do you think winning is more difficult as a killer or a survivor
Your objective as a survivor is to complete 5 generators, your only defense really is a flashlight, and pallets around the map. Killers have to hit you up to twice each down and hang you 3 times right.
killers can bring in perks that make most survivability perk sets pointless, they make flashlights, flashbangs, and blast mines pointless. they walk sometimes 1.5x to 2x faster than you briefly, they can bring in perks to make generator regression happen instantly at up to 250% speeds, they have added ons and offerings that allow for 1 hit downs, and some killers just make pallets a waste of time. Killers like the knight or the hag can just throw a goon or multiple traps on a hung survivor and just target one of them until they are out of the game.
they have perks to show your aura anytime you work on a generator, anytime you heal, if your injured, anytime if you're in the basement, if you scare a crow, anytime you escape a chase, etc. basically anytime you play the game killer perks show your aura. The meta perk stacks are almost unbeatable without comms to your other teammates and if you're going in with 4 survivor perks that work cohesively with each other. and new survivor perks are basically useless perks that survivors A.) already have or B.) are just flashy almost role play like perks
on the other hand, being a killer, if you haven't spent any money on this game at all, would be extremely difficult. especially survivors that go in as a 4 stack. But for those that don't the matchmaking is kind of brutal on what you're going to get I'd say less than 30% of matches you're going in with other survivors equal in skill level to the killers.
so, my question is do you think winning as a killer is more difficult than escaping as a survivor.
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Why does your post lump SWF's and SoloQ together? Surv is split into two categories, SWF's and SoloQ. Both play vastly different and adhere to different mechanics.
even with swfs.
it doesnt even reach the 50% survival rate threeshold.
behavior wants killer to kill at 60%.
so there is a 20% gap.
if we ignore the stats, playing killer is much easier than to play on soloq, even on high mmr against swfs.
you got no control over so many things as soloq, even with 5k hours and you loop for 15mins,
if the three teammates dont do gens, you wont win.
and if they get chased but die every 10 secounds, the best genrush-loadout wont save you from that.
meanwhile as killers, you either get forced into no control or simply dont have the perks or experince to win.
There is a reason killer has 60% kill rate and why most low MMR matches are utter stomps by the killer.
Right now, in the current chapter? If you dont play S/A tier killers, you automatically lose at the top bracket.
You should go check the Stats on Nightlight. While it doesn't always have a big pool of stats to pull from… you can obviously see a trend. Only the best killer has just about 60% KR… everyone else is below that, and a big chunk of the killer roster is even below 50%. Killer is in a rly bad place right now.
Killer have responsibility on his mistakes only.
Survivors shares it. They share everything.
And because this game doesn’t teach coordination and not really providing tools for it, no wonder why survivors can’t win more until utterly broken concepts will be in their hands
With bad matchmaking definitely killer is easier. Even with good matchmaking because of the reasons above. Unless the survivor is against like a bad tier killer.
My experience after pallet density update.
Low MMR - Killer wins
High MMR - Survivors wins
either way solo Q or swf its easier for killer as a killer main myself I play survivor and do survive games but usually someone dies with me doing my best to help the team even without friends to play with
but then again I haven't played for months
What is winning for each side?
How many kills does a killer need to be considered the winner?
Do you need to escape to win as a survivor? Does it matter if none of your team escapes? Does it matter if you die if the rest of your team escape?
Like it is not that difficult to play for hatches by not interacting with the rest of the game as a survivor. It is also not that difficult to get a single kill as a killer.
Killer's overall easier but has more stress vectors, even starting with the killer you decide to play (new Myers is incredibly chill).
Survivor's harder in a statistical sense but it's pretty chill if you go in with the right mindset. The hard part is finding friends with the same mindset or minding your solo queue tolerance.
Omg the pallet density changes are terrible. I chased a Leon last night an it was on the Erie of Crow's map and he must have dropped 20 pallets.
great question
i think its 3 k for killer and escape at all as a surv which makes 2 winners possible per game
Again, as a survivor main, I would definitely go for killer.
Killer wins, killer wins, killer wins, killer wins, killer wins, killer wins, killer wins, gets to High MMR, finally loses, considers this proof that killer can't win.
Sure, guy.
Yeah I've started my second survivor p100 grind and its just not hard, ill watch my sable throw 12 pallets and we still have half the map its genuinely so nice. Aside from that killer requires signifigantly more Macro and Micro imo.
Just very slightly overall easier for a killer to win in current DBD as far as my own experience and taking into consideration gameplay I have seen from others but obviously there are a lot of contributing factors as to how each match could go.
Seeing the votes makes me loose faith in humanity. In what way is it hard to win as a survivor? Sure having at minimum 4 fingers on both hands is a tough requirement.
Unironically I think survivors thinking killer is strong or has an easy time is (not meant as an insult) just being uneducated in how the killers works you are facing. With the exception of the 5 killers you see every match like Wesker, Ghoul, Blight, etc. The rest of the killer cast cannot win through skill with some minor exceptions. If you die to something like Sadako, Trapper, Wraith, it's your fault.
Most killer powers are designed so terribly that the only reason they can hurt you with it is because you made a mistake. If you play correctly you will not struggle against a large portion of the killer cast. Survivor is probably the most boring role in the entire game. And killer is the most stressful and unrewarding experience I have ever had doing anything. I'd much rather go through the final exams of my apprenticeship for the rest of my life everyday instead of having to play a single match of Killer for the rest of my days.
How? Do you have a keyboard? Or a controller? Or a screen for that matter. There is nothing easier than survivor rn
It depends what you count as a win. Personally, I count it as a win for the killer if they get at least 2 kills. In my time playing dbd, I die way more as survivor than survive the match
Definitely easier for survivors to win. As both a killer main and a survivor main who plays solo queue most of the time, I can say my killer games require a lot more effort than playing survivor. Even when I play solo as survivor, there's a better chance I bump into decent teammates so I can relax and just do gens, or when I don't I try to take chase from them so they can do gens instead. Whereas as killer, I am forced to fix my posture and remind myself to lose chase if It's taking too long in order to ensure a win, to check gens and decide who to chase.
One brain vs Four, it makes sense for the four survivors to have a better chance of getting out and the killer losing.
because of survivors wanting to go next and also 60% is a neutral winrate sense this is an asim and not a even match its 4 people vs 1 there are more outcomes from killer then survivor. 0 and 1 kill is a lose 2 is a tie 3 and 4 is a win meaning 3 of the 5 out comes for killer is a bad outcome while one 2 are a good outcome. then we have survivors who has 2 states killed or escaped meaning one is good one is bad
ya killer are responsible for there mistakes but also dont have others to help them like survivors do. there is a reason killer anxiety is a very common thing but survivors dont have the same epidemic of it.
i would say a win for survivor is escaping and a win for killer is 3 or more kills sense the goal of the devs is a 60% kill rate and surivors are tracked on escape rate by the devs meaning its the win con for them.
do you think the 20 to 30k hour player winning alot means that the game is killer sided when all it shows is how bad the match making is putting bad survivors against insanly good killers with probably multiple hunreds of hours on the game over all 4 of the survivors combined.
i play both sides very evenly and killer is harder to win on and how i determin that is i never watch videos or listen to music while playing killer but i always on survivor because i dont need to focus as much and i have 3 teamates to pick up my slack while on killer i am alone and have to do everything my self.