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@CallMeRusty420 said:
No offence but your gameplay of Huntress is cringy.
None taken, no offense but your reading comprehension is cringy. As I said not my game, someone on console posted it. Was just showing what level 12 killers deal with. Aiming with a joystick isn't the easiest so I can sympathize with him a bit
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Figured it was Steam, wonder what it is on Console. Thanks for the help tho
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People tested the new content, played some games got the idea and went back to the normal game since it's actually worth BP and Shards. Everyone I know moved back a few days ago. It's time to launch it IMO.
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@Visionmaker said:
@Shipthebread Only 2.6% of Steam players have "Blood on your face", as compared to 7.53% for PSN.Also
Rank 1 Killer = 1.6%
Rank 1 Survivor = 2.9%.Rank 10 Killer = 3.7%
Rank 10 Survivor = 6.1%The distribution probably isn't as bad as you think it is.
Thanks, but that's Steam or PS4? Where are you getting that?
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@RagingCalm said:
@Shipthebread HOLY #########!!! 30 minutes? I didn't think it could possibly be that bad! Well, while an in-game currency incentive may work for some people, it would not fix the game's core mechanics. Maybe extra shards and bp could be a band-aid until real balance is worked out to make Killer fun to play again, though. Certainly on PS4 and Xbox it would work, but I am afraid on PC it would do as much good, as several people on PC including myself are already nearly "finished" with the game, at least in terms of progression. I already have every single Killer prestige 3, and am very close to getting every single perk on all of them(only about 4 Killers to go). My survivors also have all the teachables unlocked, and my main survivor Tapp has quite a lot of perks, prestige 3. So basically, PC needs a bit more of an incentive than just bloodpoints.30 minutes easily. Just to get a lobby, then if you get dogged rinse and repeat. That is if you are in a SWF solo is not bad at all. Couple of nights ago was playing with a friend who tried to stream, we got 2 games in an hour and 1 a person in our party got dropped. Needless to say he couldn't stream because what viewer is going to watch that.
Yeah, bloodpoints is meh as a reward, shards is the way to go. I understand they just bought the rights back and now they want to make money so the in game currency balance is delicate, but what's far worse is losing all your killers.
Just go look at DBD streams, it's littered with Survivors now. Even some of the known killer mains are playing more and more survivor for various reasons. Doesn't look good ATM
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@RagingCalm said:
@Shipthebread overall trophies/achievements are just a bad way to view stats, because there are a lot of people who buy the game and never play it, or buy multiple copies for whatever reason. I do understand your point though, and it is the exact same here on PC. The problem isn't the system, it is that Killer in general is just not fun to play anymore.Thanks for the info in terms of judging based on trophies.
I know killer isn't fun to play, I just wonder if there is something of a bandaid that can be done to move some people who are the fence about killer over to playing it more. Would it be more shards per game?
With the introduction of the new store, it will get some people coming back and grinding more for sure but at the game's current state on PS4 if it takes me ~20-30 minutes to get a game at night how many people are just going to abandon, the grind is going to be hella real for survivors.
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They got to do something for console at least to get players to start playing killer. It's in a really bad spot. Look at the % of players and the achievements. Kill 15 survivors is 7% of players, you then go look at survivor and 29% of people have done the Kobe escape achievement. I wonder if it would be something as small as a double blood point weekend for killers only, maybe just something to get people to play enough games to the point where they might play killer more often.
https://www.exophase.com/game/dead-by-daylight-psn/trophies/
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@Master said:
Usually when I have to play with a 3man SWF it ends that the 3 discord idiots just loop around the killer the whole game and save each other with their lightsabres.
I legit had a game where I had to do 4.5 gens because they didnt do anything. I rlly hate such gamesWhile I have had these games too, I am really kind of annoyed by the similar line of thought ''When I play SWF we are mostly just chatting not some coordinated try hard super team''
When I SWF yes it's mostly just banter but obviously the most important information comes out in the first 20 seconds.
