Freddy's Dead

The new survivor's healing perk has made Freddy's most viable build useless.

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  • Yeah I don't see how. The perk has no special interaction with freddy

  • Freddy has been indirectly nerfed for a long time and Im tired of this #########.

    he keeps getting worse and worse.

    The new lithe buff is just a big middle finger to him.

    Distortion and the aura locker change also say "f u" to Freddy .

  • As a mostly Freddy main in the past 8 months: git gud

    Solidarity is not a threat to him and it's not a common Perk.

  • Solidarity makes the run-and-gun tactic for ambush Freddy a lot less viable.

  • So is Autodidact and its the meta perk of the game. RIP.

  • Autodidact and Solidarity with Empathy and anything for the last perk

  • Dont worry, freddy will be reworked soon in a few years


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  • a Dev did hint at a Killer Rework :)

  • Like 3 months ago plus knowing salty survivors will cry for about a week but i hope the devs don't cave in.

  • Freddy is weak because hes a crap killer case closed. His power does not net faster downs unlike half of the killers. His info gained from his power relys to heavilly on praying that rng does not screw you which is unacceptable and is the definition of a crap killer. His totem protection actively hinders him.

    The new perk solidarity does nothing to freddy and its not even that strong a perk compare to others on offer. Lets not forget he has an absurd weakness to adreanline a meta perk that often breaks any chance of him securing an end game kill.

    Freddy as a killer has more weaknesses then positives. I would take a vanilla killer anyday over having a killer who sits there waiting for permission to attack someone. Anyone who pretends freddy has some secret powerful gameplay is deluded. The vest killers in the game arent strong because map info or how long they can prolong the game.

    The best killers end games fast and have powers that end chases fast no messing around with hit and run. Freddys reward for a successful hit and run is a single hit. His power does not help in jungle gyms or loops. If you want to wait till a persons out of position your losing time and effic8ent teams will gen rush you.

    The meta demands swift chases mobile killers. 2 hits with basic anti loop gameplay does not cut it.

  • Freddy is for killers that like a challenge and think outside the box ;-)

  • Solidarity doesn't affect Freddy more or less than it affects any other killer. Neither do any of the new survivor perks. Hell, Infectious Fright is actually one of his best perks, so this chapter was actually decent for him.

    Freddy actually is far from the worst killer now because everyone else is being indirectly nerfed harder than he is. Just git gud with him and you'll beat most survivors.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/391632#Comment_391632

    @Zarathos

    Freddy’s power is about slowing the game down and being able to monitor and pick out/prioritise which targets to harass. You’re meant to wear the survivors down and make it as difficult as possible to get gens repaired.

    You can’t hope to slow the game down AND expect fast kills. Furthermore if you’re going to narrow the point of playing killer down to only how fast you get kills is akin to believing that the only objective that matters when playing survivor is gen rushing, AND leads me to believe you don’t pay attention to the finer intricacies of this game.

    A Freddy that gets tunnel vision by getting into chases with a survivor without ANY other survivors asleep will always obviously be gen rushed, and will always lose.

    A competent Freddy that’s taken the time to understand that Dream Demon is more than just “this is the only way to hit them” will be difficult to gen rush. ESPECIALLY if asleep survivors are dumb enough to ALWAYS use a gen to wake up (Overcharge or not) only to be put straight back to sleep again, and subsequently (most likely) regress yet another gen. Keep them asleep (provided you’re never being drawn too far from the area you’re trying to control) and the survivors are effectively dealing with worse conditions than ruin, ESPECIALLY with the higher volume of failed skill checks only to be put right back to sleep again within seconds.

    Wear them down. Make them miserable.

    Pick out easy targets or high priority targets with your aura reading (or who’s nearby).

    Keep. Using. Dream. Demon. If only 1 survivor is asleep, abandon chases and search out the others. You simply can’t be gen rushed if using Freddy properly, both via the inherent action penalty and knowing where survivors are.

    @DudeDelicious

    Survivours can spread out and hide close enough to loops but far enough you have to search the surrounding area to re sleep targets. As i have stated the skill check system means rng can screw you if the dice roll poorly. Re sleeping targets is consuming time and drawing you away from killing your targets.

    My observations are built on community recognised standards. Billy, nurse, spirit dominate due to mobility and ability to ensure swift downs. Assuming everyone is playing freedy wrong is the height of arrogance. I m talking about top tier play where survivours who gen rush use a mix of stealth and speed to pump out gens and deny killers all momentum. They maximise loop value and will outrace you in the attrition game.

