3v12
Not really serious about an upgrade to the chaos.
Just talkin' cuz it's frustrating getting down voted for everything and watching very little constructive feedback.
2v8 spikes player counts across the board. Survivors feel like they aren't going to get stomped into the ground every game and Killers have so many targets and upgraded stats that it feels very satisfying to get those downs and hooks.
The killer que time complaint isn't particularly very constructive.
Everyone wants to be the killer. Thus que times increase.
Even if they aren't winning their matches everyone wants to be the killer.
More survivors play as they have a higher chance of escaping even if there's a chance of hard KWF tunnel and cage camp.
It gives more of a party game feel instead of this sweaty 4k every game try hard garbage in 1v4.
Expecting a 4k is just entitlement. Taking advantage of the system to ensure it is just trash.
It's not a comp game in the sense you could tournament it.
These alternate modes are for fun and should be treated as such.
I never care if I win or not as killer. Being sweaty is too stressful. And really, what do you gain? There's no leaderboard. You literally gain nothing by obliterating survivors for 200+ games in a row.
You gain more BP from performing actions not kills.
You earn more BP from dragging the game out than just wiping everyone before the first gen is done.
Bully squads don't bother me. You just bully back. You have the power roll so slug them. Force them to play by your rules.
2v8 is meant to be casual and that's why more people play it whether they are inexperienced, enjoy the chaos, or just don't want to get stomped over and over.
Would making 2v8 permanent be good?
It's hard to say.
On one hand more people would play.
On the other hand it would force BVHR to fix the problems with 1v4, perks, etc.
However, as someone who can't play all friggin day and has a job; I only have 15-60 minutes to play a day and would rather play 2v8.
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I fear you've had a common theme lately with your discussions/comments that killers are narcissistic sweaty tryhards (your words) for simply having anxiety for wanting to perform well in their role as well as this recurrent mention alongside points you make that you have a job, as if to hammer home that it makes your view more valid and/or to demean. This was also well communicated to you previously that that was exactly why you were downvoted, so your "very little constructive feedback" statement is simply false. To this specific point, my constructive feedback is maybe chill out with the belittlement and people will be more willing to engage with you in a meaningful way.
As for your main point, which I believe is that everyone should treat 2v8 as a casual/fun mode; fun for you is not the same fun that others have. Others have fun winning their games. Some have fun with a balance of playing hard, but still having moments to be goofy (this is me). Some have fun fully throwing the game to run around and be silly with the survivors (my duo). Your measure of fun in this game is not the bar that we are all held to just because you have a job, have little time to play, and seem particularly abhorrent to killers killing too well.
Hope that was constructive enough this time.
Random, sorry, but have you been playing Carnival Hunt? Saw someone with your name on a live stream the other day
4x16 or go home
Typical killer gaslighting.
My experience means nothing to yours.
I'm not high MMR and yet every 1v4 game is slugging for the 4k and tunneling at 5 gen.
I'm a mid MMR soloq.
Exploiting game mechanics is not free card to ruin everyone else's experience or an excuse.
If your "fun" is preventing someone from playing then those aspects should be addressed.
There are more bully killers than bully squads.
Actually yeah, I have been playing Carnival Hunt.
It has similar problems with soloq only it's much harder for a variety of reasons.
Although it's much more engaging.
However, due to the extreme learning curve and bully nature of the players; I'm not sure they will be able to keep the small player base they have without addressing the same problems dbd has.
For instance, over inflated MMR from exploiting mechanics who then complain when they aren't winning every game perfectly.
At least, they show you your MMR.
I'm not sure how I was gaslighting you when I used your own words and the responses of others from previous discussions, but ok.
I play 50/50 killer and survivor. I am by no means am high MMR killer and as I said in my reply to you, I play hard, but also have times where I am goofy. 95% of the time, my "playing hard" is 8 hooking people before I end the game to give survivors the best chance possible. We're literally two sides of the exact same coin and yet you can't be bothered to admit that. I could also arbitrarily say you are an entitled survivor main based off the MIRIADE of comments from you only talking from the survivor perspective, but feel that is pointlessly mean wouldn't you say?
Again, maybe try being a bit more civil in your conversations with people? I don't understand why you come to the forum asking for input to then immediately put it down as someone gaslighting or being a bully killer… I have never a single time ever been any form of toxic to survivors because I don't want to be seen by people like you in this way…. but this just proves the point "high MMR" killer mains say all the time in this forum that no matter what you do, you'll be seen as the bad guy.