1- What killer
2- Location
3- Does he have ruin (not a big deal but why not share info)Don't diminish that information thats a lot to know straight away.
Then from there its'
- Killer is on me, do gens.
- Killer is still on me do gens
- Okay ill distract killer get the save or Killer is over here go for save
- There is a gen at X location if anyone is looking for one
- Last Gen almost done, go to the doors.
Is that super coordinated? Not really but ######### that's easily 90% of the game done and communicated.
So yeah SWF just because you don't imagine it being a team in a soundproof booth shouting constantly to each other doesn't mean you aren't communicating a massive amount of information to each other.
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@Tsulan said:
@theagitatedapricot said:
And yet killers keep playing and I never have to wait more than 2 minutes to get into a new game. The constant whining from some people just doesn't mesh with the reality.Yes, certain killers need buffs, yes some survivor perks could use a nerf, yes there are toxic survivors. But the exact opposite could be said as well. Nurse needs a nerf, Hillbilly's instant chainsaw is OP, Doctor with the right perks and add ons is a hellish experience. There are plenty of toxic killers who body block survivors in the basement and go AFK, who hard camp for no other reason than to ensure a particular survivor gets no BP, etc. There are survivors and killers who team up to farm randoms.
Stop acting like killers and survivors are two separate classes of people. Stop whining about how one side or the other has it so hard and being teabagged or called a noob or being camped and hit on the hook is just so hurtful. It's a game, if you choose to take it seriously that's on you. If you have no motivation to play then don't.
You haven´t been around for long have you?
Missed last Summer, where survivors had to wait 45+ minute queues, only to get dodged.
Yes, those were fun times! Devs had to nerf WGLF, remove region lock and give killers BBQ. All in an attempt to give killers an incentive to actually play killer.3 out of 12 killers are viable at high ranks: Billy, Nurse and Huntress.
Every other killer needs a buff.Have you tried playing nurse yourself? Nurse has the steepest learning curve.
Billy has no instant chainsaw.
And the doctor makes you scream, wow... so OP!I have over 850 hours. Half of them as survivor and i´ve never been held hostage by a killer. NEVER!
But survivors sure have held the game hostage by using DH to reach unreachable spot and then go afk. Or by abusing a glitch. Crotus Penn was famous for having unreachable spots for the killer.Yup I have probably about the same amount of hours or more and until the last couple of months I never really played killer and not once have I been held hostage. Although I never play like a piece of ######### either maybe there is a correlation.
I play on console and right now the lobby problem is real. If you want to play SWF past 9pm EST you will be waiting over 30 minutes or more for a game and don't think of bringing anything with you or the killer will dodge. He will probably dodge because you are 4 loading in at the same time. Do I fault them? not really, they can easily get another game in 1 minute since no one is playing killer. Not my game below but someone posted it on facebook, killer's skill aside the point is that if mid tier killers are getting these types of games and the stress that comes from them I can see why people would just rather play SWF and deal with no stress. I started a new account and at rank 18 I am getting full perked out survivor teams with their flashlights and all that mess.
Inb4 run franklins, note the hotswitch. How is this not something that devs have addressed. I get hotswitches to 4 flashlights far more than I ever should. I would switch franklins on if I could..
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@MojoTheFabulous said:
@Dragonredking said:
I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to spend literal hours rewatching really old dev stream to pinpoint the exact stream it happened inBut you'd think at least one person out of the many that claim it to be something the Devs said would remember when it was.
That's my point, it's been all over various forums and one would imagine that someone could find this clip or at least have a dev stream range in which it was said.
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I have been asking the same question everywhere, people keep saying they swear they heard it yet no one can point to the time and place it was said. Inb4 someone says, ''I don't have time to look but it happened''
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@powerbats said:
want to be racist go to a KKK meeting.
I went, it was just a bunch of survivor mains tho. Boring night won't attend again
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Yeah I am not someone who really ever noticed that type of thing before. My brother got it on PC after I had been playing it daily on PS4 for a good 6-8 months. It was like butter on PC so smooth everything just felt nice.
