Why does leveling a p100 Character cost nearly 2million for barely any rewards?

I'm going to skip the whole, map tokens that suck up our bloodpoints that we can't do anything about.

However spending 1.9 million bloodpoints and barely getting any items out of it still makes zero sense to me.

When is BHVR going to stop being stingy about our BP, items, and also address the map fragments that are useless?

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Comments

  • You are using the auto complete it takes cheapest first and moves from the center circle of the bloodweb fist taking everything on the first circle and then moves to the next. Ultra Rare's rarely spawn on the first two or three circles of the bloodweb and as they are the most expensive the automation takes it last on the circle. So you will most often not get all Ultra Rare's that there is on the web if you use automation.

  • @Wezqu said:

    You are using the auto complete it takes cheapest first and moves from the center circle of the bloodweb fist taking everything on the first circle and then moves to the next. Ultra Rare's rarely spawn on the first two or three circles of the bloodweb and as they are the most expensive the automation takes it last on the circle. So you will most often not get all Ultra Rare's that there is on the web if you use automation.

    It shouldn't matter if I do or don't, it shouldn't be THIS CHEAP for being THIS EXPENSIVE!

    Also, you skipped reading the entire post, I know what the auto complete does, it's why I used it, to prove the point of the title of the thread.

    EDIT: I feel sad for people who think this should be normal.

  • When you have a character not at p100 then the bloodweb is not full basically , like only have a few branches at level 1-5 and it's only full at 40 but at p100 the bloodweb is always full so there's more things that are bought and that makes it more expensive, it's better do the bloodweb by yourself so you can get the stuff you want and ignore what you don't need

  • @SpyUA said:

    When you have a character not at p100 then the bloodweb is not full basically , like only have a few branches at level 1-5 and it's only full at 40 but at p100 the bloodweb is always full so there's more things that are bought and that makes it more expensive, it's better do the bloodweb by yourself so you can get the stuff you want and ignore what you don't need

    I agree with this, but I also think part of the reward for a p100 should be that the spawn rate for rarer items should go up. Even if you go though picking the items you want, on the fully expanded bloodweb you're still going to spend most of your BP on junk.

    Speaking for myself, part of me would like to keep investing in my favorite P100 characters but also feel like dumping all those BP into a new character is more rewarding.

    Also, even though it's not that hard to just go after the items you want (I clearly remember the plodding, uber-tedious, grueling, one node at a time BS that we suffered through for years), we've become conditioned to speed. I don't think it would be unreasonable to ask for a higher rate for better items when autospending on a maxed out bloodweb.

    Not crazy or anything (like if half or more of your web were blue/iri items), just dial it up a bit. Like by the time you hit P100 you'll have hundreds of brown/yellow items and add-ons you'll never use.

    Of course the more intensive (and probably better) solution would be to identify the useless ones and remove them altogether, which people have been requesting for years.

  • @SpyUA said:

    When you have a character not at p100 then the bloodweb is not full basically , like only have a few branches at level 1-5 and it's only full at 40 but at p100 the bloodweb is always full so there's more things that are bought and that makes it more expensive, it's better do the bloodweb by yourself so you can get the stuff you want and ignore what you don't need

    It's so full of gunk tho, like really, this is what P100ing gets us… bupkiss!

  • @Thusly_Boned said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121444#Comment_4121444

    I agree with this, but I also think part of the reward for a p100 should be that the spawn rate for rarer items should go up. Even if you go though picking the items you want, on the fully expanded bloodweb you're still going to spend most of your BP on junk.

    Speaking for myself, part of me would like to keep investing in my favorite P100 characters but also feel like dumping all those BP into a new character is more rewarding.

    Also, even though it's not that hard to just go after the items you want (I clearly remember the plodding, uber-tedious, grueling, one node at a time BS that we suffered through for years), we've become conditioned to speed. I don't think it would be unreasonable to ask for a higher rate for better items when autospending on a maxed out bloodweb.

    Not crazy or anything (like if half or more of your web were blue/iri items), just dial it up a bit. Like by the time you hit P100 you'll have hundreds of brown/yellow items and add-ons you'll never use.

    Of course the more intensive (and probably better) solution would be to identify the useless ones and remove them altogether, which people have been requesting for years.

    I agree with all of this, and I think it's really well said. I feel like getting p100 is not rewarded at all, and in fact it feels like we're given more trash to sift through. I'm already back to 5 million points and I don't care to spend 30 minutes slowly going through the bloodweb like I'm playing the most boring game of Jenga. I want to play the game and have some extra adds ons and more to burn for my team. Heck, we barely get bloody party streamers, but you would think something that gives BP would be prioritized over useless items, but I think BHVR is stingy when it comes to BP, period.

    Map offerings that don't work should cost 0 or they should work. I don't think that takes a genius or extra coding to resolve. However, I do think all the promises and failed promises of this game are due to ignoring core systems they themselves have diminished into oblivion. What's the point of a p100 if you get squat? But I'll just file this for now right under they'll one day fix anti-camp and anti-tunneling… when… probably in 10 more years.

  • @nicoblue said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121412#Comment_4121412

    It shouldn't matter if I do or don't, it shouldn't be THIS CHEAP for being THIS EXPENSIVE!

    Also, you skipped reading the entire post, I know what the auto complete does, it's why I used it, to prove the point of the title of the thread.

    EDIT: I feel sad for people who think this should be normal.

    The ez button comes with a cost.

    If you show a bunch of back to back lvl 50 webs with garbage I'll be more inclined to agree.

    Players are giving too much meaning to P100. It's not meant to be a goal just a limit.

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121414#Comment_4121414

    The ez button comes with a cost.

    If you show a bunch of back to back lvl 50 webs with garbage I'll be more inclined to agree.

    Players are giving too much meaning to P100. It's not meant to be a goal just a limit.

    "Players are giving too much meaning to P100. It's not meant to be a goal just a limit."

    While perhaps correct, I think it's also naive. "Limit" and "Goal" are effectively interchangeable terms in competitive/gaming spaces, and as soon as BHVR offered any kind of reward/special symbology for reaching P100, it pretty much locked that in.

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4121414#Comment_4121414

    The ez button comes with a cost.

    If you show a bunch of back to back lvl 50 webs with garbage I'll be more inclined to agree.

    Players are giving too much meaning to P100. It's not meant to be a goal just a limit.

    LOL sure, I don't even know what your second sentence even means.

    "If you show a bunch of back to back lvl 50 webs with garbage I'll be more inclined to agree."

    Shove? I don't get it either way, sorry.

  • Its certainly most noticeably a nerf to that character during events. Where each cake or dousing rod etc costs an entire level 50 bloodweb as apose to the event stuff showing up even in the smallest/cheapest levels. Making it less incentivised to play p100s during events as their offerings cost a "bloody fortune".

    Being stuck at level 50 is a nerf, unless you are trying to get the red items/offerings which are almost always there, so you could technically be able to use a red addon/offering and never run out, at the cost of more bloodpoints.