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  • i understand but again survivors would have to be forced to have some more interactions with the killer for win a game..by only gen rushing in 2 minutes they cant win the game.i tried to put pressure but sometime you are unable to spot a survivor in time they all had the cat perk and urban evasion..i had litterally no perks...i would like 3 things in this game for killers.

    1)fixing survivor premade team and specially exploit allowing em to have a low rank killer opponent by opening the room witha smurf

    2) killer balance...no need nerf nurse and spirit just boost a lot all killers unable to perform decently..clown,pig and other

    3)high limitations to swf perks ,they can have max 1 perk per person and killers get double BP for challenging em (challenging high rank opponents with voice communication when you are a low rank kilelr is just impossible)

  • i would be for show the rank of players but not the SWF,showing the player rank is enough when you are a killer as rank 15 and you see opponents rank1 rank 1 rank 2 rank 15 you dodge cause the match is unfair and they are exploiting the system...i think would be possible create a off game search list with all players stats and rank .It would encourage the survivors to play fair without let a low rank survivor open the room for exploit the matchmaking system.

  • still i would like hear it from a dev or staff that using rank 20 smurf and inviting 3x rank 1 for have a killer rank 20 opponent isnt a system exploit :).Honestly if a DEV tell its legit and its allowed for rank 1 survivors to have permanently a rank 20 killer opponent using this exploit then i accept it..and i also stop reporting every premade group using this exploit.

  • yes need more punishment for dcer...best solution would be put a person dc 5 times in 2 weeks in a separate queau list with other dcer and they play with eachother for 2 months.

  • just realize sometime you can't win,high rank swf teams right now are using a cheat exploit for get baby killer opponents and very often it is going to happen to you,if you realize some survivors seem to much good for your rank or start bully you just log off so they lose pip.If you are able to grab someone and there is only 1 or 2 gen left then try face camping ,sometime from a face camp in a lost game you can get a 4k also against swf exploters with multiple rank 1.NOED help but generally against exploiters that are rank 1-2-3 is pointess they destroy totems before of finish last gen.When the game will be fixed then your strategy will change and you will enjoy more playing as killer against opponents with your same skills.


  • @LCGaster said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/603558#Comment_603558

    That's...not what I meant

    Those problems have been there since launch

    What I meant were the extremely long queue waiting times

    it all depend from the matchmaking system that is currently horrible...making dedicated servers maybe would make the game more stable ,right now the algorhitm is wrong doesnt considerate the rank at all...its as if in league of legends you are a diamond player and you are matched costantly against bronze player its obvious the diamond dude will destroy every bronze ...and the bronze will quit the game...now 1% players is diamond the 99% is bronze...guess who bring money to the company?-This company is doing harakiri totally by not fixing a simple matchmaking for make happy them real customers that are not nerd rank 1-2 playing all the day but casual players.A casual player killer or solo survivor getting matched constantly with opponents 19 tiers highers quit the game.Its not the waiting time..that isnt so long as killer maybe 3-4 minutes on steam..problem is whole matchmaking .Fixing huge exploits and fail mechanics must be the main big priority for every company...minor graphic glitches can to wait but noob players getting matched with top 0.5% players in game on everygame must be the main priority .

  • just dont make stupid things as bully a killer with buttdances and infinite loops and if you are abusing of party exploit for get low opponents killer then you deserve it :;).Generally killers dont quit the games..survivors do it because queau for killers is much longer.

  • killer job require real skills and daptive ability..survivor job is easy..and right now with the rank exploit more of survivors also abd can get to rank 1 in few hours by playing with friend low rank and getting killers rank 20...best skilled streamers play killer for this reason..people figured out big looper survivor streamer(not doing names) play on alt against rank 20 killers or use the rank exploit with friends.

  • ghostface cause you cant get him with shards and he is good

  • @LCGaster said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/603512#Comment_603512

    I hope

    Just please don't release another paragraph instead of a chapter, it will screw up matchmaking like when GF got released

    matchmaking is alreayd embarrassing probably worse matchmaking system in a online game ever in the history :) three rank1 survivors+one rank 20 survivor vs rank 20 killer is the current meta gaming in dbd :).IF you are playing solo survivor and you are rank 16-17 you are matched against a rank 1-2 killer cause all low tier killers are busy in games with rank exploiter survivors.

  • top priority right now for the -DEV team would be fix the group matchmaking exploit that allow low rank people(often smurf) to invite high rank friends and get ALWAYS a low rank killer as opponent..game right now is unplayable i spent a good ammount money for buy all bundles and some skins and i cant play right now due to be matched against red rank people exploiting your game.( the exploit is so popular now if you are rank 13-20 you always get red name people survivor opponents)

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  • last 10 games always premade always 1-2-3 red ranks and a low rank smurf they also make fun when you threat of report saying its legit then they insult you all the time and then call you noob or other insult......i think its time the DEV really start to fix that before 1/2 community quit or other companies make same game without this sorta embarrassing exploit..10 games in a row also today all red rank people .Freddy update is pointless if you dont fix that exploit asap and mayeb give 2-3 days ban to people are using non stop it now...because 100% groups are doing that now.

