Pika_Belle
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@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008400#Comment_2008400
Perhaps other people's experience differs from yours?
Just some food for thought.
Higher tier killers are needed at red ranks. I am currently rank 2,and i need a killer with map mobility more than anything to keep them off the gens. Because the gen rush is real!
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@Seraphor said:
"Spirit is EZ cos all you need to be able to do is HEAR and you win."
Then surely every other killer is "EZ" because all you need to be able to do is SEE and you can win...?
I play Spirit, it's not always that easy to tell where a survivor is. Sprinting and scratch marks are usually a much bigger give away than sound alone.
Thank you! Plus stridor helps with the direction they are going in so you don't go off too far one way. And even though you are louder in pain etc, you also sound like you are literally on top of me. If you are in upstairs building, it's confusing as heck
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@lkalin91 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2010788#Comment_2010788
don't mind me bro, just my opinion, not all of treat this game like esports, some of us wanna have a chill time, which is hard since everyone in this game is a sweaty ahole
I don't play sweaty though, as I said most of my games I get at least 2k with 10 hooks cuz i play fair, don't tunnel or camp out struggle. I try to find a good 3 gen strat when I load in because gen rush is real at red ranks
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@lkalin91 said:
Spirit with good headphones and decent perks is easy mode, only reason people play her is how strong she is. I never found her appealing, her 'power' is just moving faster with little counterplay from survivor side if you have decent hearing, and I don't like playing anything that I find annoying to play vs either
That's like saying survivors only run meta perks cuz thats the only way they are good. To me survivors can run whatever they want. Perks and killers are there to be used, not avoid because someone is a salty Sally for losing
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@Dizzy1096 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2009833#Comment_2009833
I take Stridor on Spirit only because if I don’t I go against 3-4 iron will users.
For a killer that can’t see and relies on sound there’s no point putting yourself at a disadvantage against silent survivors
Exactly why i take stridor. I took it off last night on midwich, which I hate that map btw. Two out of 4 of the survivors had iron will, lucky enough they were dumb enough to not realise, yes i can still hear you running. When they skulk off walking with iron will is the problem. Cuz i cant hear or see. I played a few games last night, made it to rank 2,and after this thread, I gave less of a ######### what the survivors were thinking, i had more fun, and i even had one survivor tell me that I was a damn good spirit and one of the best he's been against, which was very uplifting 😊
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@YourNightmare said:
Stridor Spirit has no counter... So ye, it doesn't require any skill and it is super easy, what do you expect ? It would be like playing COD with an aimbot...
You main Spirit so master her and don't use Stridor.
So I'm supposed to remove stridor so all the red ranks playing with iron will can bully me further because I won't hear anything. ..may I also add that I only have around 100-150 hours as killer and I'm a survivor main. That spans across bubba, plague, pig, clown and spirit? So hardly a "master" at her. Take stridor off would still get someone moaning... Cuz spirit
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@Chappy01 said:
I mean, if you play cheese, expect to get trash talked, that's all I gotta say.
And what's your build? BT Unbreakable DS Dead hard?
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@Bond4ever said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008588#Comment_2008588
Well, I think you should understand that a lot of spirit are jerks, anyways you shouldn't get "bullied" but you can prevent that: If you know they're going to be toxic in the chat, close it.
Oh I've been against jerk spirits but Im most definitely not one of them. I wont tunnel, i won't camp, most of my games are a 9 hook 1 kill, or 10 hook 2 kill, because I try to play fair, as a survivor main myself I know how ######### it is getting tunnelled out and I like a good game. Any one can come right back to hook to down the unhooked, eat their ds and rinse and repeat. But even playing remotely fair you still get the bullshit comments. Seriously can't win either way 😑
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@Bond4ever said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008502#Comment_2008502
You can just close the chat if you dont want to see that, that's all. you know you're gonna get a lot of salt (even if you dont "deserve it") but I think you understand that build isn't that fun to play against...
I personally find undying, ruin, devour, surveillance spirit the most disgusting to go against. My gen slow down is all on me using my pop once the corrupt has ran out. If the gens pop thats my fault. But survivors using whatever they want to win, and a killer doing the same.. somehow I still think the killer gets the worse end of the stick
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@Dizzy1096 said:
"spirit requires no skill just a pair of headphones"
Ever since scott jund put out that first video this has been the line ever since, it's amazing how many sheep can't think for themselves.
Firstly my friend they don't tbag you because you're spirit, regardless of the killer I play I get toxic tbaggers almost every game. Actually scratch that, I get less when I play strong killers because they have some fear. If you use a low-mid tier killer they'll taunt right off the bat.
