If all survivors DC, killer "abandoning" should count as a 4k or exclude the match
If the killer abandons when every survivor dcs, it will show those survivors as escaped. Realistically, the killer could have stayed and killed all the bots, but it's a waste of time. Like if all 4 survivors dc at the start of the match, that's 15 minutes wasted killing bots. When every survivor dcs, the killer abandoning should just count as a 4k or exclude the match.
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The "Abandon" feature is such disappointing trash. It could have been known for simply allowing players to leave matches penalty-free but is bogged down by unfair, hidden match results. If BHVR bothered to permanently mention match results in-game and, as you suggested, make the actual results fairer, then it could still be salvaged.
abandon means give up…. this makes sense from a survivor point of view because its available when they are all downed or when things are not looking good for them. Killers can only abandon when they are winning which is why you dont really see killers abandon, why abandon and give up when your winning?
The reason why it is the way it is, its because BHVR didnt want to incentivise forcing players to abandon so the killer can abandon and get instant 4k. It hasnt worked that way because killers still slug and force the abandon and just mop up the slugged bots but atleast they cant instant 4k by abandoning. Same with the abandon option for when a gen is not done in 10min….technically the killer is in a good position because they are stopping gens from being finished buying time to kill but for some reason when they are in a good position killers can opt to abandon. Again, which is why we never see killers abandon, they wont abandon a match they are winning.
Killers should be able to save time and abandon with a win when, say, all of the Survivors are bots that are on the ground or hooked.
While i agree killers should get this option…It would cause issues that technically a slug bot can still crawl to hatch which would not be a 4k…abandon would give a free kill that the killer may not have had in this situation.
Before bots, when a survivor DCs, they just instantly disappear from the match and all if survivors DCed it was an instant 4k. It made no difference for killers being toxic. BHVR is just doing this because they're lazy rather than they want to avoid toxic killer behaviour. Imo, the bot system was a fail and it should just be removed now that survivors can surrender. Survivors also would probably rather just go next than play with bots.
I think BHVR made it so that bots don't move at all when they're slugged. Like every time I slug a bot, they're in the exact same position after leaving them there for ages.
they stay still unless they have somewhere to go. if the gate is open or the hatch is available they seem to crawl to that direction but they need to be options available at the time, the bots wont crawl to a hatch spawn location in anticipation waiting for the hatch to spawn.
Abandon already makes the match not be completed and the matches count as draws or losses depending on what abandon option was used. For killer if he abandons after the survivors become bots its counted draw for him. Also if survivor abandons for any other reason than all other survivors in the match being bots the abandon is counted as a loss for them. If the survivors abandons because all other survivors are bots its considered a draw. The escapes are not real but hud showing wrong and they don't win the match.
Are you talking about MMR? I'm talking about the stats for your profile, which aren't accurate since abandons cause remaining survivors to count as an escape, which deflates your kill rate and makes your match history inaccurate.
Abandon = surrender. Meaning if killer doesn't want to play against bots he can abandon, if you care about kill rate you can kill bots still. I don't see any problems.
The problem is inaccurate stats. As I said, realistically the killer could have killed all the bots if they were bothered. BHVR is probably also using the same inaccurate stats. If they're balancing with the assumption that killer abandon = escape, they're heavily underestimating the kill rate, which will lead to them overbuffing killers.
this game has become unplayable as a survivor because killer mains stay crying about not getting easy 4ks. Hook the bots. You’re already playing as the easier side, and now you’re crying about having to finish bots off. Wild. Dbd has become straight trash recently with how easy they make the killer role. Should be more options to abandon tbh
What do you care if, in these scenarios, you've already abandoned?
You know this suggestion will literally speed your queue times? If killers finish their matches faster (due to not wasting time killing bots), there will be more killers queuing leading to faster queue times for survivors.
Why should it be a win? All 5 of you chose to forfeit the trial. It's just a nullified trial, which has an incredibly low impact on anything.
In the example I posted where all 4 survivors dc at the start, it could arguely be considered as nullified match depending on why they DCed. Though, that's an extreme case. The more common scenario is there's 1-2 survivors left and they all DC because they've already lost. In this scenario, it's just a matter of walking around to pick up the survivors or finishing off the 1 bot. Considering this as an escape has negative implications for balancing as discussed earlier:
I don't know why we care so much about the stats. I don't think they've ever been particularly correct and even if they are we have to assume BHVR is making the right moves based on what they're telling us, which they've already claimed is not the most important factor when it comes to changes.
Kill rate is one major factor they consider when balancing killers. It might always be the largest factor, but it still largely impacts their decision-making. They specifically mentioned in this video that they target a 60-65% kill rate.
And yet they also claim that they will pull things if they receive enough backlash. 2025 was the biggest example of that. The stats mean nothing, in my opinion.
So they balance based on kill rate then change things if it goes wrong. There's literally not a single video game in history with constant perfect balance. Things are always getting rebalanced. You're also cherry picking. There's plenty of examples of buffs going right.
Well your opinion is irrelevant. There's literally a dev telling you they target 60-65% kill rate.
Umm, I don't actually care.
Then don't reply.
You first.
Replying = you care.
You should wear a cape so you can be big mad.
Fairly sure you're replying to me because you're mad. You would have stopped replying to me by now if you didn't care. I don't care anymore, so this is the last reply.