
Also remember we already got Amanda and Ghost Face who were good looking people who played good guys but were homicidal maniacs. So why you ain't mad at them? Cause they got ugly clothes on? This guy is a performer and craves attention, he isn't dressing in rags.
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Love him. He's new and fresh. While the Twins excited me cause of the little guy gameplay (and kicking him), this guy excites me cause he's fresh and exciting. It's not just another body horror killer with sad/tragic past. It's unhinged and psychological type of horror which isn't highly represented in this game.
I also like that the new Survivor is pretty bad herself in the lore. She figured things out and didn't turn him in cause of her career. She deserved to die in his performance but instead was "saved" by the fog.
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I love him so far. He's a psychological and unhinged performance themed killer instead of the usual body horror killer with sad past and muddy colors trope the game has done to death at this point. Something fresh is just exciting to me. And to the people crying sexy killers don't exist in horror... you're just straight up wrong. There's plenty of good looking killers in horror movies. Even the Scream franchise had the handsome boyfriend as the killer. They're not always abominations.
The new Survivor is also one of the few Survivors to get straight up unredeemable lore. She figured out he was the serial killer and hid it cause of her career. She's nuts to!
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Nothing confirmed. People got hyped and upset over nothing.
We did get a super flamboyant male killer which is something fun and new. Who he bangs on his down time isn't told though.
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I mostly only play Solo as Survivor, and the recent three times I tried to pick the game back up in Red Ranks... I died almost every match with them being 4K matches. I went back to Killer and got 3Ks sparing the last guy also at Red Ranks. It's interesting to see how conflicting the hive mentality is on the forums compared to my personal experience.
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@Dabihwow said:
Not to sound homophobic but what's up with Lgbt and Horror? Every time I'm looking around in horror and in the forums I tend to hear, and see a lot of people saying they are Lgbt, or other a lot, and it just mind boggles me to see a lot of this. Not that I have a problem, but I'm just curious, what is the connection or reason that I'm not seeing?
Not sure what it is about this genre, but it really does have a strong rainbow fanbase. And for some reason, this fanbase is also pretty thirsty. (both straight and not so straight sides)
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I hadn't played in a bit and one of my first matches was dying on first hook after everyone else had been hooked twice/rescued. To be fair, I let the entity stab me during 2nd phase as they finally did come over to rescue me... and they brought the killer with them. And they didn't even get anything done while I was hooked!!!
Sadly I think he was going to spare me based on how he acted.
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@Kaethela said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1955188#Comment_1955188
Hello I am a lesbian that adores Feng.
@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1955186#Comment_1955186
Right because there probably aren't any lesbians that adore Feng lol
Not that lesbians could love her, but it's the very safe route that would be geared more towards making the straight guys who would get upset about a gay male character happy cause now they can think about having Kate and Feng hook up. Many gaming industries have taken to making gay females over gay males cause they are received better by the ones who dislike homosexuality. We really should get both a male and female though to be honest.
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@Kaethela said:
I'm going to guess Feng personally. She's got a lot of queer energy.
Making the cute Asian gamer girl be the rainbow member would be for the straight guys more than anyone else...
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@bjorksnas said:
Thats a hot take the devs doing what they want to the archives suddenly mean they are reworking the backstory of a character to add that to the game
My thoughts they just were already on a roll with the other characters and wanted to keep going with them and just kinda got on a roll and jake got left behind and instead one of the next two survivors will have being LGBTQ in some way as part of there lore but not be their main and only character trait
They already did the others, so it wouldn't be only Jake getting his story tweaked some and expanded upon. Every original and free Survivor and Killer have gotten their expansion. Jake hasn't, so it's just a spit ball theory the reveal could be him.
@ProfoundEnding said:
I think it's Nea personally. But if it HAS to be a character that hasn't gotten an archive yet, I'd suggest Adam.
I'd rather the super ugly girl people joke is the entity is not revealed to be the lesbian. That's very... very loaded. lol
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I went from Hag to Pig to Oni to Ghost Face to Twins. I played a decent amount of Trapper and Wraith at times through out all my playtime though, not sure where I'd place them. Hag is too easy for me to 4K now and Pig died to GF for me.
