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@buggybug said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815818#Comment_3815818
I wouldn't even bother trying friend I already made my post and all the salty killer mains is just gonna gang up on you with angry mob torches. Good luck still xd. We can just only make 1mil post like they did for distortion posts and hope maybe aura reading be gutted back.
You mean bad killer mains. To a good killer, distortion even pre nerf is more often a nerf to survivors. Its just fun for them and supports their playstyle. Not everyone wants to be a chase god, and now the survivors that actually cant handle chases, but are still good at completing objectives are just gonna feed the killer and get themselves hooked for nothing.
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@Unequalmitten86 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3800489#Comment_3800489
They need to include gen repair with chase because 30 seconds is a huge amount of time in chase. I had it one yesterday and I got one token back but immediately lost it in chase and then it took me the entire match to get the token back. It was a little hard to gens because they would easily find you. It needs to include gen repair as well.
Gen repair should be how it get's replenished. Not every survivor likes being chased and if they are doing gens they are doing objectives, and if a killer cant watch their gens without an aura perk that's their fault.
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@dwight444 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815767#Comment_3815767
the same people who didn't care to run distortion pre-nerf will not care to run it now. Don't know why the perk being nerfed would cause an uptick in users.
tunneling is not new, not related to distortion. 'Gen rush', yes, what the hell else are we supposed to do during the game when we're not in chase, unhooking, or healing? What are we supposed to do at the start of the match when there is literally nothing else to do?
You want to rat in a locker, go for it. Good luck perfecting the art of timing a locker perfectly so you don't get aura read. Your aura will be read now more often now thanks to not being able to hide your aura all game anymore……
That's the thing. The art of perfecting locker timing is to just never leave it. The second a rat gets hooked even one time they'll just hide the rest of the game in one.
I say even more people will use distortion than pre nerf is because aura perks are just getting even stronger. You'll see far more object of obsessions and distortions now even with the nerfs as killers just keep getting more and more free aura perks.
Tunneling is obviously not now, but if you dont think its related to distortion you're living in your own world.
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@LapisInfernalis said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/429389/distortion
- Off the Record also hides your aura
- Lockers exist
- You can hide behind gens
- Object has been a valid alternative to Distortion for a long time, but most people chose to be hidden and be a bush, because it was easier than learning how to loop properly
Off the record's a great perk, but far from an aura counter perk. A great perk but the usage of its aura hiding ability is minimal at best and nobody looks at that perk for its ability to hide aura. Once off the record hits blood trails are massively noticeable and you're already marked by the killer. Hiding aura at that point isn't super necessary but a welcomed bonus. Its purpose is to prevent getting overly focused on killers and increase your chasing potential.
If you actually read my post I specifically mentioned object of obsession, but if you think that's a counter you're also kidding yourself. That perk benefits the killer more then you most of the time and the intention of desired playstyle behind it is completely opposite to distortion. No person who wants to stealth would ever even consider using it, but sure lets buff killers with our own perks. Objects the kind of perk I use when I want the killer to notice me and just have fun getting chased; not to win.
Everything besides number 3 I already mentioned, and even said that lockers are just gonna be used even more often. So that's what you want now? Instead of all your distortion rats hiding in a corner they'll just be in a locker being an even bigger burden on the team.
You are not just gonna alter the way people want to play just because you dont like it, you'll only turn those same people you hate so much into bigger burdens and turn the game into an instant 3v1.
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@Wezqu said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815767#Comment_3815767
Not to mention he only sees that one Distortion user because he pays attention to him because of playing style not because of the perk. The perk is just what gets blamed of the person playing style.
This is excessively true. Because they dont play like they want them to play, they'll harp on them and take specific notice.
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@dwight444 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815752#Comment_3815752
I'm sure some do. In my experience, I really only see 1 person on our team with distortion and 9/10 this person is ratting all game. Plenty of users on here agree and have shared that this is similar to their experience: distortion players usually just hide or as they call it, 'stealth gameplay'.
this doesn't make it so that all you'll do is take chase and 'gen rush'. Just play the game dude, no one is stopping you from walking and hiding if you hear the killer or playing smarter, it's just not rewarding you for hiding and forcing anyone without distortion to get focused on. It's not a big deal unless you relied on it so much.
all this makes it is so that you can still hide but you have to earn it by playing the game beyond sit and do gens. Go alleviate some pressure from the other 3 team members, do saves, heal, etc.
