Just me, or newest killers feels like a powercreep for our older ones?
I'm looking at Vecna and Dracula… Dude, their abilities feels so versatile and fun to use, I don't find them unique tho, these 2 feels like a mash of 6-7 killers that we already have in 1.
But the fact that these 2 can use their abilities differently in so many different scenarios just makes them feel pretty strong maybe even too strong (when you get used to them) and much more fun.
While it's completely fine since they are fun to play, I'm afraid that developers may push this idea of having "300" skills in 1 killer further and it may cause a big powercreep to the older ones.
Edit: Also, after playing Dracula or Vecna, people may not want to play on older killers… They are going to feel less fun, or less viable.
Maybe it's just me… I don't know. What do you think?
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You have to keep in mind that Killers like Vecna and Dracula are also more complicated to play. They are overall more complex. And therefore, I think it is fine when they are stronger than older Killers.
I mean, compare Vecna to Wraith. Vecna has four different abilities he can use, and all of them on a quite lengthy Cooldown, so you have to manage them a bit. Wraith on the other hand does "Bing Bong" and gets a Hit.
That over the games lifespan Killers become more complex is normal I guess, since they have to come up with ideas which feel different from other Killers. E.g. Unknown uses their projectiles with a bounce, since direct Hits would basically just be Huntress.
And overall, I think it is a good thing that the more simple Killers are a bit weaker than the complex ones.
That is totally fair.
Killers becoming more complex is pretty normal indeed, it's the new ideas. But I still have this feeling that killers like these 2 may just drain the old ones (more simple ones) in sheer powercreep.
I'm not going to overexaggerate by saying: "Oh, nobody is gonna play old killers then", but we probably will see less of them. Just guessing tho.
And even if so… How can they fix that? Reworking all older killers is just going to take years of work. Buffing them also not going to work, I think?
Fixing an issue of powercreep may only be in nerfs of Vecna and Dracula… Which I don't want to happen tbh, and many other players who likes to play them too.
that is just the thing, Wraith has 1 ability but it has 3 functions
→Mobility
→Undetectable
→Longer lunge out of cloak.
Older killer have same amount of abilities but their ability is compact into one ability.
Dracula is
→Mobility
→Double lunge
→Ranged fissure attack
Has undetectable but it doesn't work, 45 meter lullaby. [Wraith has secret 4th hidden ability, Aura reading and Fast pallet break].
There is one factor which you forget and which will make it not happen that older Killers are not played - people play whatever Killer they like.
Sure, if you want to win, you can probably stick to a newer Killer. I agree on that one. But not everyone plays solely to win. Because if we would only play to win, everyone would play Nurse.
But you will find plenty of players who still play the older Killers. E.g. I was pretty good with Vecna, had a good time with him. And yet I have not touched him after I "completed" him (which means bringing him to P9), simply because I like other Killers more.
Yup this is the pattern they are adopting. Just piling on more and more stuff and…. hoping things work out. So far they havent.
Unknown is just a easy mode version of Artist with a teleport.
Lich has 4 different abilities. Because that apparently needed to be a thing.
Dracula is Wesker, Spirit, Dredge, and Pyramid Head all in one.
Its just a joke at this point. I play legion and plague and theres … nothing even coming close to these new killers power levels. May as well just reintroduce nurse every new killer if they insist on making these decisions.
This is just hilarious lmao, for the simple fact that:
1. While unknown is a strong killer he is far more complex than artist, its skill ceiling is incredible one you use the bounce.
2. Vecna has 4 abilities, 1 being just info , 1 being subpar mobility, other being an m2 attack that is only good if you spawn it inside survivors and a final one that is quite a useful antiloop. And yet killers that are more simple can do everything he does better, ej artist, she has info, a better m2 and antiloop, while lacking mobility she has better map pressure, and guess what, she only has 1 ability.
Its absurd to think that just because he has 4 abilities he is better than other killers, vecna and dracula with all their power combined cannot even aproach the likes of billy,nurse,blight or spirit.
3. Finally new killers may be more complex but they are not necesarily very powerfull (they are not bad either tho), as I said even with this complex killers, old killers are still fall more powerful than them.
2. Vecna has 4 abilties. A ranged attack, a free hit around a pallet grab, traversal, and a reveal. And the traversal is not subpar, thats a hard skill/knowledge issue if you think that. Artist does not even come CLOSE to this guy at all. Thats possibly the hottest take I have seen on this forum. Her info is about as bad as it gets in this game. Do you realize how close you have to be to those crows for killer instinct?
3. New killers are more complex and more powerful. Old killers are not more powerful than any of these options.
There is a reason Artist has one of the LOWEST pick rates in this game. Because she actually takes skill. The others mentioned you can pick up very quickly. She is down with Twins, Hag, and Freddy.