For Survivor I play quite a bit of Dwight, Jake, and Quentin. But I also love David, Felix, Adam, and Jeff.
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Survivors playing in duos or higher will likely just fuss to each other and move on. Killers are solo, so they come here to fuss.
That's it. It really is. It's why many Survivor who dare venture into the unfriendly and unwelcoming forums are solo players as well as the forums could be their place to fuss as well... but they get savagely attacked by the usual Legion of salty killer mains. I play both sides, but the forums at times makes me disgusted with the Killer player base. Actually playing the game usually leaves me grossed out by both sides though...
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Too late, several characters already had their sexualities stated like David, Nurse, and Wraith.
I'm thinking Jake could be our rainbow man. Him being into guys could play a part in him splitting off from his traditional and controlling family to run off on his own. It fits perfectly.
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879294#Comment_1879294
No, but when you are required, in a good game, to get 2k's for a pip, then I do need 2k's. The majority of the time it's 1k and de pip because they are playing well. The second I switch to a meta killer like nurse I get 3k's without using meta perks, and that's because if I play in a not fun way I get pips. If those survivors want to sweat, and I have to endure keys and other advantages a survivor has ( I refuse to lobby dodge swf or keys or excess items even though I don't have Franklins) then surely me and my none meta build can use a strat that allows me to safely pip. If I have to play meta, then I will. Especially with this ranked rewards coming through. I'm learning nurse rn and it's rather fun to actually have some control over the game. I'll slug with thanat,nurses,sloppy, and one other perk (maybe deerstalker or lightborn because I hate flashlight that much) . Now I'll have incentive to actually try rather than not care and give some red ranked sweats their own medicine. If I have to endure this then so should they
So you're a sweaty nurse slugging in matches cause there is like 1/10 matches where you might need to sweat that hard? So you ruin 9 other matches. Good work.
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879269#Comment_1879269
I'll deal with these on a point by point basis:
1) "you can relax your charade that it's hard and impossible to play", I'm sorry, but if I'm not trying and playing for fun it's usually a 1-2k and if I get more it's because the survivors royally screwed up. I never said it was impossible, I'm just saying that if I don't know what I'm going into I will slug because it's an effective strategy that I need against good players. If you don't try as killer then it is difficult.
2)"I play off meta and do fine because most my matches aren't sweaty swf". I never brought swf into this but a good set of survivors, with or without coms, can destroy a fairly competent killer. Just because you do fine, at the seeming modicum of skill you are presenting yourself at then you may not need to slug. I'm a green rank killer where every game I have at least 1 red rank. I'm not the best player, so I and other not extremely well versed killers who want to play have to slug. You may have played a lot more than me and so are well equipped for this, but I'm thrown into games with survivors way above my class and this is the only strat aside from playing nurse or deathslinger that has yielded any results.
3) "it's typically as survivor that I get tilted by all the sweaty killers"- then maybe you aren't meeting survivors of your skill level on killer a lot of the time. Maybe you get put against purple and green ranks as a red rank and it's an absolute slaughter, or even some red ranks aren't great enough to challenge you. But as someone who's played this game for about 2 months and hit top of green ranks almost in purple, I get put with plenty above my skill rankings. It's all well and good you get more frustrated at sweaty killers, but that doesn't change the fact that sweaty survivors make up the majority of red ranks, and so when I'm constantly placed against them I too have to sweat, often using less fun tactics and getting more bp and pips. Also do you play more survivor or more killer? This may too influence which annoys you more.
I played before Huntress was even a thing. Hag had stuns on her teleports. Exhaustion recovered while running. Haddonfield didn't have the dumb looking doors to the rooftops as they were all windows. DS could be used as at any time. BNP was obnoxious since it instantly did gens. Things have only gotten easier for me playing Killer by miles. I get burnt out and switch to Survivor and end up getting sweaty tunneling and camping killers who are likely the same ones who go on here and cry whenever a Killer nerf happens or demand Survivor nerfs cause they didn't 4K.