So your solution is to turn those same distortion users into locker rats. There are no other aura counter perks and they wont just stop using stealth gameplay. The perk was already a dead slot for survivors. It's already a rather big weakness having that perk in chase and this change only makes it worse. With aura perks being stronger then ever, if anything you'll see even more distortion user's regardless of the nerf since there's no other counter. The game's just turned into a gen rush/tunneling simulator instead of your so called gen simulator.
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@dwight444 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815744#Comment_3815744
the entire point is to stop rewarding players who use exclusively use it to hide and sell their 3 non-distortion teammates to the killer; hence why you only get tokens if you participate in chases too and not just gen simulator…
It's incredibly easy to just predict where a distortion user is off of the information you get from seeing other survivors. Distortion's now basically just a dead perk slot because even before it made you weaker in chase's and with the amount of aura perks currently it'll basically just have no value. But regardless, it's still the only aura counter, so the people that want to stealth will still use it making themselves an even bigger burden on the team.
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@dwight444 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3800376#Comment_3800376
well, maybe it's time you take chase and learn it instead of just dodging it. The game exists beyond a simple 'do gens' level.
Plenty of distortion users take chase, this make's it so all you'll do is take chase/gen rush.
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@Ohyakno said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815717#Comment_3815717
Wait. Perk X is strong on nurse? That's nuts. Better balance everything in the around this one killer they ignores half the mechanics in the game.
The only time I ever ran out of distortion stacks was vs a full aura reading huntress or scratched mirror Myers. Vs nearly every other killer in the game it just turned aura perks into a dead slot. That sucks. Sorry. People stealthed before distortion and you can stealth now.
Its excessively strong on that killer specifically, but its far from being as bad as you claim. When people stealthed before distortion, there were half as many aura perks. You are basically guaranteed to know where at least half the team is now almost 24/7 if not more. Even then, if you didn't burn all of someone's distortion stacks you'd still see most of the other survivors and be able to fairly easily predict where the distortion user is if you had half a brain. It's far from a dead slot to the killer, and more of a dead slot to survivors since it makes them even weaker in a chase compared to the rest of their team.
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@Ohyakno said:
How's the killer gonna win the game by just not chasing?
I'm sorry that your perk that shut down a whole suite of perks and add-ons without any input from anyone is getting nerfed. It's not as bad as it could have been. It's still useable.
It didn't shut down a whole suite of perks and add-ons. It delayed them, it was super easy for a killer if they wanted to burn out distortion. The perk could have some small tweaks since you'd probably never run out against killers with larger terror radius, but even then. If a survivors doing objective's it's already easy to find them even without aura perks.
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@Ohyakno said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3815707#Comment_3815707
Nobody is gonna run predator. It's a bad perk. Against 32m tr killers even with 2-3 aura perks you could not run out of stacks of distortion. Now you can. It was necessary to help perk diversity.
It was incredibly easy to to burn distortion stacks, especially on killers with smaller terror radius. Predator is not strong on many killers, but its incredibly oppressive with nurse and a few specific killers. This didn't help diversity, its simply forced the game into a single playstyle. Everyone that doesn't fill that gap will now be filtered out of the game.
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@StrikersRed77 said:
According to the developers -
Dev note: Distortion counters a lot of Perks & Add-Ons. The token system and recharge mechanic makes Distortion far too effective and allows Survivors to go unseen for the entire match.
To limit its effectiveness, we have removed the token system and made it so Distortion only reactivates upon being chased. We have extended the duration slightly to help account for longer aura reading effects to compensate.
A lot of killers already use aura reading builds, especially when weave of attunement came out. Making distortion only work during chases will essentially make this perk useless. Distortion's current system gives survivors a fighting chance to play against killers that either use aura reading builds or have extreme stealth characteristics (the Shape, Onryo, etc.). I strongly ask the developers to reconsider this update, as this would make survivors (new and veteran) not have safeguards against killers that intentionally make playing a match unenjoyable.
Its not that distortion counters too many perks and add on's, but that distortion is the only counter to so many perks and add ons. Dev's should get a clue. If someone wants to go unseen the whole game they'll just go in lockers. An aura build will already burn through distortion stacks. With the new build and perks like predator it'll basically be impossible to even have stacks of distortion. With a smart killer, that perk alone would completely allow the killer to control his stacks on you as well so you'd never be able to use the perk. If a survivor's gone unseen for the entire match, its because they are not engaging and if anything this will make cowardly players even more likely to hide in lockers. The amount of survivors that are not great in long chases is already high even in higher ranks. All this is going to do is encourage tunneling out the weaker survivors and massively encourage gen rushing build's.