Dedicated Server With Chapter 13: Jason Voorhies?

Hi guys.

Yesterday reasoning on the dedicated servers and a future chapter on the license, I was thought that the devs could make the two coincide, or rather, in September release the DLC on license along with dedicated servers.

And here comes the idea:

In September, the chapter will be the thirteenth. What if they took the opportunity to finally release Jason Voorhies?

That is, think about it, it is an opportunity not to be missed and that will never happen again, in a single event releases both the dedicated servers and Jason Voorhies, the number "13" par excellence.

If they want to make a bang, even at the marketing level (even better than what happened with freddy with 8000 people live) can't miss this opportunity.

However, there is to consider that in my opinion, if we don't have the Jason with chapter thirteen, it will mean that we can't have Jason on dbd, this because in my opinion the devs will certainly think of this thing, it would be foolish not to think at least once, so if we don't release it with chapter 13, especially if until then we have not yet had dlc on license, it will mean that the chances of having it in the future will be very low.

What do you think?

Comments

  • @Tarvesh said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343595#Comment_343595

    Does he own the rights to the 2009 reboot? Because if not then you have your loophole right there.

    nope


  • @Tarvesh said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343595#Comment_343595

    Does he own the rights to the 2009 reboot? Because if not then you have your loophole right there.

    The reboot is not a loophole as the ruling bascially covers making any new content going forward not what was before the lawsuit.

    The lawsuit means Horror inc can no longer produce films or new forms of media (games) called F13th in the US, now in theory they could release the iconic character hockey mask look and call it Jason Vorhees chapter but it cant be called or have anything to do with the name F13th.

    Miller can make a film using F13th name and Jason Vorhees but not the hockey mask look.

    Horror Inc also retained the international rights as the law doesnt apply out of the US so again in theory DBD could make a deal with them to make the character available everywhere apart from in the US and use the name F13th, its a minefield right now

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343620#Comment_343620

    The reboot is not a loophole as the ruling bascially covers making any new content going forward not what was before the lawsuit.

    The lawsuit means Horror inc can no longer produce films or new forms of media (games) called F13th in the US, now in theory they could release the iconic character hockey mask look and call it Jason Vorhees chapter but it cant be called or have anything to do with the name F13th.

    Miller can make a film using F13th name and Jason Vorhees but not the hockey mask look.

    Horror Inc also retained the international rights as the law doesnt apply out of the US so again in theory DBD could make a deal with them to make the character available everywhere apart from in the US and use the name F13th, its a minefield right now

    Isn’t BHVR locates in Canada, making the whole conversation moot since they’re not bound to the US law?

  • @Tarvesh said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343644#Comment_343644

    Isn’t BHVR locates in Canada, making the whole conversation moot since they’re not bound to the US law?

    International copyright law isn't restricted to just the USA. Regardless, their product is available worldwide, so they have to make sure it complies with both international law and the laws of the countries in which they intend to sell it.

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343620#Comment_343620

    The reboot is not a loophole as the ruling bascially covers making any new content going forward not what was before the lawsuit.

    The lawsuit means Horror inc can no longer produce films or new forms of media (games) called F13th in the US, now in theory they could release the iconic character hockey mask look and call it Jason Vorhees chapter but it cant be called or have anything to do with the name F13th.

    Miller can make a film using F13th name and Jason Vorhees but not the hockey mask look.

    Horror Inc also retained the international rights as the law doesnt apply out of the US so again in theory DBD could make a deal with them to make the character available everywhere apart from in the US and use the name F13th, its a minefield right now

    but the lawsuit is not finished with the victory of the miller?

  • i bet they'd love to do that.

    however, jason is a licensed killer. that means that the devs can not just put him into the game without having to face lawful consequences. they need to ask the license holders, if it is okay to put him into the game. the problem is, that jason has multiple license holders and some dont want to have him in another game, as he already got his own game.