Survivors say it takes no skill but remember these are the people that will hold W through and around badham school, drop a god pallet, hold w, drop a god pallet, hold w, vault a god window, hold W, vault a god window, hold w and then they'll be like "I looped you bro 😎" as if your m1 killer could do anything about it. They're hypocrites and I say keep doing what you're doing on enjoy their salt. Hit them on hook a little to assert dominance.
I absolutely love this comment. If i could like it twice I would 🤣 i have looked into a survivors face as they died on hook and shook my head at them for their BM in game a few times though
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008472#Comment_2008472
@Pika_Belle I have never met a survivor in-game who liked playing against Spirits. Not once. Bubba is a toss-up for me. I really enjoy Bubba. I know windows are his worst enemy. Just like Oni's is T-walls. I quite enjoy slapping Bubba in the face with a pallet after running him around a loop with his chainsaw in full swing then slapping him without him breaking the pallet. It's just me playing the game for too long. I can time my pallet slams. The only one that I don't do that with is Demo. That Shred seems a bit janky when trying to stun him in mid-Shred. Otherwise, I enjoy the chainsaw Bros. Probably the most fun I ever had in this game. I also really enjoy going against Huntress. Playing OL-AY! as I run from hatchets is incredibly fun. My absolute favorite to go against is Myers and Billy. Myers due to his terror radius and not knowing how close he is to Tier 3 and Billy because that dumb look on his face as he revs XD It just kills me lol.
I once ran a bubba for 4 gens and i got seriously face camped at end game with noed. It was possibly one of the most funny things I've ever experienced 🤣 and we got the GIT GUD comments. But seriously I do enjoy playing against spirits, I feel I learn from them, and also learn more on predicting her myself,because I think,what would I do if I was her? If you get me. Sometimes I think playing her yourself you can get into her head
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@Bond4ever said:
If you consider bullying, playing as good as possible or clicking your flashlight, you shouldn't complain tho... I mean you're using a stridor spirit, what do you expect?
Most people clicking and teabagging aren't good though...and being called numerous things in end game chat is OK though? Because I deserve it clearly.. What do I expect. No one deserves to be called explicit words in end game regardless of what killer they are playing or told to kill themselves. Especially when the survivor is using every second chance perk in the book. But yeah im running spirit with stridor, i deserve it alllllll
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008419#Comment_2008419
@Pika_Belle It's a 2-way street. No one wants to play against something that's unfair and unfun. I'm not saying that have a right to say mean things to people because they don't but at the same time, you need to understand what they have to deal with. (Edit: I have a ton of hateful endgame chats on my videos when I won so some people will act like that no matter the outcome. If it really bothers you that much but its not racial or death threats, turn off endgame chat, or do what I do. Indulge in it and reply with really fun remarks until they get mad and leave.)
I'm also a survivor main, and I've had few frustrating games against spirits unless they come back to hook and hard tunnel. I dont find games against her un enjoyable at all, i actually like them. It's basement bubba that wind me up 🤣
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@valvarez4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008404#Comment_2008404
Of course not. But think of a surv waiting 5-10min for a game and then a spirit appears and hit him twice without any possibility to do anything. It’s frustating and many people can’t work with it
I've had very few miserable games against spirits, unless they tunnel off hook and camp, i usually have a good time
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008398#Comment_2008398
@Pika_Belle I gave you honest and sound reasoning and you revert to, I can play who I want and you just need to git gud (Just change your playstyle with no counters) yet you want people to sympathize with you while you won't do the same for others and the reasons why they dislike the killer? Eh, you're right. Play who you like but if someone doesn't ENJOY playing against a killer with no counters and they manage to beat you, don't come to the forums and wonder why you don't get a lot of support. Good luck on your matches.
I'm not moaning about being beat. I'm moaning about getting abused for playing a killer even if I lose 🤣 I never said get good. I adapt my playing style to go against different killers. Which is the aim of the game. And i dont moan saying needs nerfing. If i get outplayed, I get outplayed. Doesn't give people the right to become nasty bags of washing
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@Koukdw said:
Pipping doesn't matter if anything they should make it harder to pip. So i don't end up in red rank even if i die every game
What I'm saying is I'm losing two pips instead of one for being kicked. When it should only be 1
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@valvarez4 said:
Sorry but spirit is easy as hell. If you don’t agree perhaps you need better headphones
But does that give survivors the right to bully because they lost? Which is what the post is about?
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008372#Comment_2008372
@Pika_Belle It stays the same and its not directional. If I moaned all around you and you couldn't pinpoint me like in the old days, you wouldn't be playing Spirit. Spine Chill is useless against Spirit, by the way. It tells you when a killer is LOOKING at you. Doesn't tell you WHICH direction they are LOOKING at you from, though. Are they looking at your back? Front? Left side? Right Side? At an angle? It gives you a general tell that the Spirit is coming for you but not any real way to tell where at. You still MOAN in a locker. Very loudly, too. Your scratch marks stop immediately as you enter a locker. You can't tell if she's gonna swing immediately when she comes out so Dead Hard isn't reliable for her and I use Dead Hard on all of my builds. Resilience doesn't do much except maybe help vault faster but she'll catch you before you can vault most of the time anyway since you can't tell which SIDE of the vault she's on but she can hear you so she knows. Hope that helps.
