Blocking Top of Stairs?

Kemosabe69

So this is a topic that I've always been curious about but have never seen a real direct answer, so hopefully somebody can clear the air for me. I think everyone is familiar with the whole basement stair scenario, where someone is rescued from the basement hooks with borrowed time, and the killer stands at the top of the stairs for a chunk of time until the effect wears off. This has been in the game for a very long time, and I've never heard any news about making any changes, but is this something that was intended by the devs? It seems a little broken to be able to hard counter a perk like that without any real mechanics. Is this something that is a reportable offense? I'm not trying to sound like a whiny survivor main, just hoping to get a clear answer about something that brings me much frustration.

purebalance

@Dreamnomad said:

@Kemosabe69 said:
So this is a topic that I've always been curious about but have never seen a real direct answer, so hopefully somebody can clear the air for me. I think everyone is familiar with the whole basement stair scenario, where someone is rescued from the basement hooks with borrowed time, and the killer stands at the top of the stairs for a chunk of time until the effect wears off. This has been in the game for a very long time, and I've never heard any news about making any changes, but is this something that was intended by the devs? It seems a little broken to be able to hard counter a perk like that without any real mechanics. Is this something that is a reportable offense? I'm not trying to sound like a whiny survivor main, just hoping to get a clear answer about something that brings me much frustration.

It is working as intended and it is not reportable. The only thing that would make it reportable is if the killer kept the survivors trapped for an extended period of time. That is considered taking the game hostage. But waiting 20 seconds or whatever until borrowed time runs out is fine.

So would it be ok if survivors found a way to trap a Myers who was in EW3 somewhere that he couldn't hit anyone as long as they moved after EW3 faded? That's what I'm getting.

Carpemortum

MhhBurgers said:

@purebalance said:

@MhhBurgers said:

@purebalance said:

@Peanits said:
Doing it to counter borrowed time is not bannable. They could just heal to counter that anyway.

Doing it to hold the game hostage is bannable. If you grab a video of it and send it to support, we'll take care of it. Remember to report it in game too.

Ok so if survivors ever find a way to block a hook without the killer being able to hook them that better be left alone too.

Completely breaking the base game = outplaying a broken Perk. Love how your mind works.

But go on, make the basement safe too, see how long your queues get after BHVR starts continuously nerfing killers again.

It's not "outplaying". It's just as broken as using 360. Abusing bad mechanics to get an unfair advantage.

360 is also literally outplaying ppl. the [BAD WORD] you on about.

Yeah, you and I dont usually get along, but I've got to agree with you here haha. It's literally making someone else ######### up a swing and miss.

purebalance

@Carpemortum said:
MhhBurgers said:

@purebalance said:

@MhhBurgers said:

@purebalance said:

@Peanits said:

Doing it to counter borrowed time is not bannable. They could just heal to counter that anyway.

Doing it to hold the game hostage is bannable. If you grab a video of it and send it to support, we'll take care of it. Remember to report it in game too.

Ok so if survivors ever find a way to block a hook without the killer being able to hook them that better be left alone too.

Completely breaking the base game = outplaying a broken Perk. Love how your mind works.

But go on, make the basement safe too, see how long your queues get after BHVR starts continuously nerfing killers again.

It's not "outplaying". It's just as broken as using 360. Abusing bad mechanics to get an unfair advantage.

360 is also literally outplaying ppl. the [BAD WORD] you on about.

Yeah, you and I dont usually get along, but I've got to agree with you here haha. It's literally making someone else [BAD WORD] up a swing and miss.

No, it's literally abusing mechanics of the killer's swing radius. Normal physics and thought process would make someone get hit if they ran towards you as you swung. Instead they circle your body and somehow you're literally unable to hit them if they are that close. Bullshit.

Carpemortum

purebalance said:

@Carpemortum said:
MhhBurgers said:

@purebalance said:

@MhhBurgers said:

@purebalance said:

@Peanits said:

Doing it to counter borrowed time is not bannable. They could just heal to counter that anyway.

Doing it to hold the game hostage is bannable. If you grab a video of it and send it to support, we'll take care of it. Remember to report it in game too.

Ok so if survivors ever find a way to block a hook without the killer being able to hook them that better be left alone too.

Completely breaking the base game = outplaying a broken Perk. Love how your mind works.

But go on, make the basement safe too, see how long your queues get after BHVR starts continuously nerfing killers again.

It's not "outplaying". It's just as broken as using 360. Abusing bad mechanics to get an unfair advantage.

360 is also literally outplaying ppl. the [BAD WORD] you on about.

Yeah, you and I dont usually get along, but I've got to agree with you here haha. It's literally making someone else [BAD WORD] up a swing and miss.

No, it's literally abusing mechanics of the killer's swing radius. Normal physics and thought process would make someone get hit if they ran towards you as you swung. Instead they circle your body and somehow you're literally unable to hit them if they are that close. Bullshit.

So you lose to 360s and 180s. Because they dont run at you. They fake run at you one way and go the other and you miss.  Outplayed. 

Seanzu

@purebalance said:

No, it's literally abusing mechanics of the killer's swing radius. Normal physics and thought process would make someone get hit if they ran towards you as you swung. Instead they circle your body and somehow you're literally unable to hit them if they are that close. Bullshit.

As much as Burgers & I disagree on things we can agree on this, it's just movement, it's how the game works, it's very easy to counter 360ing & besides, killer swing boxes are ridiculous anyway if they miss it's entirely on the killers fault.

MhhBurgers

The only time where 360s will happen is when a survivor knows he's about to get hit like in the open. Just take your time with the swing, take a step back and hold down m1, it's not hard. But then again ur a guy who calls waiting out BT by blocking somebody an exploit. Am I exploiting if a survivor blocks himself in a corner and I rev up my chainsaw with billy/LF?