  • @Mister_xD said:

    i bet they'd love to do that.

    however, jason is a licensed killer. that means that the devs can not just put him into the game without having to face lawful consequences. they need to ask the license holders, if it is okay to put him into the game. the problem is, that jason has multiple license holders and some dont want to have him in another game, as he already got his own game.

    everything you wrote is wrong, read what has been written up to now

  • It'd be amazing if he was added. Untill Miller and Horror Inc. come to an agreement however the rights for Jason and F13 are split between two parties.

    Mabye Behaviour could hold some kind of F13 Geneva peace talks among all parties to work it all out. If Jason was added to this game it make bucket loads of money for all involved.

  • @Niitosky said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343176#Comment_343176

    You have a distorted view of reality. The chapter of Saw is the worst successful, aesthetically horrible, even the map that is among the most hated, and the Pig is the worst character useless and horrible in the all saga, they call it "Saw" but has nothing of Saw that DLC, even at level of plot is wrong since the policeman is already dead when the Pig comes out in the movie.

    Myers instead is the most successful licensed killer of all

    I think your view is distorted. Pig received the spot as the second most successful licensed DLC. The Game was a very valued and refresher idea of smaller maps. The ones who say that its badly designed are salty Survivors who cant bear to have one map that doesnt favour them (and Trappers and Huntresses, I guess).


  • @Niitosky said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343644#Comment_343644

    but the lawsuit is not finished with the victory of the miller?

    It is finished in the sense Miller won the suit and got the rights to the original film and F13th name in the US, he can make a F13th movie with Jason Vorhees for domestic purposes but he cant use the look of the charcter portrayed in any movie after that first one.

    Horror inc can portray the look of the characters after the first one and use the name Jason Vorhees but cannot reference the F13th brand name, unless its for international release.

    There are still many obstacles to overcome and make it all come together and tbh it looks like both parties will have to come to some sort of agreement or a worldwide F13th movie Iconic Jason may never come to light, as I said its a mine field and I dont see why anyone would want to get involved with such a mess right now.

    The more I read about the situation the more complicated it gets.

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343656#Comment_343656

    It is finished in the sense Miller won the suit and got the rights to the original film and F13th name in the US, he can make a F13th movie with Jason Vorhees for domestic purposes but he cant use the look of the charcter portrayed in any movie after that first one.

    Horror inc can portray the look of the characters after the first one and use the name Jason Vorhees but cannot reference the F13th brand name, unless its for international release.

    There are still many obstacles to overcome and make it all come together and tbh it looks like both parties will have to come to some sort of agreement or a worldwide F13th movie Iconic Jason may never come to light, as I said its a mine field and I dont see why anyone would want to get involved with such a mess right now.

    The more I read about the situation the more complicated it gets.

    at this point I wonder, if the rights that received miller are completely useless for the purpose of a new film / new project (since it can't publish outside the US) what was the usefulness of this legal case? What has earned us?

  • at this point I wonder, if the rights that received miller are completely useless for the purpose of a new film / new project (since it can't publish outside the US) what was the usefulness of this legal case? What has earned us?

  • @Niitosky said:

    at this point I wonder, if the rights that received miller are completely useless for the purpose of a new film / new project (since it can't publish outside the US) what was the usefulness of this legal case? What has earned us?

    This all could have been avoided if Horror Inc. gave Miller some cash royalties going on forward but they were greedy and thought they would easily win this case.

  • that is, the one that comes out without damage is always the horror inc. since he still has the rights to the jason character, he just needs to do any project that isn't published in the united states and they have solved it


    miller can't do anything in practice, not even with the rights he has acquired

  • @Niitosky said:

    that is, the one that comes out without damage is always the horror inc. since he still has the rights to the jason character, he just needs to do any project that isn't published in the united states and they have solved it

    The thing is now Horror Inc. can't release any material inside the states that uses the words Friday the 13th, Jason Voorhees, Camp Crystal Lake, or Pamela Voorhees without involving Miller .

    Sure they could release a movie with the iconic Jason look but they couldn't use his name. Talk about awkward.