"I'm sorry, but if I'm not trying and playing for fun it's usually a 1-2k"
Bruh, the game isn't meant to be 4K balanced.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879269#Comment_1879269
you said it yourself, you're not playing against good teams. i'm in rank 1, same as you, and very often i am matched with at least 2 duos with at least 2 meta perks, most of the time decisive and dead hard. if you played against them you would understand why tryhard killers are the way they are
Oh I see meta a decent amount and probably plenty of duos. UB and DS rarely mean much to me since I actively avoid tunneling or camping people out. Very rare I'll fall for the "abuse" side of it as usually they got a partner nearby in case something goes wrong to switch aggro onto anyways.
Seeing as Killers can actually see there is no DS in play and actively abuse the nonmeta running Survivors speaks volumes.
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Probably Wake Up, been a few close calls at the gate with that perk. I don't run it anymore since even getting to end game is already nice. I rather run stuff for before then especially if the killer is sweaty and intent on tunneling everyone out ASAP. Then I may as well try to have fun in the little bit of actual game play I get before getting slugged, hooked, and camped out.
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@ilovedbd123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1879220#Comment_1879220
Yes of course because whilst you may not be in the majority, the majority of red ranks are sweaty survivors so us killers need to slug and sweat to help us win. you saying this means that you don't truly get how bad it is for killers rn, if we don't sweat we get harassed in the end game chat by 70% of the games, and if we do we get flamed because we did a non fun strat. If you want the games to be fun, get all those sweats in red ranks to calm down as we don't know your rank going into the game, so we can only play our best assuming your decent players. However if the survivor is clearly not that great and they aren't repeatedly coming in for flashlight saves I tend to hook and leave them to be let off because I feel bad.
I play both sides at red ranks. You can relax on your charade that it's so hard and impossible. I play off meta killers and do fine cause most matches aren't the sweaty swf groups. I do get them here and there and they do suck to go against. But it's typically as Survivor I get tilted by all the sweaty killers making sure the game is as boring as they can make it.
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Yep, it's boring and not needed in early game. Any killer who relies on slugging early on needs to to take a long shower to wash off some of the sweat. Hopped on Survivor today and it's a bunch of BM'ing sweaty killers. Like the blood hunt is going on and obviously that Nea is a new player thrown into a high rank match, you don't need to 4 man slug and make the game as boring as it possibly can be. Also there seems to be no such thing as chill Spriits or Huntresses. They always smell a mile away.
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The inbetween
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@Mushwin said:
Okay Ghost face is NOT included given i said he isn't s bhvr creation, clown well look at his lore shall we: The clown, entererd this world but his mother did not survive, already there is something there. It brought a right between him and his dad, meaning his dad blamed Kenneth for it, no evil here. His dad was an alcoholic who gained no attention from his dad and began excelling in things are school and took many an interest, so no evil. Legion well yes, Ghost face bhvr never did such.
The man behind the mask for this Ghostface is their creation though
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Clown, Legion, and Ghostface are pretty straight forward evil. Trapper really isn't that great either seeing as one of his outfits mentioned him doing cruel pranks in the caverns to injure workers.
The ladies do get massive sob stories though minus Legion. But even then, people like to dump all the blame on Frank.
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I'd take Claudettes overs Nancys and Cheryls any day. Those two are the true vermin.
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King Boo, his M1 is a lick while his power is the ability is to traverse through walls and briefly possess survivors. The Survivor is Luigi and he always has a flashlight. Downside is he cries out for Mario every little bit.
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As long as bad and salty killers go around using tunneling and camping strategies, you can't really nerf these perks as they are the only combatant for this toxic behavior. I don't run DS or UB, so I just end up dying if some scummy killer decides to tunnel me out. 200% faster if someone rescues me without BT.
DS timer going down faster when working on a gen, gate, or totem is the only nerf on here I could agree with personally. Another person being hooked is incorrect. It'd just reward camping and tunneling since you can just down the unhooker, then the rescued one, and then hook them in that order.