I will still say, I can play whoever I like. And I've not had issues playing against spirits myself. Most killers you have to change your playing style with, it's how the game is. If every single game was boring and the same and you had to play the same for every single killer you went against,thenni doubt you would play either. But because of the defense from saying why spirit is "uncountable" I'm sort of getting the vibe that you agree that I should get bullied for playing her. As that is what my post is about
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008315#Comment_2008315
@Pika_Belle All killers have tells. You can try to mindgame the other side with those tells. That's what makes a chase, A CHASE. The greater skilled player prevails. Gives you a rush and makes you feel on top of the world. That goes for either side. Even Wraith has to uncloak, which is his tell that he's close. A Spirit can watch scratch marks. The moment they stop, come out of invisibility. You get a speed boost like Wraith and if they're hurt, you should know if they are below you. I've made guides on her in the past to show how you can tell exactly where someone is with Spirit IF you already M1'd them, which is what you should be doing anyway.
With Spirit, she has 0 tells on her location. I'm not talking about the "husk" noise. That's like saying the survivor moans but its EVERYWHERE around you. How would you like to go invisible then here moans EVERYWHERE and have no way to tell where that survivor is? Would be a bit bullshit wouldn't it? Couldn't see scratch marks, blood and couldn't tell where a survivor is moaning from? Wouldn't be fun to play against, would it? That's how survivors feel. You get 0 tells and since you're hurt, you're a like a giant groaning beacon from about 6-7 meters away and its DIRECTIONAL. You can even tell which side of a pallet they are on while invisible and since you come out so fast, they can't usually react if you stand directly behind them. They can't tell how close you are to them. You have all this info, including corn and grass moving. Survivors can "guess".
Sounds use to NOT be directional and Spirit was almost NEVER played because it was almost impossible to tell where a survivor was while invisible unless following scratch marks THEN you could mindgame a Spirit but the moment they made sounds directional, that became null. I just want a fair match between killers vs survivors. I play both. I know what's unfun. I've played this game for YEARS. I hated Undying/Ruin as a combo. I liked the old Ruin. I hated infinites on Freddys' Map as killer, since if they had Balanced Landing, you just lose. I remember when Bubba was barely faster than you with his chainsaw so you had to literally butt rub someone with it before getting a down. I believe in fairness all around. If you think I'm a killer main, I have videos where destroy Rank 1 killers. If you think I'm a survivor main, I have a ton of video's where I destroy Rank 1 survivors. Spirit has no tells. That's her problem. Give me 1.5 seconds of sound every 2-3 seconds to tell where she's at while phasing near a pallet so I can try to outsmart her. Remember, Spirit has speed add-ons. She's faster than survivors and can stay in her mode for up to 14 seconds with add-ons. If you can't mindgame a survivor because of a quick sound que, you never was good with that killer anyway. You was being carried by an easy killer with no counters but guesses. That's why I advocate for some type of fairness for her.
Also forever freddy with tinkerer... I dont run selfcare. Its a death sentence for the team
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2008315#Comment_2008315
@Pika_Belle All killers have tells. You can try to mindgame the other side with those tells. That's what makes a chase, A CHASE. The greater skilled player prevails. Gives you a rush and makes you feel on top of the world. That goes for either side. Even Wraith has to uncloak, which is his tell that he's close. A Spirit can watch scratch marks. The moment they stop, come out of invisibility. You get a speed boost like Wraith and if they're hurt, you should know if they are below you. I've made guides on her in the past to show how you can tell exactly where someone is with Spirit IF you already M1'd them, which is what you should be doing anyway.
With Spirit, she has 0 tells on her location. I'm not talking about the "husk" noise. That's like saying the survivor moans but its EVERYWHERE around you. How would you like to go invisible then here moans EVERYWHERE and have no way to tell where that survivor is? Would be a bit bullshit wouldn't it? Couldn't see scratch marks, blood and couldn't tell where a survivor is moaning from? Wouldn't be fun to play against, would it? That's how survivors feel. You get 0 tells and since you're hurt, you're a like a giant groaning beacon from about 6-7 meters away and its DIRECTIONAL. You can even tell which side of a pallet they are on while invisible and since you come out so fast, they can't usually react if you stand directly behind them. They can't tell how close you are to them. You have all this info, including corn and grass moving. Survivors can "guess".
