Nix de-pipping or allow bots

Either get rid of de-pipping or let me fill empty lobby slots with bots when I play survivor. I'm so freaking tired of the teammates I get, disconnecting or just not participating. I had one match where a teammate escaped with less than 8k. LESS THAN 8K. Why did you load into the damn game to do literally nothing?!

Definitely done playing for the night. I can't take finding another teammate crouching around the edges of the map or getting in and out of a locker. Goddamn miserable.

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  • @TragicSolitude said:

    Either get rid of de-pipping or let me fill empty lobby slots with bots when I play survivor. I'm so freaking tired of the teammates I get, disconnecting or just not participating. I had one match where a teammate escaped with less than 8k. LESS THAN 8K. Why did you load into the damn game to do literally nothing?!

    Definitely done playing for the night. I can't take finding another teammate crouching around the edges of the map or getting in and out of a locker. Goddamn miserable.

    You call that an "immersed survivor"

    One that, by definition, tries to play it as safe as possible in order to not die

    These though of course, are the bane of any team as they are mostly interested in surviving themselves, usually because they have a challenge that requires them to escape and/or found a rare item they would like to escape with

  • @not_requested49 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/368128/nix-de-pipping-or-allow-bots

    You call that an "immersed survivor"

    One that, by definition, tries to play it as safe as possible in order to not die

    These though of course, are the bane of any team as they are mostly interested in surviving themselves, usually because they have a challenge that requires them to escape and/or found a rare item they would like to escape with

    Yeah, I stay away from that term because I've had people claim that immersed means they're still doing gens but smartly hide when the killer is near. Even before the HUD it was pretty easy to tell when someone wasn't participating, but there's no question about it now, so I try to be specific. It's not unusual for me to find those survivors with idle crows, either, which means they're not "playing it safe," they're just refusing to participate.

    I recently watched three survivors refuse to open the exit gate while the fourth ran the killer around. It happened to my friend and I was frustrated beyond belief just watching it, I wasn't even playing. You can't even call that playing safe, it's just stupid: the gens are done, the killer is busy, everyone is still alive and no one is dead on hook, open a door. The HUD showed that no one so much as touched an exit gate.

  • @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3373013#Comment_3373013

    Yeah, I stay away from that term because I've had people claim that immersed means they're still doing gens but smartly hide when the killer is near. Even before the HUD it was pretty easy to tell when someone wasn't participating, but there's no question about it now, so I try to be specific. It's not unusual for me to find those survivors with idle crows, either, which means they're not "playing it safe," they're just refusing to participate.

    I recently watched three survivors refuse to open the exit gate while the fourth ran the killer around. It happened to my friend and I was frustrated beyond belief just watching it, I wasn't even playing. You can't even call that playing safe, it's just stupid: the gens are done, the killer is busy, everyone is still alive and no one is dead on hook, open a door. The HUD showed that no one so much as touched an exit gate.

    Yeah that's pretty dumb lol

    Did the killer have no way out tho? Or was it just usual solo queue

  • I'm guessing de-pipping is an outdated remnant of the old ranking system when it used to be for matchmaking. It's really not necessary anymore now that ranks are just a way to reward players for dedicated playtime every month. It's a source of unnecessary frustration when I lose my pips as a survivor because I get camped/tunneled out of the match in the first 5 minutes through no fault of my own.

  • @not_requested49 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3373049#Comment_3373049

    Yeah that's pretty dumb lol

    Did the killer have no way out tho? Or was it just usual solo queue

    Just usual solo queue. The killer was Skull Merchant and she was running a build entirely centered around skill checks. Even if No Way Out had been in play, the survivors avoided the doors way longer than NWO would require. My friend finally sandbagged one of the other survivors who was crouching in a niche and then he opened an exit gate himself.


    @Caiman said:

    I'm guessing de-pipping is an outdated remnant of the old ranking system when it used to be for matchmaking. It's really not necessary anymore now that ranks are just a way to reward players for dedicated playtime every month. It's a source of unnecessary frustration when I lose my pips as a survivor because I get camped/tunneled out of the match in the first 5 minutes through no fault of my own.

    This is exactly what I keep saying! De-pipping made sense when it was Ranks and those were used for matchmaking, but Grades are only supposed to really represent "time played" to reward BP and time played can't go backwards. There's no reason for de-pipping to remain, it's a frustrating mechanic and makes bad matches feel worse than they already do.