Unbreakable doesn't need nerfed. BT doesn't need nerfed. We'll Make It doesn't need nerfed. IW needs a bug fix on the footsteps, but it doesn't need nerfed.
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A sad small violin cause his game failed.
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I hate Leatherface and run SB quite a bit solely cause of him. Doing a gen in a dead zone? Killer is Bubba? You're match might be over right there as he revs his saw at your hook and smacks you around. I don't think there is any changes they could do to him that wouldn't destroy him though.
Freddy, Leatherface, Spirit, Plague, and Doc. My personal "eww" list.
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Just as there are many bad Survivors who crouch walk the corners of the maps and wait for the hatch cause they lack skill... there is the killers who lack skill and rely on camping and tunneling cause they suck at the game as well.
I could 4K with Wraith with my only gen perk being Overcharge at Red Ranks. But you can't help salty, bad players on either side. They solely play to be miserable and make others miserable.
Just move on and hope the next match has better humans playing and not salty trolls.
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Any sweaty killer will likely refuse to kill the 3rd off till they know where it is anyways. (or trenched in sweat ones will refuse to even kill the 3rd till they have the 4th downed as well)
So my advice is just run around like a idiot and prepare to get lucky or die if the killer was really trying. You could camp a exit gate for when they close the hatch, but that's a losing gamble as once they find you... it's over. And many maps or killers can guard both gates with ease. But then again if they close it, your really only good chance of escaping would be sitting at it.
As Killer? Unless you killed everyone off with no gens being powered... you legit can bring the game to a crawl and refuse to kill people till you know where it is.
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Egh. Other day I faced a Trapper who was pure trash. Face camped his only hook with only 1 gen left. Downed me with NOED saving the slugged Meg (who tried to unhook/got pulled at end) and still loss me as he tried chasing Meg while carrying me then realized he goofed and dropped me to guard my slug. But still got greedy and I managed to crawl out. Pathetic. But I figured he was a poor low rank killer and felt a bit bad for him and would of likely let him have his way with me if he hadn't face camped. Nope. Red Rank.
Had a similar game with a Pyramid Head who also resorted to insidious camping a David which netted him another down. Now some may say just do gens and escape, but you may as well try to save and out play the other side in these cases to actually get a fun match... not a M1 simulator.
I've been stomped by a low rank and stomped red ranks. It really means little. And if either side plays rude, they can't play the victim card. If you camped, slugged, nodded your head, and beat people on the hook... you really can't get mad if they gen rushed, light clicked, teabagged, or pointed at you.
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@OldHunterLight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1867695#Comment_1867695
Mini ghostface is just double crouching speedy addons, perks are your choice, you basically crouch the whole game and just play like that.
And I found it funny when I played against it a while ago, just imagine a crouching ghostface following you.
Just feels like the scary movie ghostface instead of the scream one.
Thanks for explaining what it is. Not sure how much I'd enjoy facing it myself, but I also run Spine Chill. Usually I enjoy my matches vs him and often die cause I want to goof off with him. I was doing Head On plays tonight and some killers seemed to really get pissed with it. One match the Killer had Iron Maiden and I played in the lockers often. She had 0 chill, even when others came and joined my screaming locker hopping antics. People are kill joys.
Ghostface was one that I mained for awhile. Whoever I spared typically would get in teabagging parties with me. If I spared a whole team or had a whole team stomp me but goof off in the end... those were actually a little special having 4 people teabagging with you in first person. Kind of intimidating since they can REALLY get in your face.
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@RamblinRango said:
Actually it's kind of growing on me since I started running Open Handed, Bond and Kindred. You just see what's happening all the time
That's also a curse. Watching Nea crouch walk in the far corner like the Killer is at her, watching the Doctor pretend to leave the hook but return every couple seconds, and the Nancy... where is the Nancy?!? Oh she's in a locker. She got out... went to a gen... blew a skill check. Welp, I'm going to piggy back on Dwight's sacrifice and leave the match with him.
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@Altarf said:
Because they want to have a power fantasy and win easily, and they don't like losing against a "meme" build because it's more embarrassing. The same thing applies to killers, too, hence the abundance of Freddy and Stridor Spirit, but unlike most power fantasy survivors, power fantasy killers don't insult and harass the other side because they lost.
