"Please Do Not Report Camping" Contradicts the DBD/BHVR Terms of Use
EDIT: The forum gave me an error and made it look like this was deleted/not posted so I ended up reposting it while this one was hidden or something. Here is the other post:
@jaawn said:
I recently learned from the "Game Rules & Report System" section of the forum, that camping is listed under actions which are "not considered bannable offenses" and thus should not be reported. This is a problem.
Camping goes against BHVR's own Terms of Use (viewable here: https://www.bhvr.com/terms-of-use/) Under Section E. "Rules of Conduct", it says it is a violation of the Terms of Use to "Interfere with the ability of others to enjoy playing a BHVR Service or take actions that interfere with or materially increase the cost to provide a BHVR Service for the enjoyment of all its users."
Singling out an individual player, hooking them, and then standing there until they die on first hook is absolutely interfering with others' ability to enjoy playing the game. This should be reportable, bannable, and BHVR should take steps to steer players away from this behavior through gameplay design. It is toxic, bad for the game, and feels an awful lot like harassment (often offending killers will even stand there and taunt you/swipe at you with attacks while you can do nothing. Mocking your inability to play and enjoy the game until you die with no recourse.)
Under that same "Game Rules & Report System" post, the stated goal is "to find the players who are creating a bad game experience and punish them appropriately, making the game a better place." Camping absolutely creates a bad game experience. I see it way, way more often recently than I have before and it needs to be addressed.
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I'm sorry but that is a misinterpretation of the EULA/ToS - part of the game cannot be considered under this section. The ToS/EULA is referring to things that are against the game rules. The EULA/ToS work in conjunction with the game rules, not against them.
In the official "Game Rules & Report System" post on this forum, it says "In case of conflict between the EULA and this page, the EULA will prevail."
yes but this isn't conflict as I explained these work in conjunction with one another not against.
The TOS and EULA say it is a violation to "Interfere with the ability of others to enjoy playing a BHVR Service...".
These statements conflict with the language on the rules page which asks players not to report "camping", because of the specific type of camping where a survivor is hooked at the start of a match and then is stubbornly camped until death on their first hook, thus prematurely halting their ability to play the game, removing opportunity for getting points/rewards/etc. The documents may work "in conjunction" with each other in general, but in this instance they conflict. Thus the EULA takes precedence and this behavior should be treated as a violation. It doesn't mean all actions which could be called "camping" are somehow a violation, but the kind where someone basically doesn't get to play the game definitely is.
Being on the Hook is playing the game, which is why it's not a violation
This guy is still here? lol
I'm closing this, the question has been asked and answered.