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@GoshJosh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037433#Comment_3037433
Survivor main here, don't play Nurse too much (just dailies and Rift challenges); and yet it's obvious for me that she is still balanced. Do I really need to copy paste the same thing every thread? So annoying.
- Slowest base movement speed of all killers - the only to actually move slower than a running survivor
- Gives clear audio and visual cues of all she is doing
- Fatigue after every blink (longer for a missed attack)
- Blink charge time
- Blink recharge time
- Heavily punished for miscalculating a blink
- Fairly add-on dependent (particularly for inexperienced Nurse players)
Yet she seems to be only balanced to You, cause everyone and their mother complains about her, hell, Even nurse mains admit she has a little too much going for her, don't be delirant.
Maybe you're the gigabrain from this forum that knows how to counter her, please enlighten us.
And funny how with all those """""downsides""""" She's the Best killer in the Game by A LOT, funny, don't u think so?
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@pharos said:
Dev seems to forget they have an out-of-spec killer called Nurse
Think what the future holds, u will play against Nurse with Jolt without cooldown + Soopy butcher + Thanatophobia and other fantasy perks , and u need 90s to do a gen basicly , once u get hit u need 45S to selfcare. Otherwise, the next time the nurse sees you, you're basically waiting to lie down.
Nurse can fly through all the map ,hit one surv and then back to the hook repeatedly. No one can unhook and the gens can not fix .
This is the biggest problem of the game
They perfectly know She's op, but they're scared from the 5 nurses in the forum lmao
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037673#Comment_3037673
Correct, mob mentality does not make you right.
And u lying to urself doesnt make u right either.
Can't wait for the forum to be spammed when nurse get nerfed, it Will be so good they have to play the Game just like us, after 6 years
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037652#Comment_3037652
More evidence-free rebuttals. Man, I can't help you.
Guess we're all here wrong on this thread, and the 2 nurses main in this thread are right. The irony. It's just so fun to watch nurses defend her like if they're gonna lose their family, yet she's probably getting nerfed because people refuse to play against her (which I dont agree with, cause everyone deserves to play, but it's understable)
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037565#Comment_3037565
In the second video, it's illustrating a point many of us try to make. In the first couple minutes alone: survivor is for whatever reason still on a 50% gen when the Nurse is within 15m of her, proceeds to get hit over a window on a basic attack, and then runs back into the Nurse. A series of genuinely awful plays. You have to play well on survivor to escape Nurse. That doesn't mean she's broken, but it unfortunately makes her a bit unique.
I guess the nurse won because those survivors were "bad" seems to be nurse is the only killer you're not able to do mistakes, yet she's able to do so and gets little to no punishment. If u want "Great" survivors vs a great nurse then here it is (even tho I said I wasnt going to post 0.1% vids)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpECkjf-Ejo -
@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037630#Comment_3037630
These aren't excuses, no matter how hard you try to frame them as such. Nurses, mine included, lose all the time when matched against survivors of proper skill and coordination. We also win all the time when immature survivors DC and spoil the efforts of their team.
The difference between Nurse and Spirit is that the Spirit trolls were wrong, and she was nerfed. These strategies that the Nurse players recommend in every one of these damn threads do work, all the way up to comp. They're the very same tools we use to beat Nurses when we're playing survivor.
Spirit trolls are just the same nurse players. And if those pretty easy to master strategies work, why do nurses still 4k and when people apply them they dont work? If those strategies work why is nurse still the 4k stomper of tournaments?
And if u lose against players of "same skill" as yours, maybe you're not as good as you think you are?
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@Huge_Bush said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037477#Comment_3037477
And she struggles against top SWF, your point? Solo players not willing to adapt, improve and generally being bad at the game is not a reason to nerf her. They shouldn't be facing them in the first place, but that issue has nothing to do with her power and everything to do with the crap matchmaking and lack of killer diversity since players don't want to get bullied playing Trapper and Pig.
No one here is talking about pig and trapper, some killers being weak dont justify her being a broken mess.