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@HIPSTERLION said:
@Shipthebread
You are answering yourself , these are examples . there is a whole list that is not worth mentioning since it takes a lot of time .
But OK you want another1 :
180 after the nurse blink or hag's teleport .
These are just examples and we all know no matter what you say cross platform will never happen in dbd . all you asking for is more players and less waiting for games , well my answer to that is waiting because dbd is a growing community . I remember the average view on twitch for dbd was 8000 2 month ago , now it is 11000 . so just wait .180 what? Look man, I play on PC and I play on PS, I use a controller for survivor on both. I don't have any issues. Mouse control on this game is not the be all end all that makes it unplayable for people. What makes it unplayable is 30 minute waits for lobbies. The entire playerbase would sacrifice a slight skill disadvantage on a couple of killers over not playing.
Your argument sucks, you keep doubling down. This game isn't as mouse intensive and you want to pretend. Point finale
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@HIPSTERLION said:
@Shipthebread
So you don't read my comments well and just want to say something because if you read my comment above I said FOR EXAMPLE 360 and FOR EXAMPLE huntress !!!!You aren't understanding my argument. You said it - Cross platform could solve so many problems but it will create bigger problems as it is much easier to play on PC and it will become absolutely unfair .
For example something like 360 is much harder to do on console and sometimes impossible but in PC it's much easier and you can do it pretty more effective , or for example huntress hatchets are harder to land on ps4 than it is on PC .You gave 2 examples. 1 of which I explained how people on PC use controllers and can 360 so your only other example as to why cross platform would cause more problems is 1 killer. I then said Fortnite is cross platform and would require more eye hand co-ordination than the huntress and DBD as a whole and some reason I don't seem to hear my noise about it being so bad.
So my overall point is that cross platform would solve more problems than it would ever cause and even those ''problems'' you state really aren't an issue.
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@HIPSTERLION said:
@Shipthebread
So you say you don't know how to press m1 to shoot XD
it's like you saying fortnite needs aim like counter strike or h1z1My point is that its far more taxing on your eye hand co-ordination than DBD is as a whole.
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@HIPSTERLION said:
Shipthebread said:You can't gen rush if the killer isn't occupied can you?
Marth 88 didn't do the experiment by himself .
He had friends that were good with survivor .
I'm not saying he's not a good survivor , I'm saying he's a killer main and he is not the best survivor or as you call them " bullies "
And of course to be mentioned you can gen rush in any situation unless you wanna be altruistic .If I recall only 1 person in the squad was a survivor main
I don't think any of the survivors who play rank 1 are capable of consistently being bullies. As I said you are the one who kept saying 360's... It just doesn't really work against good killers, all these noob and ochido compilations of their ''sick'' moves are against crappy killers or are the product of multiple games in which it didn't work the majority of the time and they cherry picked the few times it did.
You can't gen rush if the killer isn't occupied in some capacity. I mean the killer would need to be totally braindead.
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@HIPSTERLION said:
@Shipthebread
No 1 didn't say we want to bully killers in rank 1 so I don't know according to which 1 of the comments you are saying that . and since I'm a killer main myself I honestly don't get it when you tell me we want to bully killers XD
But anyway for the fortnite it's kinda interesting that you say mouse is much more needed since the masters of fortnite believe its just a game of building and it doesn't need good aim that much as its all about getting better advantage by building . and by masters I mean some1 like ninja or shroud .You keep bringing up 360's. They don't really work at top level play really. So survivor on PS4 controller is 100% viable against PC killers. Also you can 360 on a controller anyhow.
For the fortnite thing, I agree that sentiment would be shared for what separates top level players who have top level aim already. So building is a big factor at that point. But you still have to know how to aim. Can't kill people by never being able to shoot.
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@HIPSTERLION said:
AlexAnarchy said:Seems you know nothing at all about the depip squad experiment he set in motion...
Depip squad wins by gen rushing not long chases . I do know about everything
You can't gen rush if the killer isn't occupied can you?
