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You will get to the point to see how unplayable the game has become on both sides :)
There are S tier killers that are totally unbeatable with thei own META kit.
Same for survivors, if you do not play an S tier killer, good survivors will totally destroy you without even being good at the game.
This game has become a mess.
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@supersonic853 said:
Yeah idk how difficult it is to look at least used perks and just number buff them. If dark devotion already has 45 seconds in the code. Is it that difficult to go in and make it 50 for instance? I would think thats very easy to do 1 person could even do it. Like the doctor shock thing wasnt even much of a animation change we talking 0.05 so lol. If they even just did that id be happy. And they get 3 months to do this. It just feels like miss management if they cant have someone at least number tweaking.
173 survivor perks, 145 killer perks.
Maps' sizes/layouts that differ way too much from one another.
Killers that range from trash tier to OP tier.
That's the answer, game is impossible to balance now without a complete overhaul. -
No, the most underwhelming reveal since Skull Merchant.
There is nothingfresh about this killer, it isliterally a revamped Springtrap…
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@Sp00kyb0b said:
Most if the few BHVR members that do actually play, are survivor mains.. just saying. If they just had game testers if each role, a lot of issues might have been solved before they arise. But ofc. most people playing 80-90% of one side will be biased and think its ok.
BHVR is balancing the game around stats they gather. They do not look at tournament or high skilled SWF play. If they would balance around SWFs, 80% of the survivors would stop to play the game.
It is not a BHVR problem, it is an entilted community problem.
The balance is as it is because killers are tunneling more and more. I have played 10 matches lastly and 8 out of 10 was against a killer tunneling at 5 gens.
I'm a high MMR killer, i mostly play around 3 gening/zoning and i get 8 to 10 hooks on average in pub. Against good SWFs it is extremely hard but i mostly get a ton of hooks WITHOUT tunneling.If BHVR decreases the pallet density, rebalance the maps/perks to buff killers (balancing around SWFs), killers would still tunnel as hard as they do today.
Why ? Because players are now relying on cheap game design exploit to win. The meritocracy is dead in the current generation of players, they want instant wins without even learning to play so they will proxy-camp and tunnel unless BHVR decides that's a bannable offense.
Camping and tunneling is as cheap as camping a corner in an FPS game, totally ridiculous, uninteresting and unskiller but hey they are high MMR even though they do not play the game at all :)
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@Abbzy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4081210#Comment_4081210
It was easier, killers had better tools too back in the day so both sides had busted things but mostly there was no mmr, loose matchmaking which only matched people by rank which wasnt even that good as todays mmr so you had more space for randomness but today compare to old matchmaking this one is holding you in shackles compare to old one and makes the games significantly harder.
No antitunnel or anticamp had huge power over survivor getting killed compare to todays state where m1 killers are even in endgame cooked unless they run perks like STBFL so killer like hag was actualy nightmera but today its joke.
This plus opponents in same level or slightly higher in skill makes it today much faster phased and harder especialy against better survivors who got so sence.
Before mmr I had quite rich and wide matchmaking but I stoped playing before they add it and after I played with it I had chicken senced survivors which runn in straight lines like chickens to kfc but then I won a lot logicaly and it become harder and harder which wasnt thing before only thing that amkes killer better nowdays is no more busted perks (unless it fully stacked swf like in picture on my previous post) like mft or FTP+buckle up and another busted combos or addons thats onlything thats easier on killer nowdays.
Pallets are still somewhere cracked since two previous 2v8 where something went wrong (theres post about it …..
Sure... Pallet Density was reverted and it's OK now.)where its shown how some places are still safe heavens where killers without very strong antiloops cant do much and get cooked by good loopers which you face more nowdays thanks to mmr than back in the day in comparison.
I wouldnt say killer got easier something did but other things didnt only thing thats out is frustration from busted things like og dead hard,ds and other busted perks and addons or map loops (well except 15 another pallets left from some leak in spagheti code from 2v8) but thats it, gens take more time but are done actualy faster nowdays then they did back in the day where they had 70-80 seconds of base repeair time, killer perks or more specific the best ones got weaker too like corrupt,dead lock, pop, pain res, ruin and many other meat perks got solid nerfs or restrictions which they didnt have back in the day.
4 years ago there was no way to get 2k + 10 hooks without tunneling or stacking gen regress perks.
Today i do this everyday, survivors are terrible, they mostly have no skill at all in chase. Killer is easy cause the community is unskilled.MMR was launched in 2021, so 4 years ago MMR existed and was tighter.
Well, you do not know what you are talking about, drop it. -
@Classic_Rando said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4033810#Comment_4033810
Honest question - do you actually play killer? You should try it sometime. I think you’ll find that it’s more difficult than you think.
Killer has never been as easy as it is today unless you playagainst SWFs.