Dreamnomad

@purebalance said:

@Dreamnomad said:

@Kemosabe69 said:
So this is a topic that I've always been curious about but have never seen a real direct answer, so hopefully somebody can clear the air for me. I think everyone is familiar with the whole basement stair scenario, where someone is rescued from the basement hooks with borrowed time, and the killer stands at the top of the stairs for a chunk of time until the effect wears off. This has been in the game for a very long time, and I've never heard any news about making any changes, but is this something that was intended by the devs? It seems a little broken to be able to hard counter a perk like that without any real mechanics. Is this something that is a reportable offense? I'm not trying to sound like a whiny survivor main, just hoping to get a clear answer about something that brings me much frustration.

It is working as intended and it is not reportable. The only thing that would make it reportable is if the killer kept the survivors trapped for an extended period of time. That is considered taking the game hostage. But waiting 20 seconds or whatever until borrowed time runs out is fine.

So would it be ok if survivors found a way to trap a Myers who was in EW3 somewhere that he couldn't hit anyone as long as they moved after EW3 faded? That's what I'm getting.

If that were theoretically possible, yes. Assuming that it was within the games intended mechanics and not a glitch or bug that was being abused. But since survivors body blocking without being able to be hit isn't intended then I don't see how it could happen.

MhhBurgers

@Dreamnomad said:

@purebalance said:

@Dreamnomad said:

@Kemosabe69 said:
So this is a topic that I've always been curious about but have never seen a real direct answer, so hopefully somebody can clear the air for me. I think everyone is familiar with the whole basement stair scenario, where someone is rescued from the basement hooks with borrowed time, and the killer stands at the top of the stairs for a chunk of time until the effect wears off. This has been in the game for a very long time, and I've never heard any news about making any changes, but is this something that was intended by the devs? It seems a little broken to be able to hard counter a perk like that without any real mechanics. Is this something that is a reportable offense? I'm not trying to sound like a whiny survivor main, just hoping to get a clear answer about something that brings me much frustration.

It is working as intended and it is not reportable. The only thing that would make it reportable is if the killer kept the survivors trapped for an extended period of time. That is considered taking the game hostage. But waiting 20 seconds or whatever until borrowed time runs out is fine.

So would it be ok if survivors found a way to trap a Myers who was in EW3 somewhere that he couldn't hit anyone as long as they moved after EW3 faded? That's what I'm getting.

If that were theoretically possible, yes. Assuming that it was within the games intended mechanics and not a glitch or bug that was being abused. But since survivors body blocking without being able to be hit isn't intended then I don't see how it could happen.

Also let's ignore that survivors being able to block hooks without being hit would completely break the game and make it unplayable while letting BT run out in the basement is just a fuckup for a single survivor.

thekiller490490

This is like camping exept it works much better. It's as viable as Billy blocking you in a corner and insta-downing you.

AlexAnarchy

@Carpemortum said:
AlexAnarchy said:

@MhhBurgers said:

@purebalance said:

@Peanits said:

Doing it to counter borrowed time is not bannable. They could just heal to counter that anyway.

Doing it to hold the game hostage is bannable. If you grab a video of it and send it to support, we'll take care of it. Remember to report it in game too.

Ok so if survivors ever find a way to block a hook without the killer being able to hook them that better be left alone too.

Completely breaking the base game = outplaying a broken Perk. Love how your mind works.

But go on, make the basement safe too, see how long your queues get after BHVR starts continuously nerfing killers again.

heck, they don't even just nerf them but they make killers now who are already at the lowest they can go.

Nice. Someone else on the hivemind hate. So how much legion have you played? None? Yeah. 

Legions fine. Next circle jerk arguement?

protecting your easy win against killer are'nt you? No need to reply, we all already know that's the agenda.

Gamzello

Body blocking is considered a game mechanic for survivors. It’s still risky though depending on the situation but they can’t do it forever.

However, when a killer does it and just does absolutely nothing then honestly it’s just a douche move.

I think if killers body block any survivor, and they’re not afk and down you; I think it’s just considered unlucky for the survivor. It shouldn’t happen as must lmao.

Just take the L like the rest of us 2018 baybee!!! 😩😩😩

Seanzu

@Gamzello said:
Body blocking is considered a game mechanic for survivors. It’s still risky though depending on the situation but they can’t do it forever.

However, when a killer does it and just does absolutely nothing then honestly it’s just a douche move.

I think if killers body block any survivor, and they’re not afk and down you; I think it’s just considered unlucky for the survivor. It shouldn’t happen as must lmao.

Just take the L like the rest of us 2018 baybee!!! 😩😩😩

Let me preface this by saying I have no issue with either side body blocking, unless its for an exorbitant amount of time.

However, comparing Survivor Body blocking & Killer body blocking to each other is silly imo. There's no risk for a killer in body blocking, there is HEAVY risks for survivors body blocking.

Gamzello

SenzuDuck said:

@Gamzello said:
Body blocking is considered a game mechanic for survivors. It’s still risky though depending on the situation but they can’t do it forever.

However, when a killer does it and just does absolutely nothing then honestly it’s just a douche move.

I think if killers body block any survivor, and they’re not afk and down you; I think it’s just considered unlucky for the survivor. It shouldn’t happen as must lmao.

Just take the L like the rest of us 2018 baybee!!! 😩😩😩

Let me preface this by saying I have no issue with either side body blocking, unless its for an exorbitant amount of time.

However, comparing Survivor Body blocking & Killer body blocking to each other is silly imo. There's no risk for a killer in body blocking, there is HEAVY risks for survivors body blocking.

I rarely body block killer unless I’m really trying to save someone but most of the time it doesn’t work lmao. Maybe like once or twice. But yeah it’s pretty dangerous.