Sounds use to NOT be directional and Spirit was almost NEVER played because it was almost impossible to tell where a survivor was while invisible unless following scratch marks THEN you could mindgame a Spirit but the moment they made sounds directional, that became null. I just want a fair match between killers vs survivors. I play both. I know what's unfun. I've played this game for YEARS. I hated Undying/Ruin as a combo. I liked the old Ruin. I hated infinites on Freddys' Map as killer, since if they had Balanced Landing, you just lose. I remember when Bubba was barely faster than you with his chainsaw so you had to literally butt rub someone with it before getting a down. I believe in fairness all around. If you think I'm a killer main, I have videos where destroy Rank 1 killers. If you think I'm a survivor main, I have a ton of video's where I destroy Rank 1 survivors. Spirit has no tells. That's her problem. Give me 1.5 seconds of sound every 2-3 seconds to tell where she's at while phasing near a pallet so I can try to outsmart her. Remember, Spirit has speed add-ons. She's faster than survivors and can stay in her mode for up to 14 seconds with add-ons. If you can't mindgame a survivor because of a quick sound que, you never was good with that killer anyway. You was being carried by an easy killer with no counters but guesses. That's why I advocate for some type of fairness for her.
But spirit does have a sound queue out of her terror radius you hear the vaccum sound. It gets louder as she is closer to you. Her phase is only silent in her terror radius. My build is spine chill, resilience, quick and quiet and dead hard. Im a looper, and i dont usually have issues looping a spirit. I can usually tell if she is coming through the pallete so drop it on her head during phase, because I listen for the sound of phasing i know she is close or I know to get that fast vault. Also the whole directional sound queue from survivors is a lil i dont know the word, "weird" when I'm pretty sure most sound systems are dolby 7.1 surround. Are we not supposed to play with sound now
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
Spirit is easy, while Stridor Spirit is the soul reason why most survivors suicide on first hook. She has no tells and no counters. Made plenty of arguments in the past but I always get, git gud. I AM GOOD. I also play all killers. I do youtube videos of DBD. I do GUIDES on how to play KILLERS at Rank 1. I play survivors a ton also. I show how to juke each killer. Spirit is probably the most unfun thing you can go against. It's not your skill that matters, its how good their headphones are and if you get a lucky guess while they can literally pinpoint you accuracy with moans.
I personally find forever freddy the most unfun killer to go against tbh. I'm a survivor main and i dont moan if I face a spirit and especially with stridor, because I understand she needs sound to get her downs. I usually get a good run, and playing her myself I know how to juke a good spirit. The people saying she is easy and requires no skill probably havent even played her themselves especially in a red rank lobby and have no intention of ever learning to juke, and just moan about her. But the same works for every killer, the juking only works for so long before you get downed
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@Todessense said:
I am better with Nurse than with stridor spirit and i am on console, where nurse is even harder.
They always claim Spirit is easy to play as an excuse to get toxic but she isnt easy to play. She might be easier than others but she is still hard to master and you need a good sense even if you got a good headset.
Keep playing her.
I'm currently learning nurse on a new account to go from rank 20 because if I try play her on my usual account the bullying there is horrific too 😑
It's so easy to mess up a phase as spirit, then your vulnerable while waiting for that recharge. At red ranks time is everything. But we should always 4k easily remember, and not use perks that are of any use to us, but survivors can use whatever they like 🙃
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@lassfroobynoo said:
Survivors and killers alike will be rude regardless of how you played or who you played. DBD is a very tilting game and a lot of people who play it are not able to process and control their tilt, especially in the endgame chat. You could play Wraith no perks no addons and someone will complain. Like if you didn't have Stridor they would still say you didn't earn your victory because Spirit takes no skill. Don't sweat it and if you have fun playing Spirit keep playing her, you paid for the game and the DLC you can play it however you want to. People can't expect everyone to just never pick the strong killers cuz they're "not fun to play against" like that's ridiculous.
You have to play the top tier killers at red ranks, the lower tier killers have miserable games because most play with their friends as a two man. You need the mobility to scour the map and pressure gens especially when they keep sending you to corn or red forest 😑 so they get even more of an advantage
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@Clevite said:
I love Spirit, but you are probably not going to get a lot of sympathy in game or on these forums for running Stridor Spirit .
As far as why people text and criticize something that is in the game, well that is psychological discussion that probably has to do with an inflated ego.
Usually if I swap out stridor, I will get a 4 man of iron wills and still get told GG EZ 🤣
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@ProfGameAndTalk said:
Do your thing, pal, and don't let the salt get you down. I had a SWF squad last night unhooking right in front of me and sliding back at me after a pallet stun. It was satisfying to slug them all and watch them DC as I wandered back and forth between them. I don't slug like that unless I'm getting BM from them, and it is very satisfying.
The funny thing is when you reciprocate the bad manners then you get called the ass hole 😂