And no, I have never seen a TOP nurse struggle against a TOP swf (from the tournaments i have seen) Solo players are not refusing to adapt, it's just nurse is uncounterable in solo. You just seem to blinded by bias, just like DH users used to defend this broken mess of a perk
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037565#Comment_3037565
This is evidence? Survivors allowing a Nurse to autopilot because they are:
- Running in straight lines
- Fast vaulting right infront of Nurse who doesn't even have a blink charged
- Never ONCE doubling back or changing their angle on the second blink
- Actually, I think I saw a single player double back 2-3 times, yet even he seemed to have an allergic reaction to using LOS blockers properly
- Sitting in dead zones when it's very obvious the killer has BBQ
- Running into the Nurse for no damn reason
This SWF couldn't beat Nurse, they couldn't even beat Pig. And still, we are at an impasse because a single game does not constitute evidence. It never has, it never will. I don't know how to make that anymore black and white for you.
And now I genuinely believe you're trolling. Those survivors were utter lemmings.
Yeah, let's just find every excuse possible, If the nurse gets the 4k is because "She's perfectly balanced and survivor were bad" but if she gets completely destroyed is because the SWF was so OP they out skilled her but not because she did mistakes.
Most of those "Counters" isnt gonna work against a good nurse cause they already expect it.
These counters just remind me to what the spirit mains used to say:
"Just vault the window, and vault it back"
"Just dont fall for the mindgame"
"Guess where she is"
"Double back"
These never worked against a good spirit and that's why she got a well deserved nerf.
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@Ruma said:
she need her addons nerfed but theres no need to disable her lol
yeah i think it's a little too much, but we all know survivors will be even more weaker in the mid chapter patch, and they will have less tools to fight against nurse, so we can just see what's gonna happen.
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@HelloKitty2022 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037565#Comment_3037565
Right and if you follow the discussion you see it might be not just a loud minority. Just that many players endure it does not mean they actively support it.
It is not a loud minority, people are just realizing that nurse mains are just lying to themselves and us for almost 5 years by using the excuse that she's "hard to play" and that's why she's perfectly fine, and since most of us haven't mastered her yet we didn't realize how OP she was.
Nurse mains are just way too loud when it comes to crying, she got a cooldown back in 2019 and they almost killed themselves, yet we all know that didnt do ######### to her, I dont take nurse mains seriously anymore cause most of them used to defend the omega blink and 5 blinks addons, lmao
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@Aven_Fallen said:
The Devs are not stupid, they know that Nurse is broken and should not exist like this anymore. They would also never create a Killer like her (and if I am not mistaken, they also said this in a Livestream at some point).
However, they are too scared to rework her because of the backlash.
So, you should not expect anything. Sadly she is the broken thing from the past which is allowed to exist.
Yeah, they said that on stream, and also that nurse is basically not allowing them to create powerful perks to other killers, cause blight and nurse are holding them back.
Maybe they dont want to nerf her so they dont repeat the shitshow that happend with spirit nerf.
Amazes me how everything from survivors back in 2016/2017 got butchered, yet nurse is still here.
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@Freddy96 said:
It will take months before they do something, inb4 might aswell play nurse yourself with double range and enjoy all the skills overflowing out of yourself
that's what im doing, i have like 100 hours on her? I think. It's so fun to stack 4 slowdowns + range addons + bp cakes, but so miserable to play against.
I consider myself a decent nurse, and most of the time I win against solos, I only struggle against well-coordinated SWF and im stll able to get a 2k
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@[Deleted User] said:
We know very little about Nurse (or any killer's) performance right now. The lack of MMR transparency means it's all conjecture and speculation on our part when we talk about killer strength.
We don't know that solos struggle against Nurse in balanced matches. We don't know that SWF struggles against Nurse in balanced matches. We don't know what Nurse's kill rates are in matches where all players are within 50-100 MMR points.
But devs know and they dont say anything.