    Tracking and map info killers always rank low on tiers as the powers strength is spent on tracking over chase and mobility. Doctor is a prime example of this. Hit and run tactics didnt pan out well for the wraith either.

    This also dosent account for large maps a plague for many killers and the reason mobility is favoured over slowly walking your dumb ass across the map to pressure gens. Freddy again is lacking here. Once someone breaks free how are you gonna re sleep them when they ran across the map.

    Lets not undersell the fact that not only did we get another big map with temple of puragation but also this is the third one in a row with mount ormund and yamokas estate making gen juggle pardon the pun a nightmare.

    Freddy has strengths with map info but the reward for capitalising on it should be better then a single hit. Isnt freedy suppose to grow stronger off the fear of his prey how those exposed to his realm become more and more vulnerable to his power. Lets not forget watching your totem smash helpless to do anything.

    Im calling for buffs change his kit so it actually rewards hit and run making a transitioned target incapable of doing an action while transitioning. Also his iridescent add ons are garbage.

  • I like Freddy and strictly play no addons builds, but he is the only killer that cannot be played without using his power. On top of the power requirement is the wait time before any connecting action can be made. Most of the time survivors can be found openly mocking and capitalizing on the wait.

  • I get 4ks without even using my power as freddy! idk what you guys are talking about he is so strong especially without the use of his power if anything he needs nerfs! *lenny face*

  • @Andreyu44 said:

    Freddy has been indirectly nerfed for a long time and Im tired of this #########.

    he keeps getting worse and worse.

    The new lithe buff is just a big middle finger to him.

    Distortion and the aura locker change also say "f u" to Freddy .

    @Andreyu44

    Freddy literally makes Distortion useless. His ability to see survivors in the dream world burns through Distortion's tokens like it's nothing.

  • @KillermainBTWm8 said:

    I get 4ks without even using my power as freddy! idk what you guys are talking about he is so strong especially without the use of his power if anything he needs nerfs! *lenny face*

    @KillermainBTWm8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSVy0fCw6o


  • @KillermainBTWm8 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/392241#Comment_392241

    @Saint_Ukraine what a noob not getting kills without using the power he is sooo strong without his power

    @KillermainBTWm8

    Freddy is OP asf. I've never seen anything like it. They need to delete Freddy; he makes the game unfair.

  • @DemonDaddy said:

    I like Freddy and strictly play no addons builds, but he is the only killer that cannot be played without using his power. On top of the power requirement is the wait time before any connecting action can be made. Most of the time survivors can be found openly mocking and capitalizing on the wait.

    You are an absolute madman and a monster.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    *sigh*

    Dream Demon isn’t just about info/monitoring of survivors, it’s about slowing the game/gen rush down.

    Killers complain so often about gen rush/fast games, and yet here we have BY DEFAULT a killer that mitigates this very issue (when he’s played correctly, and relentlessly puts survivors back to sleep), and then y’all have the nerve to complain about how time consuming it is to exert certain Freddy strategies when Dream Demon buys you time, or dumb survivors keep doing failed gen skill checks that also buy you more time?!??

    If you’re effectively guarding a 4 gen area or 3 gen area as Freddy, AND prioritising keeping as many survivors asleep at a time as often as possible, you can make it near impossible for them to make much gen progress, especially if they’re dumb enough to repeatedly use the gens to wake themselves up.

    Maybe we are playing freddy wrong then.

    Can you upload a bit of your gameplay and show us how to compete with a competent SWF? That would be nice for us worse freddies such that we can learn from you @DudeDelicious

  • @Master said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/392276#Comment_392276

    Maybe we are playing freddy wrong then.

    Can you upload a bit of your gameplay and show us how to compete with a competent SWF? That would be nice for us worse freddies such that we can learn from you @DudeDelicious

    I can actually oblige on help with Freddy.

    Me, How's It Hanging (the best Freddy I've ever seen) and Croque made a Freddy guide for the sole purpose of showing people he's nowhere near as bad as everyone thinks he is. Said guide can be found here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1628612661

    As for videos against good swf, Hanging's YouTube is probably the best place for that. I have a few good videos as well, but they're a bit old (I haven't streamed in ages due to IRL issues).

  • Rode Freddy from R15 all the way to R1. Anyone who thinks he's "######### tier" just needs to "git gud".