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  • @Seanzu said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/602258#Comment_602258

    What? It's clear you have no idea what a lie is, making assumptions doesn't mean I'm lying, lmfao.

    To get the same advantages as those perks you'd have to be talking constantly with no breaks to apparently relay all of this information at once, which is what perks do and comms doesn't gg try again.

    SWF is easy, once bad killers start to get better at the game we'll be fine.

    bad killers?yea with current matchmaking and party group exploit is so easy get a rank 20 killer also if you are rank 1 survivor :).....top rank killers get low lvl survivors cause all other red survivors use the group exploit for get bad killers low rank :).Best part is the dev update freddy and dont fix the matchmaking allowing the room creator in a premade to get a killer of hsi same rank.....Rank 20 smurf create room and invite 3 rank 1,start the game and the killer is rank 20...yea....very balanced and fun the whole game is a joke right now..new players that would bring money for the company quit due to this issue.

  • ash mechanic need a reworks..his character and all his perks..he could be a sorta of lure characters with some specific perks allow him to survive

  • some players prefer use controller over keyboard and mouse also on steam..depend on play style

  • when in 3 days i got only premade team survivor opponent with red rank/purple players and 1 low rank mean its a very popular method for cheat,or are you trying to say its normal for tier 1-2-3-4 players have always ONE rank 17-18-19-20 in group?.

  • In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, speed or level design etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.(by wiki)


    by allowing a low rank person to create room and then invite high rank players for have a low rank killer opponent you are exploting the game system for get an ingame advantage..so yes playing using this method is cheating and can be reported.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    It's been going on for a while, and it just makes the game less fun for everyone. There's no foolproof way to tell the party composition of the survivors before a match, so killers overcompensate (can't blame them) after SWF bully sessions and make the game miserable for a group of solos. The devs can't keep their heads buried in the sand on the SWF issue.

    Killers hate it. Solos hate it. There are a lot of SWF that aren't doing is smurf. There's nothing wrong with wanting to play with your friends. But it's still often a massive advantage for the survivors to be on comms. And a few bad apples ruin the bunch. It just feels like killers and solo survivors are always compensating for and feeling the effects of SWF.

    Just making common sense changes would help. Make the matchmaking go off of the highest ranked survivor in the group. Give a BP bonus to killers after the match if they get steamrolled by a 4 stack. But continuing to do nothing in the face of constant, consistent feedback is a bad look.

    perfect reply! bp bonus for killer challenging SWF and the killer is always same rank as the highest rank in SWF team..in this way would be all balanced ,the killer would have a nice challange with a premade team using voip and coordinate actions,the SWF would have a fair challange against a killer with proper skills adapt to the group.I would say 20% more bp if its 2 people SWF ,30% for 3 and 40% for 4 people SWF.If its 2 groups of two then its always 40%

  • problem is huge last days number of red names in my games seem to increase ,today 6 games always red names inside rank 1-5 lot russian and people with weird names ...i start to be enough skilled against those people but i can see a new killer or someone playing very laid back and casual to rage quit when those guys start to loop or do weird things ....the problem is really big..a red name cant go against yellow killers its as to put a diamond player in league of legends against a silver player...in this specific match the rank 4-11 and 16(smurf probably another red) were in same team and the 16 started the game.

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  • @Cymer said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/600604#Comment_600604

    so you put 3 plat player with a bronze friend against a silver/gold player. You 3 plat just rekt the enemy team.

    Here you put 3 plat with a bronze friend against a silver/gold killer. guess what, you ruin the fun of an entire party.

    It's nice that you agree.


    in league of legends 1 diamond player+4 bronze players can win against a 5 platinum 4 team ,1 single player can carry whole team to victory..in dbd its also more real 1 tier 1 player can litterally outplay a killer and loop him or rush hex generators help team mates ,can easily carry a team.I'm rank 13 killer now playing against rank 1-5 players(from the rank 20) so in the end its not to much bad because i start to get always 2-3 kills everygame playing dirty with NOED i'm learning in the hard way....but man those survivors rank 1 insult you so hard every game ..today one said i was going to be banned for tunneling haha... i can see a normal killer doing 0 kill every damn game due to this matchmaking quitting the game...right now i can fight those exploiters with freddy and dream pallets they seem to be efefctive on those cocky exploiters .

  • no speed penalty while leatherface use his chainsaw and he autodestroy the pallets while charging his chainsaw ! lets go to make a good update

  • @TheBean said:

    @Pulsar Yeah well that isn't those players fault.

    This issue is actually 100% the developer's fault in this case.

    They had this issue corrected using the average of the SWF lobby way back in Oct 2016 in patch 1.2.2.

