So lemme get this right

You literally have a system in 2v8 that determines gen speeds based on how well the Killers or Survivors are doing in game and you haven't put this thing into normal DBD? Really?

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  • 2v8 has no matchmaking as far as I can tell. Throwing trolls and low hour players are put with good ones. It needs a system like that to make up for how uneven it is. It's also super casual. In 1v4, proper matchmaking should be doing the work.

  • @cogsturning said:

    2v8 has no matchmaking as far as I can tell. Throwing trolls and low hour players are put with good ones. It needs a system like that to make up for how uneven it is. It's also super casual. In 1v4, proper matchmaking should be doing the work.

    The match making is worthless. Especially right now since they reset it. This is a well known fact

  • @Wraff said:

    You literally have a system in 2v8 that determines gen speeds based on how well the Killers or Survivors are doing in game and you haven't put this thing into normal DBD? Really?

    The system is kind of flawed though as it is based on hook states rather than deaths, so in order to avoid that killers are encouraged to tunnel, and I don't think that would be healthy for 1v4.

  • @Wraff said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4113440#Comment_4113440

    The match making is worthless. Especially right now since they reset it. This is a well known fact

    Using 1 week of a reset as an example isn't the best argument. The whole point of the reset is to improve the system. The regular matchmaking isn't consistent, sure, but 2v8 is significantly worse. You're almost guaranteed to get multiple people who hide all match in that mode. That's probably why it's also only 8 gens instead of 10. They have to account for the useless players that might be doing nothing against 5k hour duo killers.

  • @CosmicScarab said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/471843/so-lemme-get-this-right

    The system is kind of flawed though as it is based on hook states rather than deaths, so in order to avoid that killers are encouraged to tunnel, and I don't think that would be healthy for 1v4.

    They have enough people and money to make it work

  • @Wraff said:

    You literally have a system in 2v8 that determines gen speeds based on how well the Killers or Survivors are doing in game and you haven't put this thing into normal DBD? Really?

    I don't think this should be the case in normal 1v4, arcade mode feeling is a part of what makes 2v8 unique and fun. also, it's kind of a bad feelng when you do the right things (either as survivor or killer) to be ahead and the game just forces you to be kind of even until the end of the game.

    To the point you're trying to make though: Stomps don't feel good for anyone whether its a hard tunnel at 5 that leads to a snowball of being slugged and healed and slugged again, or just being unable to catch anybody as killer, I wish BHVR would put serious time into how to make the normal game have many more opportunities for either side to get back into the game rather than it just feeling like a scale tipping further where one or two bad plays feels impossible to come back from for either side…

  • @Wraff said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4113440#Comment_4113440

    The match making is worthless. Especially right now since they reset it. This is a well known fact

    We don't know that yet, as it's going to take a few weeks to calibrate to the new system. Dooming it before it gets anywhere isn't productive.

  • @Wraff said:

    You literally have a system in 2v8 that determines gen speeds based on how well the Killers or Survivors are doing in game and you haven't put this thing into normal DBD? Really?

    the problem with that system is killers can't really come back since a survivor's objective is permanent also the dwvs said 2v8 was built for survivor fun and is balanced heavily in favor of them because everyone wants to play killer (which is why ques are so long)

    the devs know that the game would die if they implemented that and they tried to do it in the 9.0 pt 1 and 2 ptb and it was rejected

  • @Wraff said:

    You literally have a system in 2v8 that determines gen speeds based on how well the Killers or Survivors are doing in game and you haven't put this thing into normal DBD? Really?

    Because this system is horrible, I lost more often than not in 2vs8 because I was too fast than I lost because I was too slow, and that's just stupid like this xD

  • Adding the 2v8 system would be great for a casual mode, but I absolutely do not want it in standard 1v4.

    If they split 1v4 into casual and ranked then as said, it would be fine in just the casual mode. Honestly it might be the best way to keep the casuals in the casual queue and the rest in the ranked one. No one trying their hardest to win is going to want to enter the casual queues where doing well makes you do worse and vice versa. A Blight main playing with their family on the line isn't going to tolerate losing a match because they did so well the last survivors could finish the gens super fast.