You should have played the game 4 years ago to see what it was to play against soloQ veterans every game. Survivors are awful now.
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Pretty much 80% of the killer mains are tunneling right at the start of the match, do not say that you see much pallets 😂
Killer players should start to play fair, tank down the kill rate to 15/20% at high MMR and maybe BHVR will aknowledge that there is a balance problem.
For now on you all camp and tunnel as if 1 millions $ was involved in the trials you play, artificially inflating your MMR (yes) and the kill rate inducing more buff for survivors. -
The community is not waiting for a new licensed killer, we are all waiting for the devs fixing the game actually.
DbD skill ceiling is so low nopw, on both sides that the gameplay is extremely stale. Killers are camping and tunneling in every games. Survivors or pre-running/pre-dropping all the time, there is no more skill involved.
There are many frame hicups now, bugs etc…
Too many perks.
Totally unbalanced maps that have nothing to do in the game (Gideon, Forgotten Ruins, Midwich).
Unfun killer to play against (and by unfun i mean that eeryone would DC if they were allowed to) : Kaneki, Krasue, Legion, Twins, TricksterWell, if i was a company like BHVR with such a good concept of a game with great licences, i would do anything to have a perfect game, it looks like it is not really their priority.
Even all influencers are starting to say bad things about DbD, it was totally inconceivable 2 years ago.
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@Wezqu said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4078123#Comment_4078123
There is no real drop there is just the normal fluctuation that you can see with this game. With the currently going one it clearly brought more players in as before the event started the 27th day the peak was little bit under 60000 players and the highest peak during the event is 83000 players. The lowest peak during the event has been about 64000. So even the lowest peak beats the peak of the day before 2v8 started. That 83000 peak is also the highest player count in the game in last 30 days.
The drop is clear and in-between there is an increase of the playerbase. And no, with the current 2v8 the decrease is even worst than before.
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@Mooks said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4078107#Comment_4078107
i could not see a huge decline that wasnt there at same times before 2v8 (there is always trend with player count going down in between chapters/new content)
Though i haven’t checked every iteration of 2v8 as i couldnt find a Site that listed the dates
but you already checked it - can you point it out for me please?Sure, here are the infos :
And here is the playerbase :
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@TohsakaMine said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4078058#Comment_4078058
You want to base it on steam charts, yet steam charts literally prove my point. Looking at the time of 4-5 NA east the player count on DBD gets cut in half to even below half. Thats not a regional thing, that's all of steam and that's a pretty good reflection as to how the games player count is. Again, a majority of players are in NA, and when its 4-5am est 1-2am pst the player counts are significantly impacted. Proving my initial point.....
The majority of players are in Europe… Biggest streamers = Europe… Peak time = end of the day in EU
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@Mooks said:
i don’t think half the Player base are complaining though - but maybe i am wrong.. where did you get this number?
Last i remember, surveys usually reveal that a majority of players want 2v8.
but lets say it is half of the players: why would they completely stop 2v8 when its only a temporary mode to accomodate the other half of the Community?
and is matchmaking working for you outside of 2v8? Do you actually get matched with players on your skill level??Evertime there is a 2v8 event, the steamchart clearly shows a huge decrease in the number of players (go check). A game mode that hurt queue times so much for one part of the playerbase is not healthy.
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All last killers are OP when they try hard and use busted perks combination.
Playing against a killer that has fast travel, short chases (cause strong anti loop power) with Ruin + Undying + PR = you cannot do gens at all unless you play in SWF.
The reverse is also true, a killer has pretty much not a single chance to winagainst an otpimal SWF.
The game state is miserable because of the META. Perks/addo-ons and items are shifting way too much the balance of the game.
DbD has 2 big design flaws that the devs do not want to adress :- map design/number of pallets
- perks that totally change the strengh of a killer/survivor
Just some exemples :
- The First can cross the whole map in 5 seconds, has an insane chase power. If he uses RUIN + POR, it adds like 20 extra seconds to do each of the 5 gens = 100 seconds more = game is totally unbalanced unless you have all the infos as survivor.
- Survivors that use DH/DS or SB= artificially increase the chases time by 30 seconds = most killers cannot keep up
All those perks should be nerfed to oblivion.
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@TohsakaMine said:
Sorry. Most people have friends, unlike you apparently. The mode is a great way to have fun with friends, or to grind out BP in survivor mode. Also, queues arent 10+ minutes for killer in 1v4. Longest ive had the past week is 4 minutes. This is an ultra loner take.
Also, the only complaints i see about this event is how survivor/killer sided it is. The average DBD complaints lmao. I don't see anyone mad at it's existance.
Why are you talking about having friends ? Does it change the killer queue times ? No.
It is totally off topic 😂
"killer queue times are way too long" 🤨
"Gneuh ppl have friends" 👿
Ok