MoM should not work in the Dream World. Let’s not bone Freddy even more.
Like seriously, if mom wasn’t already a screw you to killers with no attack power, Freddy gets boned even further than he already has to deal with in the Adrenaline meta.
These “free hit” perks in general should have no power in the Dream World. Just saying.
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As someone that was a Freddy main for some time, I don't get this whole "Freddy is the worst killer so he needs to be exempt from this" philosophy. Freddy hits with a basic attack it should count.
Not to mention, Freddy is getting a rework. When is the big question but I'm sure he will jump up a few spots on the tier list afterwards. Are we gonna then go and find the next worst killer and make them exempt from stuff?
but freddy is op.
he needs more nerfs.
or i will uninstall.
immediately.
Dude
Freddy is the ONLY killer that gives survivors 7 default seconds headstart. Freddy is the ONLY killer uniquely and unfairly boned by Adrenaline because of this.
He does not need mom added to his list of troubles.
@thesuicidefox
now, i dont want to sound like a smartace, buuutt...
MoM doesnt work if a killer uses his power to hit you, right?
now, yes... freddy does have a basic attack, however he wont hit anyone with it, unless he uses his power on the survivor first. that way he is actually using his power (indirectly, but he still uses it) to hit a survivor, which should deactivate MoM.
its the same as with the nurses hits. a blink hit is achieved with her power, therefore it doesnt count. i bet when she gets a normal lunge attack on a survivor, MoM does work perfectly fine, doesnt it?
even though it probaply aint gonna happen that these get added / stay, i believe this is a good explanation for it ^^
You're info is outdated. MoM is bugged. Blink hits, surprise attacks, phantasm attacks, none of that will stop MoM anymore once it's fixed.
Word, anything that downs with noed should work for mettle of man, bug if it doesn't.
The only killer who moved up a tier with reworks was hag. Trapper, doc, and wraith reworks just made them slightly less godawful.
I appreciate that you still have hope tho.
To this day, it's hard to fathom just how bad Trapper and Wraith used to be. And they still suck.
Correction i did a chainsaw hit with leatherface and apparently mom activated
So you think it's a good idea for the devs to create perks that are completely useless against particular killers? According to 90% of this community, it seems, Freddy has been the worst killer since soon after release. He was released what like 2 years ago almost? Why would you still play him if he's that awful?
I play Freddy pretty regularly and have a lot of fun.
"Trapper, doc, and wraith reworks just made them slightly less godawful."
It's okay to be bad with certain killers. You don't need to blame the devs for everything.
Freddy can do good plays, but they are risky and requires addons. He is absolutely destroyed by rng and that's what is frustrating. Even with both anti skillcheck addons survivor can get skillcheck immediately. Its not survivor that outplayed you, its game that just laughs at Freddy.
Wraith is still bad, adding 1 second speed burst but slowing him while clapping changed literally nothing. He stayed at the same exact spot, but his actually good addons were destroyed. And thus it was nerf. If his power is not meant to help during chases at least increase his speed while invisible as basic ability for better map control.
Um yeah, especially when there are already multiple survivor perks that counter killers back like calm spirit and Doctor. Survivors just have to take that chance. They can still play because I know for a fact from experience you can get bp and survive with no items and just 1 perk. Items and perks are just gravy for survivors, meanwhile killers need them just to compete properly.
I like and play Freddy because in spite of his weaknesses, his play style, perk and add on diversity, and aura reading appeal to me.
Of those 4, only Hag and Wraith got actual reworks. Hag is now top 5, maybe top 3 depending who you ask. And Wraith went from just above Freddy to mid-tier. Trapper "rework" was just changing a few add-ons and his trap set time. All he needs it to start with 2 traps by default (but can only carry 1 after placing them unless he has a bag), and the ability to reset a trap that's on the ground. Do that and he will jump up a bit more. Doc is still a POS character and needs an actual rework, but the changes to him were also very minimal, even compared to Trapper.
So based on the track record, Freddy should be at least mid-tier after the rework. He could be with some very specific QoL changes, he actually doesn't NEED an entire rework.
BASIC ATTACK
Freddy's power does nothing to injure you only place you in a state where you can be injured. Therefore he hits you with a BASIC ATTACK. If his power did something to injure you (eg. Corrupt Purge) then you would be right.
He CaN sToP gEnRuSh WiTh HiS pOwEr BeTtEr ThAn DoCtOr 1!1!1!1!1!
It takes a failed skillcheck to get out of the dream world,a SINGLE skillcheck!
Actually,if multiple people are on a generator and they are all asleep,it only takes one of them to fail the skillcheck,then EVERYONE are going to get out of the dream world.
Thats a lot of pressure,bruh1!1!1! You are just PlAyInG hIm WrOnG1!1!
@katoptris The chainsaw hit should not give you stacks for MoM. However, when it comes to the effect taking place (the hit not downing the surv), MoM protects the surv from all kind of attacks, not only basic attacks (according to the perk's description).
The problem with MoM is that it affects a lot of the weaker killers, not only Freddy. Also think of Doc, Trapper, Wraith...
Besides Freddy needing a rework, MoM needs an adjustment. Either make MoM's effect less powerful or at least give this perk a serious downside.
The survivours were potatoes.
Dude,i also got a 4k with 0 gens completed as Freddy without ruin,doesnt mean sh*t tho, freddy can be easily looped and gen rushed, those are just facts no matter how many times you say "just slow the game down,lul".
You are one strange little man and you have my pity - Buzz Lightyear
Oh hey, speaking of Buzz, Buzz could do cool aerial tricks - but he was still a toy that could not fly. That’s like Freddy - we can have good games IT STILL DOES NOT NEGATE THE FACT HE IS THE WEAKEST KILLER.
Not many people vs Freddy as opposed to other killers, so their inexperience screws them up. But the swf who are sweaty little try hards know how to play against Freddy and it is hell.
Freddy is actually weak af against gen rush. Those 7 seconds survivors are falling asleep mean nothing to gen rushers because UNLIKE THEIR ANIMATION they can keep doing actions at full speed and skill checks break the cycle. Freddy is literally powerless against gen humping and is forced to watch survivors stay on gens as they fall asleep because those gens will be done in 7 seconds or less.
And FUN FACT survivors wake up faster or fast enough to be moot than it takes Freddy to sleep people - AND awake survivors CAN body block asleep survivors from Freddy attacks. Combine those two things together and you’re in for a painful ride with Freddy.
I’m sorry dude, but you’re wrong.
I stand by ur message cause if if you get those competent players ur bound to lose like any other killers except with freddy everything screw you.
Rofl Calm Spirit does not completely counter Doctors power. It counters one particular aspect of the power, and there are probably 10 different parts to it. Hallucinations of Doc, fake pallets, cannot interact when shocked or in tier 3 madness, randomly placed skill checks, fake red stain, etc etc
Typical cop out response. Any time a designated "bad" killer plays well it's because the survivors were "potatoes."
Yes, and not a single one of the gimmicks you mentioned matter against survivors with more than one brain cell.