Punishement of the Damned

lemonsway

Can this special ability get some love please? IT's hard as balls to hit someone and the charging and recovery are super punishing.

Vyne456

Now i'm confused...

ThanksForDaily

@lemonsway said:

Can this special ability get some love please? IT's hard as balls to hit someone and the charging and recovery are super punishing.

Charging and recovery are super punishing..? Yea....

DelsKibara

Weren't you the same person who said that Deathslinger should have the ADS nerf and cooldown before shooting?

GoodBoyKaru

I wholeheartedly disagree, please don't change it and make me relearn it all because I've spent too long learning him now to let that go to waste

lemonsway

@DelsKibara said:

Weren't you the same person who said that Deathslinger should have the ADS nerf and cooldown before shooting?

Very different powers. DeathSlinger can shoot faster and recover faster for a power with more range and less counterplay. Pyramid Head is slower readying up the power, the power itself travels slower and the recovery is bigger aswell wether you hit or Miss.

Pyramid Head needs to use 20% of his total power, meaning he can only do 5 PotD before having to recharge. Slinger reloads and that's that. Ready for another faster shot.

lemonsway

@GoodBoyKaru said:

I wholeheartedly disagree, please don't change it and make me relearn it all because I've spent too long learning him now to let that go to waste

I understand that but learning timmings that are weird instead of fluid is just as bad as relearning better timmings.

lemonsway

@ThanksForDaily said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/285875/punishement-of-the-damned

Charging and recovery are super punishing..? Yea....

Wether you hit or miss the recovery is the same 2.75 seconds. You can only do 5 PotD for every 100 charges of power and you're gonna waste Charges for Trails of Torment aswell so you might even have realistically only 3 shots of PotD per 100 charges.

GoodBoyKaru

@lemonsway said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2547848#Comment_2547848

Wether you hit or miss the recovery is the same 2.75 seconds. You can only do 5 PotD for every 100 charges of power and you're gonna waste Charges for Trails of Torment aswell so you might even have realistically only 3 shots of PotD per 100 charges.

You also don't need all 1520% charge to use it so it can easily be spammed. You recover enough in the 2.75s cooldown to use it again immidiately after. It really isn't difficult.

Plus you'll only be laying trails at loops, really. You lose too much time otherwise and that's an easy way of throwing.

@GoodBoyKaru said:

So a few attentive people may recognise this from a comment I made yesterday (technically it was 24 minutes into today but let's not talk semantics). A couple of people suggested I make it a real post because "That's an excellent guide, very well put together." So, here I am. I've added a few more things so it's still worth a read.

This will cover what is, in my opinion, his best build and why, as well as a few tips on playing him & a few videos.

So hey, it's me- GoodBoyKaru, your friendly neighbourhood Pyramid Head main- here to give some swift Tips and Tricks(tm) to help make you a better Pyramid Head player!

For the record, this was made during DBD Patch 4.7.2

Build

PERKS

My personal favourite and imho strongest build is this:

• Corrupt Intervention

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Crucial early-game slowdown on a killer without mobility, allows him to stall the game massively because survivors know that if they get found they're doomed.

• Pop Goes The Weasel

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It's the second best gen regression perk in the game, Ruin is too volatile to be anywhere near reliable on him because, again, no movement speed, he needs gen perks because he cannot move around the map quick enough, 11/10. "But you don't hook pe-" WRONG. You should be getting plenty of value out of PGTW and if you're overcaging then you're taking your map pressure and throwing it out the window.

• Barbeque and Chili

https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SC8THLXSY3RP/image.png

Now, you could obviously put other perks here like Infectious Fright (amazing snowball), Tinkerer (Undetectable is nice and it helps tell you where to go but again no movement speed) or Discordance (amazing info, can sometimes do nothing about it). However I say BBQ because I like the perk and also because bloodpoints.

• I'm All Ears

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Hands down the best perk in the game for Pyramid Head, that's six seconds of wallhacks. I cannot stress how valuable this is with his power- that is a guaranteed free hit in 9/10 situations. To show what I mean, I've linked a timestamped video below of where IAE comes in so clutch- continues to 5:16 in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs4rvkppqs&t=296s

(you can watch the whole thing if you really want I'm proud of the game).

An honourable mention here goes to Ruin/Undying over Pop/Corrupt. As I've mentioned before, Tinkerer isn't a great perk on him due to his lack of speed, but the same goes for Ruin/Undying. You don't have the map mobility to defend your totems, especially if they spawn further away, and you'll probably end up losing two perks before 2 gens go. Corrupt/Pop is just more consistent in my experience.

ADD-ONS

So, his add-ons aren't great. The best ones, by far, are range add-ons which, when combined, extend his POTD by up to 2.5m (10.5m total). These are Burning Man Painting (Rare), Wax Doll (Uncommon), and Black Strap (Common), which ass +1.5m, +1m, and +0.5m respectively.

tips

Okay so rule number one is to not break pallets. Sounds weird but, just trust me.

His power is incredibly strong in a chase- so much so that if a survivor commits to an animation they die. If you don't break pallets (with some exceptions like God pallets) you can do amazing things. Because who doesn't want more opportunities to win a chase, like, instantly? It turns incredibly safe pallets into death sentences

To show what I mean, here's another timestamped clip. Ends at 10:58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu3X5o9GpjY&t=646s

Learn the range of the power. 8m is specific and sometimes you think you can hit things and you can't. You need to be very careful, especially when playing with range add-ons for so long, because it can and will screw with your perception.

