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@KrazyKatFTW said:
I love going against flashlights as killer , they get you a lot of action, if they are blinding you at pallets and chain blinding you then they have less battery to make actual saves. if this game was to lose flashlights it would take away some of the best most interactive gameplay for both sides
I agree , then don't necessarily need to be banned , they just don't need to be used to troll the killer that's all .
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@Slowpeach said:
I agree that flashlights are a really bad design. Like the idea of interfering with the killer and being a general nuisance (in a healthy way that is) to make them think twice about their actions is not a terrible design, but the implementation is bad. The fact a perk completely nullifies them and otherwise does nothing else is bad and on top of that it's not immediately obvious to a newer survivor that the light isn't working because of lightborn.
The interaction and 'timing' of stunning a killer who is picking someone up is not good either. Too early and you blind but don't cause them to drop, too late and they can look away. Sure there is skill in getting the timing just right but sometimes it works from angles and places that aren't intuitive nor can be realistically countered by the killer if the survivor is downed in certain places unless they run lightborn. It's just bad design all round.
The use of them after a pallet stun or drop is okay but that's about it. The other major use they get is as a taunt which is probably the most hated of all. It's also the most common tool of bully squads so that's fun...
I never take them on survivor and it's rare now that I get caught out by one on killer, though I run lightborn if I see more then one survivor carrying and I take mental note of which ones are carrying them if they find them later so I know to be careful if I down someone other then that survivor.
I like your argument, I definitely agree with you. I don't think flashlight are necessarily all bad , but just used In a bad way . To all survivors who use them fairly more power to you . But to all others who make it bad for us all , please stop .
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@legacycolt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982614#Comment_2982614
You’re refusing to even take an advice lol and that’s the problem here. You don’t want to become better, you just want everything handed to you on a silver tablet.
Just like survivors want to hold on to every perk like Dh and don't want them taken away like child they get upset . You survivors hold on to everything. You already have too much as it is . Let go for once .
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@Shroompy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982590#Comment_2982590
I mean Im not a Survivor main, but I think I can give some pretty valid arguements as to why they are probably one of the least viable options to pick from while also being the most versatile item in the game, which is by no means a bad thing
Lets address the issues you mentioned, mainly clicking and chain blinding. Both of these are valid tactics. Clicking is not only used to grab the killers attention but also can get the attention of your fellow teammates. Chain blinding has its benefits, I dont think I need to explain why taking away your adversarys vision is a good thing for you especially for a longer period of time.
As for clicking at the exit gate, its just generic BM. Tbagging at the gate would have the exact same effect and its simply being a sore winner
OK, I understand your point an you make a good argument, but here is the flaw in your argument . The clicking is not OK, it is highly annoying and the only thing it make killers do it get angry. The double blind is not needed but if you need to buy yourself time I understand your point there . But the clicking is not needed . And some of the survivors will even follow the killer around and click at them , which is annoying. And no one, not even other survivors what to hear that threw out the game . It gets old fast .
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@legacycolt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982599#Comment_2982599
Place it at windows and on grass. So simple
Not simple , DH is unpredictable there is no "traping it "
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982593#Comment_2982593
But "constantly" is subjective. Would you consider someone blinding a killer after every pallet "constantly"?
The only issue I see here is the annoying sound because blinding is just what flashlights do as intended.
You still don't see the point , survivors use them constantly ,like double blinding the killer at a hook so the blind is longer is trolling . And again at the exit Gate when they want to gloat. That's using it wrong . You know what you do, stop playing around it .
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982580#Comment_2982580
It's...textbook trolling/griefing - you are using a game mechanic to annoy or frustrate another player in a manner that they can't do anything about. There is no other purpose to using a flashlight macro.
Again - a bit of charity here, this does not seem like an EPL speaker.
Yes you are right , the flashlight is not the problem so much ,it is the people operating it. And yes it is trolling . If people used them like they where intended to it would not be a problem . But unfortunately they don't. I'm sorry you have to deal with it .
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982587#Comment_2982587
Define using a tool "wrong" because you did complain about survivors blinding the killer in your post, which is what the flashlights are for.
For one if you can read what I said right I said , when they constantly do it . Or when they stand at the exit gye and blind the killer for fun . It's using the "TOOL " wrong . And not to mention the clicking sound. Which is highly annoyed and usually means the survivor is trolling .
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@Shroompy said:
yeah youre right
they are the worst item a Survivor can bring
Also, Ive been reading through what youve said to others. You make a thread to start a discussion.