And from what we can see, if solos struggle against blight, do you think they're gonna perform any better against a decent nurse?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLZK17GU7_A&t=196s@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037542#Comment_3037542
Feel free to present that evidence. We will be waiting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2uywpN-tn0
I tried not to use "TOP 0.1% Nurse videos" cause we all know those are weird to go against, but regular nurses that we go against most of the time (with op ######### like starstruck, 4 slowdowns, slugging builds, range addons or endgame builds)
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037508#Comment_3037508
You're missing the part where there was multitudes of evidence to the rampant, overused nature of DH.
Key word, evidence. Not one offs of petty survivors DCing in an attempt to inflate the kill rate of a killer they don't like.
We are not responsible for your inability to adapt.
Dont get me wrong, DH needed to be nerfed. And DH had as much evidence as nurse has right now to be nerfed.
It's just that the same 5 nurse come from the wood to defend their op toy like if their life depends on it.
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@HelloKitty2022 said:
Why not giving every surv the option to refuse one killer? In LoL you refuse one Hero too and wont get matched with him. Or are they afraid this would kill the nurse sooner or later? Lets be honest.
Survs already do this by suiciding on hook
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3037481#Comment_3037481
Or maybe they had real, fact based, compelling arguments.
So nurse arguments are not real?
A killer that's able to break the game fundamental shouldn't be in the game. Playing nurse is like playing a total different game, I remember back then when she got disabled a streamer (which im not gonna say his name) that played nurse 24/7 had to play different killers so his channel doesnt die, and you would think "if he's a god with nurse he should be good with every other killer"
Guess what? He got stomped most of the time, cause he was playing like a baby killer.
Nurse is something from 2016 that shouldnt be in the 2022 DBD.
And no, her being "hard" doesnt justify her being this overpowered - broken mess of a killer. If anything billy is way harder to master than her.
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@foxsansbox said:
It's literally the same 25 people on 25 different threads. There isn't an influx, in people, just more vehement screeching.
It worked for DH, hopefully it does to nurse. Any nerf is well deserved on her.
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@Mewishis said:
Did they disable Legion when everyone was complaining they were op right after the rework? Did they disable blight when Nurse was disabled and everyone moved to instantly complain about blight? Did they disable dredge after everyone started complaining they had no counterplay and looping was impossible? No.
People will complain about anything I think the developers are used to it by now not to do kneejerk reactions making changes to things just because a very vocal few want to spam threads every day. Otherwise, a lot of things would have made bad or unfun like even endgame collapse was complained about heavily for a time and it was a great change lol.
Seems to be the echo chamber and thread spam only works for killers, look they got DH nerfed and at the same time they Made DS and IW hot garbage
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@Huge_Bush said:
No she doesn’t. She’s one of two killers who can stand a chance against SWF sweat squads. When the devs finally balance around SWF and make maps more balanced with 50/50 loops and not the size of the Sahara Desert, she shouldn’t be touched.
Oh yes, cause solo players don't exist.
Even top SWF struggle against her
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What do killers get? A camping and tunneling buff, lmao
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@TheArbiter said:
Nah nerf Pig
Hold on, let us buff nurse and nerf deathslinger in the same patch
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@Sadako_Best_Girl said:
lmao a bunch of people complaining will not make them disable an entire character.
Maybe longer queues Will make them nerf her or disable her.
Someone please look for a Game breaking Bug related to her, so she gets disable for 1 Month again, lmao
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@fulltonon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036521#Comment_3036521
Then probably nurse doesn't need a nerf, because non-tournament nurses are nothing to be scared of.
You don't have to be a tournament nurse to be a 4k stomper.
Tournament nurse is just the Cherry on top.
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@GoshJosh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036107#Comment_3036107
At least I can heal against a Nurse. Plague disables an entire function in the game, like a third of survivor perks and medkits, and gets free health states just because of her basekit. Real neat!
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036241#Comment_3036241
Source? She was already nerfed to be balanced years ago.
With all the complaining shes getting, i'm pretty sure She's getting nerfed.
And she isnt balance, and her being "hard" to play doesnt justify her being this broken mess.
Only nurse mains defend her.. this gives me old spirit flashbacks
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@Tsulan said:
Off the Record and the new Endurance meta say otherwise.
If killers cry enough it isnt gonna make it to live