Adapt to the survivors you're facing. A lot of players will fake taking an animation, go to the side slightly to bait your POTD or your cancel, and then commit to the animation. If you turn to the side and release, you'll catch a lot of these survivors out and get a hit. It's really satisfying to do. Alternatively some survivors will commit to the animations regardless, in which case you'll know to aim in the centre. Other survivors will just hold W and pre-drop pallets, in which case you know to leave them because you'll really struggle catching up, or do not use your power.

I cannot stress that enough. If a survivor is pre-dropping W key gaming, do not use your power. M1 killer them.

Don't overcage and don't stress about torment. If a survivor loops you, they'll get tormented. That's just kinda how it works- you stick your knife in, follow them around a loop, and release your POTD after tracking their movements.

To see what I mean we return to the first video, again timestamped. Clip ends at 1:36.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs4rvkppqs&t=83s

See how I hug the car, turn the camera and use the power to hit him out of animation lock? Had he kept running, easy torment too.

In my opinion, only cage someone in one of four scenarios:

• You're afraid of a DS (just please don't tunnel I'm begging you)
• You're afraid of an Unbreakable (much more likely)
• You can immidiately get into another chase
• It would place you into a Pressure Point Of No Return (name pending).

What I mean by that last point is that there comes a time in a DBD game where the killer will hit a Pressure Point Of No Return, where the survivors physically cannot come back from the amount of pressure and momentum you're building. The best example of this as Pyramid Head is where you split the map through cages. You have two downed survivors. Cage one, hook the other. Nobody is on a generator, you have a BBQ proc to interrupt the person saving the cage or the hook, and now the last person must save both people. On especially large maps, like Mother's Dwelling, or multi-storied ones, like Midwich, this can force people into second stage and you've won the game at 5 gens. It's more common than you'd think.

If you cage at other times you're probably wasting pressure you could've gotten from a hook.

Learn where you can and can't lay trails. In front of totems and lockers? Amazing. In front of a gen? Not at all, it becomes a Restricted Trail Element and disappears after a few seconds. The DBD Wiki has a section on this which I'll just paste below.

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I'd highly, highly suggest reading the wiki page on his power as it's really useful in understanding the fundamentals and giving actual values to words. Here it is:

https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Pyramid_Head

Finally, learn where you can and can't use POTD. It sounds like a simple thing but learning where you can and can't use it, however there's a lot to it. For example, learning how vertical changes affect it. Did you know if you release his power on a slope going up it'll fail, same with releasing it on a slope going down. However, if you're barely off of the slope it'll travel down it, but only if it isn't too steep.

It's nuts but knowing where you can and can't actually have an ability is, funnily enough, pretty important.

A few more quick-fire tips:

• Don't just go for animation lock shots. People expect these and adapt. Be unpredictable to catch them off guard and get easy hits. Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U1k10I-zG4&feature=emb_logo

Bet they didn't expect that one :p

Needless to say that was where I hit a Pressure Point Of No Return and poor Jakey couldn't pick up the scraps.

• Don't spam his power. You waste too much time. Be precise, predict, and adapt to your opponents.
• Don't spam his trails. You move at 110% and you already lack a movement ability, you waste too much time.
• Tunneling isn't the best strategy. I know it seems like it because cages but again, you do not have a movement ability. Survivors can and will facefuck generators and ruin your day substantially.
• Dead Dawg Saloon and Hawkins are both maps you never press M2 on ever. Play like a default M1 killer because the map design prevents you from using your power. They're pretty much auto-loss maps, ngl, unless the survivors really badly mess up.
• Play survivor. Learn where survivors move and how they path, shoot POTD to hit them. That's what I did in that last clip.

And, yeah, that's about it. If people have any questions please let me know and I'll try to answer them as best I can, though I think this is comprehensive enough.

This may help learn what is and isn't a good idea in playing him

GoodBoyKaru

@lemonsway said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2547927#Comment_2547927

I understand that but learning timmings that are weird instead of fluid is just as bad as relearning better timmings.

The timings aren't even bad though lmfao

Yamaoka

@lemonsway said:

Can this special ability get some love please? IT's hard as balls to hit someone and the charging and recovery are super punishing.

The devs intentionally made it difficult to use his ranged attack (charge up phase, no strafing to make it difficult to keep track of survivor movements while dragging the Great Knife, long recovery time after a shot and absolutely no movement speed during the recovery, built-in projectile delay) because:

1) It goes through walls.

2) it does direct damage (unlike let's say Nemesis' tentacle which merely infects you on the first hit).

3) it's an "area of effect" attack which means it can "potentially" hit all survivors at the same time.

Therefore they won't give it any love I'm afraid.

MrDardon

Well.. it's punishing because it's called.... Punishment of the Damned.

Ok, I'll go into my corner now.

lemonsway

@Yamaoka said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/285875/punishement-of-the-damned

The devs intentionally made it difficult to use his ranged attack (charge up phase, no strafing to make it difficult to keep track of survivor movements while dragging the Great Knife, long recovery time after a shot and absolutely no movement speed during the recovery, built-in projectile delay) because:

1) It goes through walls.

2) it does direct damage (unlike let's say Nemesis' tentacle which merely infects you on the first hit).

3) it's an "area of effect" attack which means it can "potentially" hit all survivors at the same time.

Therefore they won't give it any love I'm afraid.

Hitting people through walls requires them to be close enough to the wall , PH having aura reading or it's pure guessing.

It should do direct damage for the commitment it is. So should Nemesis Tentacle.

in a Straightline line yes it's aoe type attack but it's width is very narrow. So unless they line up which the mostly wont unless they are doing an unhook or they are on a gen you most likely only hit 1 person if they don't evade it.

I don't deny it's strength i just think there's very safe measures in place for no reason and i can tell this about every killer power. Especially the cooldown being 2.75 sec wether you hit or miss with it.