You dont make a thread to hear only what you want to hear and disregard anything the opposing side has to say. Thats an echo chamber
I understand , I'm not making an echo chamber ,if a survivor main , or someone else gives a valaed argument or make a good point I will agree . I don't just want to here what I want . I just have not seen a good argument yet. Just people stating there opinion . which is tolling fine.
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982577#Comment_2982577
Using an item isnt trolling, as annoying as one might be. You can make the point of it being bad for people with disabilities, which I agree if it's a macro and that could def be toned down to so it is more friendly for disabled people.
And when you start a comment with "you survivors" implying that I am a survivor only player, and that I'm the one using macros because I disagreed with them, yes it is a "you vs us" thread.
Well you talk like a person that contributes to the problem ,good for you if you don't just play survivor. I'm just calling out the people who actually do it on purpose. And like I said there is always something else to read if you don't like the topic. And finally yes using a tool WRONG is trolling , and you know it .
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982566#Comment_2982566
"you survivors", just another US vs Them thread, move along, nothing original or constructive to read here.
Then yes please move on , I really dont need your commentary. I post so other people can read it , not just for you.
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/326448/flashlights-the-most-worst-thing-in-the-game
Yeah, I hate...wait, 'flashers' is already taken. Flickers?
The strobing plus the noxious clicking gives me a literal headache, and my photosensitivity issues are minor.
I'm sorry , it must be hard to play like that. The flashlights are the worst . And they need to be maybe nerfed or at least take that clicking noise away .
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@Marigoria said:
TIL that hacking is a survivor only problem.
"The_best_killer_main"... but complaining about flashlights.... ok
Yes complaining about flashlights because you survivors know what you are doing you are TROLLING . And it makes you look bad
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@[Deleted User] said:
Why nerf when you can just rework
There really is no way to rework dead hard . Unless like I have said before , where it can be used ONCE per game
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@legacycolt said:
It’s getting nerfed because many killers don’t know how to deal with dead hard. I wish more people would evaluate their own plays and realize it’s their own mistakes that lost them a match, not dead hard.
Also dead hard is necessary because of many killers, killer add ons and flawed map design.
Sorry, no it's dead hard . This is the most abused perk in the game and it's only creates trolling , it's not that killers do the know how to handle it , it's you survivors abuse the perk. remember it 4 vs 1 , if a killer has to deal with 4 dead hards and then with other perks like lith and sprint burst . You survivors have too many speed perks . Dead hard need to go . It's just too unbalanced.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982488#Comment_2982488
So when playing killer if you successfully mind game a survivor at a loop or pallet so that they basically run into you only to dead hard THROUGH, not away from, your attack due to invincibility BS whose mistake is that?
Please explain for uneducated killers how to deal with dead hard.
There really is no way to counter dead hard unless you are using really strong perks. And even then you really don't get much out of it. If you get a lucky hit because they run into you , you just got lucky . Dead hard can change a whole game because of the distance they get , survivors all ready get an extra speed boost when hit ,why do they need another . My suggestion to help you deal with dead hard is try to run exhaustion perks like blood echo which can help some times but it's rare are maybe an add-on for your particular killer that cause exhaustion. Hope this helps
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@Zozzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2982447#Comment_2982447
The nerf won't change much. You will get hits in that you wouldn't have before the nerf, but it wil still be problematic.
They are only going to remove the distance while leaving the i frames. I assume they are going to give it a bonus for actually avoiding a hit as well.
That's ok, I guess. I still wish they would like get rid of it. Or just make it where it can only be used Once.
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@Slaughterhouse3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/326435/why-dead-hard-should-be-nerfed
It's getting nerfed.
Thank god!!!!!
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@KateMain86 said:
I main survivor and when I get a hacker on my team they never try to hide it. They always do the craziest things like they are trying to show off. Its very annoying especially when you start the match and instantly hear a million hook and scream sounds go off in your ear. It startles me every time. I've seen some in videos even switch to killer as survivor. I had one who did that in a lobby before. They switched to spirit so I just left the lobby.
I understand your pain, it's the most annoying thing ever . They need better security to pervent the game being hacked.
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@darkshadows8326 said:
The 5m range to penalty is too small and the the penalty is too minimal. Two fixes that can deter hook camping further is either a much heavier penalty to your points or to increase the range from 5 meters to 15 meters of the hook.
There should actually be NO penalty for hook camping , you survivors camp pallets we should be able to camp hooks. Simple as that.