They want an excuse because they're embarassed they lost, and the best excuse is that the killer must have camped/tunneled/sweated/used an op killer/used an op build/whatever buzzword they decide to use. With a meme build, the amount of excuses they can use goes down and they get even more annoyed.
That's why killers beat you on the hook when you Head On them. Most Power Fantasy Killers live on these forums to constantly cry about this or that while victimizing their entire side like the developers are some spiteful people hurting them. I didn't 4K? Must be cause of gen rush, gen time, no "early game collapse", DS, BT, Unbreakable, Looping, SWF, totem spawn, a pallet, the Steve, map too big, corn, breakable walls, grass, swamp, inside map, buggy sounds, etc.
@OldHunterLight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1867675#Comment_1867675
No tunnel, no camp, no nothing even with no obsession, side to side with mini ghostface.
And no joke 4 matches is what I've been doing with that meme build I even managed to get 3 gen grabs in 1 match.
I still question what is a mini Ghostface and if it actually is fun for the other side. Imagine a little guy shanking the shoes of survivors is cute though.
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Meme and just having fun but all 4Ks? I have a feeling your "fun" wasn't very "fun" for them.
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Haddnonfield and Game are the worse ones to me. If I get Haddnonfield as Twins... I may as well surrender if they realize 2nd story windows just end Victor's pursuits. Though that one capital I shaped Autohaven map is pretty awful to... it's always a 3 gen guard since the Killer can't afford traveling between the the two ends.
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@Chchchcheryl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1867332#Comment_1867332
David as well I think
I don't acknowledge eggman David.
Though the outfit is kind of hot though...
Alright I acknowledge it.
David to.
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Her design is a bit messy. I tried playing her a match or two recently and didn't enjoy it. As a Survivor, I hate playing against her. She removes healing from the match and makes it so your character is loud and visually loud. There also seems to a bug that causes your character to never end vomit while doing a gen. It's flat out obnoxious.
She has a great theme and design. Her game play is however lacking both as and against.
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I honestly don't think he needs much as one of the simple starter characters. I think the distant invisibility was a good change and disagree with people who wanted it for all distances. The shimmer is part of his character and a small part of skill in the Wraith player to approach in a smart way.
Some want him to be able to pass through anything while invisible, but I could see that quickly being a bug magnet where Wraith gets stuck or falls through the map.
The Windstorm change is one I could see if it's mild as going too far with it might make him too strong. I think I can agree with you maybe giving him some of it as base and nerfing the add ons could be the solution.
Lastly, I'd like to see the no sound add on for the bell removed. I feel the bell is pretty iconic to his character and hate seeing it be silent. I'd change it to be something to actually make the bell do something cool. Whether 3 strikes makes survivors scream or something that just isn't stripping him from his iconic sounds.
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While I understand the frustration. As Solo Rank 1-2 Survivors, I often get lobbies with low rank Survivos (sometimes as low as 17) that make the match impossible. Then there are killer matches (again, Rank 1-2) where I can quickly tell 1-4 members of the Survivor team are not Red Rank either. Then I find out they were a mix of yellows and greens.
Could be a killer shortage? Maybe. But it seems to break each direction.
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Egh, so fighting back against people torturing you endlessly makes them evil? Killer mains really are desperate to play the victim cards. Really desperate.
Also, pretty sure Felix, Yui, and Feng were trying to stop the spread and use of the Blight based on their outfit lore.
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As someone who almost never runs Ub or DS, both of them have to exist cause of crummy killer play styles. Killers are why these perks exist in the first place.
For Undying, I wish they started with a smaller nerf and simply removed the aura read on lit totems. This is opposite of what most of you killer mains cried for, but it'd make sense to nerf the top tier (Spirit, Freddy, Nurse, Blight) Killer's ability to guard the lit totems. I took it off Twins already. I mean if I could stomp teams with Overcharge Wraith... I don't need the Ruin+Undying combo on stronger killers.