    They should swallow their pride and get Miller on board with the future of franchise. Miller has said he wants to see more movies and games. The ball is in Horror Inc.'s court right now.

  • @Okapi said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343734#Comment_343734

    The thing is now Horror Inc. can't release any material inside the states that uses the words Friday the 13th, Jason Voorhees, Camp Crystal Lake, or Pamela Voorhees without involving Miller .

    Sure they could release a movie with the iconic Jason look but they couldn't use his name. Talk about awkward.

    They should swallow their pride and get Miller on board with the future of franchise. Miller has said he wants to see more movies and games. The ball is in Horror Inc.'s court right now.

    Yes, but what does it matter to them? just publish it anywhere except in the united states, and you've solved it. Among other things, jason voorhees as far as I understand belongs to horror inc, miller has only the rights of pamela and jason as a child, but of jason voorhees adult no

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343286#Comment_343286

    The lawsuit was concluded last year with Victor Miller being awarded the rights, horror Inc appealed but recent reports have said they have withdrawn it, that's not to say they wont launch an appeal again at some point.

    ok thanks but Miller had the rights only on the Friday of 1980 or even all the other films? And then, if the lawsuit is over, then why the Friday the 13th game can not receive new content?

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343656#Comment_343656

    It is finished in the sense Miller won the suit and got the rights to the original film and F13th name in the US, he can make a F13th movie with Jason Vorhees for domestic purposes but he cant use the look of the charcter portrayed in any movie after that first one.

    Horror inc can portray the look of the characters after the first one and use the name Jason Vorhees but cannot reference the F13th brand name, unless its for international release.

    There are still many obstacles to overcome and make it all come together and tbh it looks like both parties will have to come to some sort of agreement or a worldwide F13th movie Iconic Jason may never come to light, as I said its a mine field and I dont see why anyone would want to get involved with such a mess right now.

    The more I read about the situation the more complicated it gets.

    at this point I wonder, if the rights that received miller are completely useless for the purpose of a new film / new project (since it can't publish outside the US) what was the usefulness of this legal case? What has earned us?

  • @Niitosky said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343736#Comment_343736

    Yes, but what does it matter to them? just publish it anywhere except in the united states, and you've solved it. Among other things, jason voorhees as far as I understand belongs to horror inc, miller has only the rights of pamela and jason as a child, but of jason voorhees adult no

    Do you have any idea how big the USA's market is? Why would they deprive themselves of it and be met with outcry from them? It's a losing move.

  • Friday the 13th franchise box office earnings

    While the above link is just the box office revenue you can see domestically it does really well and not far off international, the US generally is the largest country for most movie sales of any country bar a few movies which have really done well in China.

    In terms of the profit from the movies that could also be more domestically as I am pretty sure international movies ask for more profit from the actual movie theatres and also you have to take into account what they pay for advertising campaign's in each of those international countries.

    There is of course streaming and retail sales profits along with merchandise to consider but I would guess the US also has the largest single market share with those.

  • Is Jason Voorhies the same as Jason "VOORHEES"? come on man if you are gonna post about an icon at least spell their name correctly

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    https://m.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Friday-the-13th

    While the above link is just the box office revenue you can see domestically it does really well and not far off international, the US generally is the largest country for most movie sales of any country bar a few movies which have really done well in China.

    In terms of the profit from the movies that could also be more domestically as I am pretty sure international movies ask for more profit from the actual movie theatres and also you have to take into account what they pay for advertising campaign's in each of those international countries.

    There is of course streaming and retail sales profits along with merchandise to consider but I would guess the US also has the largest single market share with those.

    @Orion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/343742#Comment_343742

    Do you have any idea how big the USA's market is? Why would they deprive themselves of it and be met with outcry from them? It's a losing move.

    you are right but on the name of jason voorhees make a lawsuit for that too? because in reality, even in the first film of 1980, the dying is called jason voorhees, so who should have the rights?

    because the question then is all about the name, because if the rights of the field and the mother has a person, and the name of the killer and the mask has another, if they do not make a deal will never get out

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