I changed my mind, kindred should be made base kit for survivors

Yords

Solo queue has been forgotten about, again. I think kindred should become base kit because it would honestly fix a lot of the problems solo queue has.

I changed my mind after listening to DOWSEY's argument which was that if kindred was base kit, the devs could then balance both SWF and solo queue at the same time. Since they would both be equal of course.

I also think he is right about implementing some sort of ping system for solo queue players as well. I think it would be neat if you pointed at a gen, totem, or chest it would highlight it for a short time for other survivors.

Again, these changes would bring solo queue up to SWF level without buffing SWF, and also allow the devs to balance both at the same time.

ThiccBudhha

Well, pings and base kit kindred WOULD buff swf. That being said, I have ALWAYS been for the idea. Heck, optional voice chat would be fine by me too. I know survivors are afraid of other survivors, but it would go a LONG way into closing the gap and you could just mute the toxic players. You know? Same advice they give to killers regarding end game conduct.

Libervita

I agree.

NOW Many killers choose to push the limits of camping.

Then this change is necessary.

Yords

@ThiccBudhha said:

Well, pings and base kit kindred WOULD buff swf. That being said, I have ALWAYS been for the idea. Heck, optional voice chat would be fine by me too. I know survivors are afraid of other survivors, but it would go a LONG way into closing the gap and you could just mute the toxic players. You know? Same advice they give to killers regarding end game conduct.

Optional voice chat is scary tho lmao

"Claudette you ******* idiot uninstall ######### (keep yourself safe) ur trash omg"

BubbleBuster

while I personally would not mind voice chat, i can see why people are against it. Even in competetive games like Valorant and Cs:GO people dont even use it so I am fine with alternatives.

Things that I would like to see from a communication system:

• icons showing what that survivor is doing (repairing, healing themselves, healing someone else, running, getting chased etc.)
• like a communication wheel were you can choose different things to tell people ("I am going to unhook", "generator nearly done", "killer is near", "help", "i am healing", "i am in a locker")
• pinging perks so you can tell your teammates what perks you have; this should not be shown before the round cuz tryhard lobby dodging;
• pinging killer perks; stuff like "he has rancor", "killer has ruin", "killer has abc" would be nice
• an actual ping system where you can briefly show the aura of an object to survivors
• a ping were you can ping your location

there are a lot of things you could do and even just implementing a few of these would decrease the gap between solo and swf immensely

cant wait for this to get released year 9 lmao

Brokenbones

I think the team part of kindred aura reading would be good basekit

maybe leave the killer aura part to the perk itself or make it extend the range of it (Basekit 8m, Kindred adds another 8m maybe?)

Reshy

@Yords said:

Solo queue has been forgotten about, again. I think kindred should become base kit because it would honestly fix a lot of the problems solo queue has.

I changed my mind after listening to DOWSEY's argument which was that if kindred was base kit, the devs could then balance both SWF and solo queue at the same time. Since they would both be equal of course.

I also think he is right about implementing some sort of ping system for solo queue players as well. I think it would be neat if you pointed at a gen, totem, or chest it would highlight it for a short time for other survivors.

Again, these changes would bring solo queue up to SWF level without buffing SWF, and also allow the devs to balance both at the same time.

I was honestly more hoping for Kindred basekit than borrowed time, though maybe limited to LOS or not working on Undetectable for those who still wanna insidious. Information is a lot better tool to hand players than a blunt tool like an extra health state.

Tsukah

@Brokenbones said:

I think the team part of kindred aura reading would be good basekit

maybe leave the killer aura part to the perk itself or make it extend the range of it (Basekit 8m, Kindred adds another 8m maybe?)

Basekit kindred with 12m killer aura (Think of it as Kindred tier 2)

"BuT thAt'S too StrOng"! Not really lol

Brokenbones

@Tsukah said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3074582#Comment_3074582

Basekit kindred with 12m killer aura (Think of it as Kindred tier 2)

Yeah, or like

Maybe a basekit kindred could be something like - the longer you're on the hook, the more information is given.

15 seconds - All survivors are revealed to each other

25 seconds - Killer's aura is shown within 12m

35 seconds - 16m

idk it's an idea that makes it not super overbearing or punishing for killers who aren't camping

jesterkind

While I'm not against a ping system in DBD, it's undeniably not as good of a fix as some other options. Anything your random teammates have to actually elect to use and know how to use properly just fundamentally isn't going to raise the information level of solo play up all that much at all, let alone up to the levels of SWF.

I'd rather see some passive information conveyance that doesn't require players to actively use it. Something like status icons, alongside some other stuff like (some form of) basekit Kindred and the ability to see your teammate's builds at all times.

MB666

@Yords said:

Solo queue has been forgotten about, again. I think kindred should become base kit because it would honestly fix a lot of the problems solo queue has.

I changed my mind after listening to DOWSEY's argument which was that if kindred was base kit, the devs could then balance both SWF and solo queue at the same time. Since they would both be equal of course.

I also think he is right about implementing some sort of ping system for solo queue players as well. I think it would be neat if you pointed at a gen, totem, or chest it would highlight it for a short time for other survivors.

Again, these changes would bring solo queue up to SWF level without buffing SWF, and also allow the devs to balance both at the same time.

YES but without aura reveal of the killer