My God, Ghostface Needs Help...

I'm back after a somewhat long break from the game, and thought I would give Ghostface (who I was learning) another go. It's been rough, partly due to rust but also because at this point the little buffs he got really, really are not enough. He still has a lot of issues BHVR really needs to fix, and I'm alarmed he hasn't gotten yet.

  1. His Reveal. It needs a rework. It's not fair to either side, period. He shouldn't be revealed every five seconds and he shouldn't be able to have his power negated by someone following him or sitting up in a balcony. Makes no sense. There's no other Killer I can think of that has this issue, it's 2025, no excuses BHVR. In the same breath, HOW can a Survivor be right next to him and NOT Reveal him? He can be there plain as day and not be revealed, but the second he's behind a wall the Survivor is behind, he is EASIER to reveal? What happened, I don't remember it ever being this bad before. Did desynch issues in this patch/hotfix mess him up?
  2. Addons. He still has addons that either a) do nothing, b) are more help than harm, c) encourage nasty tactics like slugging. I mean I was running Leather Sheath and Night Vision Lens and I was alarmed how often the game forced me to return to hooks or camp when I didn't want to. Just not overall great. I see that happen on not many other Killers, period. None of the addons I picked helped, not even ones related to stalking, because…
  3. Stalking feels like it's not rewarding enough for the time it takes to set up. How am I supposed to get value from Drop-Leg Sheath or the map addons when trying to Mark feels like it's a waste of time? No, the faster stalk speed didn't help either. It's endless frustration where ambush tactics feel like a waste so you have to play catchup as a basekit M1. And if you can't stalk consistently, you miss out on points.
  4. Lean glitchiness. There's multiple objects he should be able to lean on that he just… cannot consistently. It's very difficult for no real reason to lean around rounded objects in particular, what's up with that? Shouldn't he be able to peak around those? The number of times this has caused me to be Revealed too soon is too many to count.

Please do something about all this, BHVR. He's not in a bad spot but he's not in a good one either. This is not cool.

Comments

  • BVHR: Gives wesker 3 dashes.

    Also BVHR: Here's 0.1% buffs to ghostface.

  • @Mandy, please.

    This is absurd, there are Ghostface Mains on this site and many others that have given you guys ideas for how to fix this stuff. I'm not even a Ghostface Main and I have ideas right here.

    Please just give him a solid working on. Please just at least fix his issues, I know it takes a while, but we'd like to know he's at least under review for a big fix the way Myers, Pig, Freddy, and others who struggled are.

  • I feel ghostface is fine ish, With Drop a knife and driver license its pretty okay, perhaps it should be basekit because he is a " slow" killer to stall the game a little bit, because on big maps he is not so strong and if you can stall a gen from afar it would be helpful while on racoon station he is fairly strong as is. Dead and hooked people should not be able to reveal ghostface imo, They just got a knife right through the brain and should be occupied by that rather than being able to instantly reveal.

    best build imo for me is . Franklin, Weave, Surge, pain res / discordance with drivers license and drop a knife.

  • I think the reveal mechanic is trash and definitely needs reworked/fixed. Its near impossible to reveal him as a survivor, even when im looking directly at him.

  • @UknownShredder said:

    I feel ghostface is fine ish, With Drop a knife and driver license its pretty okay, perhaps it should be basekit because he is a " slow" killer to stall the game a little bit, because on big maps he is not so strong and if you can stall a gen from afar it would be helpful while on racoon station he is fairly strong as is. Dead and hooked people should not be able to reveal ghostface imo, They just got a knife right through the brain and should be occupied by that rather than being able to instantly reveal.

    best build imo for me is . Franklin, Weave, Surge, pain res / discordance with drivers license and drop a knife.

    He shouldn't be "okay" only if using specific addons - especially rare\iri addons. He should be okay at a base level, and better with addons.

  • P100 main. I've stopped playing killer recently since every patch just kicks the weaker m1 killers in the gut. That being said, they either need to make his dropleg entirely basekit (no half measures for crying out loud), or do something a bit more creative.

    One idea I had was that while crouched, he can see the auras of nearby survivors who are currently interacting with something (ie gen, totem, chest, etc…) but loses the aura once the survivor is no longer interacting with it. This would help him set up better ambushes when there's no line of sight yet. This way, he doesn't have to roll the die when peaking a corner only to find out the survivor was on the opposite side of the gen (so still no line of sight, but the survivor sees via 3rd person), spots him, and is now sprint bursting away into the hills which invalidates his entire attempt at approaching cautiously.

    Another good thing to add would be having his crouch mode no longer initiate chase. The amount of times I've been trying to sneak up on someone carefully who has NO idea I'm there only to suddenly have alarm bell chase music blasting and giving my position away just because the survivor happens to tap their sprint key……..ugh.

  • @Jadelysta said:

    I think the reveal mechanic is trash and definitely needs reworked/fixed. Its near impossible to reveal him as a survivor, even when im looking directly at him.

    It's not difficult, it's just his skill, you can only reveal him if he has less than half of his body exposed, which is super fair.Now, you don't talk about the times you reveal him behind the wall, right?

  • @Daniel_Silva04 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3882824#Comment_3882824

    It's not difficult, it's just his skill, you can only reveal him if he has less than half of his body exposed, which is super fair.Now, you don't talk about the times you reveal him behind the wall, right?

    I can never reveal ghostface period, even when he is stealthing out in the open. I literally stare right at him and nothing ever happens, the entire mechanic needs fixed for BOTH roles.

  • @Jadelysta said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883379#Comment_3883379

    I can never reveal ghostface period, even when he is stealthing out in the open. I literally stare right at him and nothing ever happens, the entire mechanic needs fixed for BOTH roles.

    A tip for you, to reveal him, position the middle of your screen on his head, it's much more precise.

  • @Daniel_Silva04 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883381#Comment_3883381

    A tip for you, to reveal him, position the middle of your screen on his head, it's much more precise.

    I know how it works, im telling you how inconsistent the mechanic is in general. I have been playing this game since 2019, obviously i have revealed many Ghostfaces, but is it hard/clunky to do? very much so.

  • You said yourself that you're rusty, you can't really judge a killer unless you're comfortable with them and can compare them to other killers. I'm not saying you're wrong that ghosty is in a weaker spot, but there's a bunch of killers that need to be played at a higher level to get the most out of their kit. And kit simplicity isn't enough to say that a killer's skill ceiling is low or high.

    @Devil_hit11 said:

    BVHR: Gives wesker 3 dashes.

    Also BVHR: Here's 0.1% buffs to ghostface.

    You know that's only for 2v8 right?

  • @beater15 said:

    You said yourself that you're rusty, you can't really judge a killer unless you're comfortable with them and can compare them to other killers. I'm not saying you're wrong that ghosty is in a weaker spot, but there's a bunch of killers that need to be played at a higher level to get the most out of their kit. And kit simplicity isn't enough to say that a killer's skill ceiling is low or high.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3882723#Comment_3882723

    You know that's only for 2v8 right?

    you missed the joke. the whole reason why GF got almost no changes is that there was not enough bandwidth to change the killer but wesker had enough bandwidth to get 3 dashes, more QOL changes and more.

  • I am back bumping this because once again, I don't think his changes are enough.

    They are giving him a 24 m TR, which is a nice buff the same as Pig's. But it still doesn't help when his Reveal is so finicky.

    Serious help like Legion is getting. Serious help like Pig got. Serious buffs like Freddy got. Please just do this for this one specific well-loved Killer so he doesn't have to play like a jerk every single round if the Survivors are halfway attentive.