This perk combo is no skill and genuinely busted, yet I don't see anyone run it anymore..? Did it secretly get nerfed or is everyone just running Decisive Strike now that its free?
It didn't get nerfed, people don't use because it's boring doing gens all the time and they need exhastion perks to loop the killer, they can still use DS with this combo but people do also use windows of opportunity or resilience and that's 3 perk slots occupied (exhaustion, ds and windows) but it's still disgustingly overpowered especially in swf with 4 toolboxes with brand new parts.
Hyperfocus affects skill check progress not gen speed so it and the toolbox is seperate and not affected by diminishing returns. Same with stake out.
Both Skill Check Chance and Skill Check Bonus Progression are affected by Diminishing Returns.
That means when you use a Toolbox (40% Skill Check Chance), adding Hyperfocus (additional Skill Check Chance 2%-24%) gets halved to 1%-12%.
Hyperfocus has Skill Check Bonus Progression, but so does Stake Out, so depending on the number of Hyperfocus tokens, either Stake Out or Hyperfocus Bonus Progression is reduced by 50%
Both Skill Check Chance and Skill Check Bonus Progression are affected by Diminishing Returns.
That means when you use a Toolbox (40% Skill Check Chance), adding Hyperfocus (additional Skill Check Chance 2%-24%) gets halved to 1%-12%.
Hyperfocus has Skill Check Bonus Progression, but so does Stake Out, so depending on the number of Hyperfocus tokens, either Stake Out or Hyperfocus Bonus Progression is reduced by 50%
Ah apparently I completely forgot that tool boxes increases the skill check amounts. Thanks for letting me know that it actually got hit relatively hard with diminished returns.
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It didn't get nerfed, people don't use because it's boring doing gens all the time and they need exhastion perks to loop the killer, they can still use DS with this combo but people do also use windows of opportunity or resilience and that's 3 perk slots occupied (exhaustion, ds and windows) but it's still disgustingly overpowered especially in swf with 4 toolboxes with brand new parts.
Hyperfocus, Stake Out and a Toolbox are affected by Diminishing Returns, but this probably does not make a difference to the pick rate.
Stake Out is just too many steps for most people.
Hyperfocus affects skill check progress not gen speed so it and the toolbox is seperate and not affected by diminishing returns. Same with stake out.
Both Skill Check Chance and Skill Check Bonus Progression are affected by Diminishing Returns.
That means when you use a Toolbox (40% Skill Check Chance), adding Hyperfocus (additional Skill Check Chance 2%-24%) gets halved to 1%-12%.
Hyperfocus has Skill Check Bonus Progression, but so does Stake Out, so depending on the number of Hyperfocus tokens, either Stake Out or Hyperfocus Bonus Progression is reduced by 50%
Here is a comment I made previously with more details: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4085650#Comment_4085650
Ah apparently I completely forgot that tool boxes increases the skill check amounts. Thanks for letting me know that it actually got hit relatively hard with diminished returns.
Still works really well. Was just using it last week.
Yeah still good just a bit weaker.