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@AlexAnarchy said:
@HIPSTERLION said:
Shipthebread said:It's harder on PS4 only when it comes to playing killer and only certain killers (Huntress mostly) If you watch Marth88 when he does his survivor games he plays on controller. You can do 360's and they are not too difficult. Anyways 360's don't even really work on good killers anyhow so it shouldn't be a big issue. I suggest you change your controller sensitivity to 100 for survivor.
People are playing Fortnite on PS4 vs PC which would be a heck of a lot harder but you can get your skill level up high enough on a controller that I think the best PS4 killers would still be deadly even with a controller.
Marth 88 is a killer main , he's not a badass survivor in terms of something like 360 .
And fortnite is completely a game of strategy and building , not a game of aim or jukes so it's completely 2 different things .
You can see the way you can turn the mouse in PC you can get a 360 view as the killer in almost 1 second however in ps4 it takes like 2 second or more to get a 360 view so there is a lot of difference even with killers like wraith or hag .Seems you know nothing at all about the depip squad experiment he set in motion...
Also I thought Marth88's survivor game was pretty damn good to be honest.
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@HIPSTERLION said:
Shipthebread said:It's harder on PS4 only when it comes to playing killer and only certain killers (Huntress mostly) If you watch Marth88 when he does his survivor games he plays on controller. You can do 360's and they are not too difficult. Anyways 360's don't even really work on good killers anyhow so it shouldn't be a big issue. I suggest you change your controller sensitivity to 100 for survivor.
People are playing Fortnite on PS4 vs PC which would be a heck of a lot harder but you can get your skill level up high enough on a controller that I think the best PS4 killers would still be deadly even with a controller.
Marth 88 is a killer main , he's not a badass survivor in terms of something like 360 .
And fortnite is completely a game of strategy and building , not a game of aim or jukes so it's completely 2 different things .
You can see the way you can turn the mouse in PC you can get a 360 view as the killer in almost 1 second however in ps4 it takes like 2 second or more to get a 360 view so there is a lot of difference even with killers like wraith or hag .The point is, that survivor can be played viably and fine in rank 1 with a controller. If all you care about is doing 360's and trying to be the next youtuber bullying low rank killers, good news you can still do that with a controller, I play on PC with a controller it works.
I would argue that Fortnite takes more mouse control in every single game than DBD does, so if the gap isn't that bad in Fortnite, I don't see it being that devastating in DBD
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The amount of anxiety and stress I get from playing killer, I applaud anyone who plays killer. I hate it when they all camp the exits, teabag etc.. I do my business and bounce, hit the killer with a GG. The killers are the real heros on my eyes. They do the work that 90% survivors are too afraid to do.
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@lasombra1979 said:
@MyFreddyIsBae said:
A console player here.
There is only one reason why you see few nurses on console.... Framerate And that is one of the main reasons I do not play the Nurse on console.
Is that something that is fixable by the game makers??
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It's harder on PS4 only when it comes to playing killer and only certain killers (Huntress mostly) If you watch Marth88 when he does his survivor games he plays on controller. You can do 360's and they are not too difficult. Anyways 360's don't even really work on good killers anyhow so it shouldn't be a big issue. I suggest you change your controller sensitivity to 100 for survivor.
People are playing Fortnite on PS4 vs PC which would be a heck of a lot harder but you can get your skill level up high enough on a controller that I think the best PS4 killers would still be deadly even with a controller.
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All below are cross platform
War thunder
Paragon
Dc universe online
Ff14
Fortnite
Rocket league
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@ThePloopz said:
Angaar said:in this day and age, with a game being on dif platforms they should have cross-platform play.
Sony won’t allow it they’ve turned those kind of opportunities down multiple times. It’s not hard to do either
That's not true at all. Fortnite is cross platform.