    When they put in the new Match Making system they didn't even bother looking at the existing system to see what needed to be carried over.

    If BHVR is losing players cause of this, then they should fix it. How long has the new Match Making been in place now? When was that Developer Update put out that mentioned they will be taking the average of the SWF lobby.

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    All this was addressed over two years ago.

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    The Freddy Rework has been put out.... Did we see this issue corrected yet? No.

    honestly this issue is around 1000x more important than the freddy update :)....the 90 % community is around rank 9-20 if they make the matchmaking unplayable as is now a good 50% of those players will find other games for spend money and time over.

  • @Cymer said:

    There is a long history of posts that advocate for SWFs be matched with their top ranked members and not the average.

    It's old news.

    Other games like LoL matches you with slightly higher mmr opponents if you play with friends to balance the matches.


    in lol we are talking of platinum 4 matched with platinum 3...here we are ranking of rank 1-2 players matched with rank 19 20 killers :) its as match a lol bronze player with a platinum 1 player...guess what is going to happen?and do you think the bronze player will be happy and will continue playing the game?.


  • @TheBean said:

    @Raven87

    TBH I'm usually playing solo, I'd say about 95% of my matches. I only got a few people on my friends list that actually play this game anymore.

    I do and have used it that "exploit". Why not?

    I want more bloodpoints... I don't care about the challenge... I've played for over 3000 hours in this game over 3 years... I don't care if I win or lose... I just want some bloodpoints, and if I can milk them from a baby killer than why not?

    Who wants to play in a high rank match that ends in 5 minutes and you get 10K when you can get over 20K playing in a low rank match in 10 minutes.

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    This game isn't just about winning and losing it is about having fun. There is no fun in the high ranks, not for me anymore.

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    If the Devs put in silly rules like using the lobby's creator for Match Making, when they had it working using the average for over two years... Then I don't expect people to not "exploit" this.

    It is 100% the developer fault in this case.

    Someone who was tasked to create a new match making system, never even bothered to look at the existing rules of the previous match making system.

    your post is the reason the development team would have to fix quickly game issues and clear exploits and ban..people as you selfish only care for them own stuff..and of course abuse of every system legit and illegal for get advantages :) thats a clear example of toxic player and bad person in general.Exploiting is always illegal so getting a rank 20 for open the room and invite top tier player is exploiting isnt playing with friends :).

  • anyway i opened the topic due to frustration i counted games in last 3 days 16...playing as trapper and billy and hag and freddy rank 15...all 16 games i had premade team opponents , in all 16 games there was ONE rank 16-17survivor and 3x rank 1-3 survivors.Its not a matter of 1-2 games this type exploit seem to be very popular.

  • @TheBean said:

    @Raven87 Cya later then.

    Someone is worried they are going to be the butt end of some crappy youtube video or twitch clip.

    LULS

    you are probably one of those survivors abusing and exploiting this system for your rank :) and you are scared of dont challange anymore baby killers in your games and lose .

  • so Elusive on your opinion can we report the premade groups with all top rank 1-2 and one rank 20 matched against a rank 15 -20 killer?for exploiting abuse?or the game is supposed to work in this way and nothing can be done?so i got a good reason for quit

  • i see this topic only now to,i want give my personal experience as rank 15 killer,i had 16 games in a row against ftw groups and avarage rank was 1-5 with always a rank 20 survivor in group ,the room creator was apparently always the rank 20 survivor smurf and they were rotating it for ank up (3 people in those groups endgame told me)...now i would want know what is the problem with the current matchmaking because i understand 1 or 2 games but 16 in a row...i play on steam anyway.

  • @BBQnDemogorgon said:

    @altruistic You do know if you invited your rank 20 friends instead of you joining them it wouldn't be an exploit?

    The exploit is intentionally having the low rank start the invite process. Thats what gives low rank killers.

    If 3 ranks 1s ask a rank 20 to invite it will give a rank 20 killer.

    If the rank 1s invite the rank 20 it'll give a rank 1 killer.

    Thats why its an exploit.


    some famous twitch and youtube "stars" use this method now for make videos and bully new killer with infinite loop or walking close and endgame hide the list or quickly exit..they always rank up witha smurf friends rank 20 creating the room...

  • solution would be very simple..for SWF groups the killer must be always same rank as the best rank person in team..thats a simple and fast fix to this major exploit..i'm not saying everyone is using this method for exploit the game " altruistic" but there are lot people abuse of this system.Exploit define :to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage .Doesnt matter if you are using hack or no if you get an unfair advantage you are using a exploit.

  • no currently the matchmaking for survivors is based on room creator rank..if creator is rank 20 then killer is around same rank als if his other 3 etam mates are rank 1...you can experiment by yourself.

  • so are you saying it is fair a rank 20 killer playing the game from 2 or 3 days play against people rank 1-2-3-4 ?and endgame get also insults and brag #########?because its what happening everytime...how you would feel to be a new player and deal with that?