Legion, Plague will be super boring / unfun next patch

90 gen speed by default (buffed)

+ 22% thana (buffed)

+ Dying light (lets say on avarage it will be 15% slowdown for consistency)

+ 16% Gift of Pain (If healed, if not, then you are 24/7 Exposed)

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This can make gens take longer than 2 min. Even if it was around 2 min it would be crazy. Now add on top of that you have to mend. Add that Killer might get / use some nice small map. gg.

Forever Freddy is back but it's not Freddy.... it can be almost any killer with some nice snowball / hit & run / permanent injury build.

zZzZzZzZzZzZz....

Comments

  • gift of pain plague

  • And? They already are now

  • @fulltonon said:

    gift of pain plague

    She don't have to play that perk, also some Survivors likes to cleanse anyway againts her.

    You can replace it with some other passive slowdowns (Deadlocked) or some classic regresion perks.

    Either way gens will take forever.

  • @Chocolate_Cosmos said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3040930#Comment_3040930

    She don't have to play that perk, also some Survivors likes to cleanse anyway againts her.

    You can replace it with some other passive slowdowns (Deadlocked) or some classic regresion perks.

    Either way gens will take forever.

    Yeah, but nothing really changed.

  • @ShinobuSK said:

    And? They already are now

    Well if you don't like them allready now then wait for the next update :D

  • @Chocolate_Cosmos said:

    90 gen speed by default (buffed)

    + 22% thana (buffed)

    + Dying light (lets say on avarage it will be 15% slowdown for consistency)

    + 16% Gift of Pain (If healed, if not, then you are 24/7 Exposed)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This can make gens take longer than 2 min. Even if it was around 2 min it would be crazy. Now add on top of that you have to mend. Add that Killer might get / use some nice small map. gg.

    Forever Freddy is back but it's not Freddy.... it can be almost any killer with some nice snowball / hit & run / permanent injury build.

    zZzZzZzZzZzZz....

    They already are

  • @ShinobuSK said:

    And? They already are now

    But now they'll be even more annoying to go against.

    Forever Plagues and Legions gonna fix all of our sleep problems ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ’ค

  • And do not forget, Legion will make you mend. This also slowdown.

    Yeah new meta is looks so boring to me.

  • So the solutions are...

    Rework thana.

    Plague and Legion simply went be getting reworks. Legion just got a QoL adjustment, which is probably the last time BHVR will touch Legion. Plague got one as well a while back. Same thing.

  • Gift of Pain is only the first time healed and only until injured. Pretty irrelevant and still not worth running. The only way you're getting good value out of this is if you're losing really bad and have no map pressure. Perk would need to apply on every unhook after healing to be relevant, not just the first. The fact of requiring a Scourge Hook also isn't irrelevant as spawns can be terrible on many games.

    Dying Light is a meme. The game is over before this becomes relevant.

    Thana buff is nice but it's only really strong on those 2 killers which are already not that strong in the first place. They could use the buff.

    Keep in mind stacking all this slow down might feel bad, but it also means they aren't actually stacking gen regression. So they may repair slowly, but you're not losing progress.

  • Aren't they also really easy to loop?, Like thana I get how it can easily stack but for gift of pain and dying light to proc you need to go down, and against m1 killers a good team can just dunk on them without much effort so the only change from now its the additional 2% on thana plus the 10 seconds on gens.

    With that being said, this will be a pain to new/inexperienced people who somehow go down against m1 jokes, which seeing as its the majority of the playerbase, I think it should be changed/nerfed as it could be unbearable.

  • I don't think Gift of Pain will be any good on Plague. You can stay injured or just deliberately get sick again and it won't do anything. Tbh, it'll mostly be the same with Legion. Good survivors won't bother healing unless the Legion isn't frenzying much.

    Dying Light doesn't really work unless you're playing Plague with apples and Lethal Pursuer and you go ham with Corrupt Purge at the start of the game. And at that point, your build can't be specced for maximum slowdown.

    Thana will be very annoying, though. But it's already annoying, and I prefer Plaything when it comes to game-long slowdown on her anyway. (Legion, Plaything's awful and Thana is king... but I don't play much Legion anyway.)

  • I don't know...People already dc when I played plague and I don't even run those perks.

  • Gift of Pain? On Plague?