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@Scgamecock86 said:
HIPSTERLION said:@Shipthebread
And it's actually really sad . they should really show more love to the console
I play on ps4, I like to play both roles, but way more killer. I have no problem finding a match as killer. But finding one as survivor takes longer, and like you said I've seen so many people back out just because someone was holding a flashlight. When I play killer I like the challenge. I've go in sometimes and get all 4 with still 5 gens left and sometimes all 4 are teabagging at the exit. Who cares it is just fun man. I think people just don't like to play killer right now because they prolly get owned every time. If the toxicity wasn't so bad more people would probably play killer. Look at the trophy info for the game. Trophy for full killer loadout is like 11%. Trophy for full survivor loadout is like 30 something %.
Yup, I used to play Survivor mostly and now I play killer because I can get games all the time and though I am alone by myself, at least I am playing and I don't have to wait around.
I also have the same playstyle as you. Very boom bust, I think it's because as soon as I hook bam I am going for the only lead my BBQ and chilli shoes me. I know that means there are 2 probably close but I like games where its as many hooks, saves, heals and hooked again as possible. Which is also nice since you don't get much hate from salty survivors.
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No worries, thought it was like something someone said yesterday that peaked your interest. That said ''Things dev's said'' I have asked this across every platform I could find. Did they say no clowns due to phobia? can anyone prove this? Everyone says they said it but I find no proof.
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Well since you made the thread because of what someone said on stream, maybe it would be fun if you shared that?
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@Countfunkular said:
RagingCalm said:One thing I'll say that my mouse is so ######### that even at maximum DPI(how sensitive the mouse is) and maximum camera sensitivity, hitting 360's is very hard. Every time I think about trying to hit 360'ers with a controller I cringe.
Has crazy as it might sound some people have actually managed to 360. I don't know how I think they're plugging in a mouseO_o
I seriously don't know what black magic they're using360's as survivor are not hard to do, move controller sensitivity to 100.
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It's been fairly obvious since launch that Console isn't important. No updates on massive issues, they never seem to take any questions on stream about console, TBH I don't even think they have a grasp of the current state of the game on console.
Not sure if you are killer or survivor, but go ahead and try to play some SWF with 1 or 2 friends past 9pm and tell me how that works for you. 20-30 minutes to find a lobby only to have the killer back out and rinse and repeat over and over. Last night buddy was streaming, we got 2 games in 1 hour when in SWF, I just went and played some killer before logging off.
Such a large lack of killers on PS4, been like that for months. Most people I know keep ranking down because anything past ~13 you will struggle to find games. But playing against baby killers is boring as well. Not sure what needs to be done, I hope the new DLC brings people back but I see it being the same inject we got when the pig came. Maybe 3-4 days of fresh blood back before people go off and play something else.
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When I say ranking system, I mean some type of leaderboard. I really feel like this is lacking, people like to know their stats. I believe BHVR said they were working on this, I really think this is low hanging fruit to help engagement.
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On Cosole, the vast majority of players are survivors. I am in a few facebook groups and every poll it's overwhelmingly survivor main sided, Past 9pm it takes 20 - 30 minutes to get a game if you are playing SWF. I play a fair amount of Killer and past 9pm you mostly face SWF as well, killers will back out of those games because it's simply not fun for them, so it's this long cycle repeated over and over.
Since most players on console are survivor mains, most of them won't ever gravitate towards playing the nurse. I have played this game since it launched on PS4. I might get a nurse once ever couple of days. Might work out to once ever 20-30 matches. Do I think she is worse on Console? not really, I just think nobody really plays her. I haven't faced many middle tier nurse players, either they are trying to do a daily or learning, or they are fantastic (but there are not many of them)
A ranking system or something people can use to compete / brag to each other about would probably change this in a big way. Honestly there is ZERO reason to play this game other than the fact that you just really like it. If that is the case then why not play with friends? So you get stuck where we are now.
TLDR; Console is mostly survivors, no one plays killer and those killers also don't play nurse.
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Hmmm it was acting crazy last night as well. Kept kicking people out of games, I played 5 games in a row of only 3 survivors. Ended up just turning it off and playing civilization
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I am excited to watch everyone on PC play it for a week while I wait for it on Console. So my hype and excitement is at an all time low
https://youtu.be/n2gIyhRnXgA