I'm flattered, but...
Look I'm very flattered you think my hag is high mmr, especially considering I dont enjoy playing her but.... like why? I hardly ever play her, doubt iv done more than 20games since her release so why is she so high up compared to killers I always win with?
BTW I can play her but she is one of my weakest killers, I just dont enjoy the playstyle of her even less now iv been placed way above my comfort zone lol
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Oh no... I feel you tho. With my hardly touched killers I am in way over my head as well x.x
However my hag and trapper are the reverse (my most played killers) :< I play them weekly and I think I am pretty good with both... but I have been getting 4k most matches which is odd. Before mrr I was maybe 1-3 kills a match against old red ranks.
Maybe I am not as good with them as I thought but I do find the match ups odd.
The way things are going it's going to be everyone playing survivors and the only one playing Killer will be Otz.
I think this is what BHVR wanted all along.
It just HAS to be individually sbmm for each killer. I've never played nurse or blight and I don't plan to as I'm getting tough games with my mains
As far as I have heard. Killer MMR at the beginning is kinda in the same region. I would say an average of all your killers. But from there, when you play a few games with each killer, it will correct itself.
I have noticed it with Doctor. I was getting survivors whom were too efficient for me. After like 4 games it became better.
How exactly do you know that you are high MMR on Hag though?
It's to give high mmr survivors an easy win so they feel special.
I think overall player mmr is being to heavily weighted, sure it should be weighted up having it be that close to your player mmr is unfair expecting you to lose 30-40 games just to go back to average matches with a new killer is too much, I think playing a new killer mmr should be more volatile so you if preform poorly early on you drop to where you need to be faster
They have literally always said that it would work like that though?
I will look for it later. Let’s see if you will ignore it then or accept that
Huh? In the post you are quoting, they literally explain how each killer has its own mmr...
Nothing about their statement is false though...
Removing Pinhead's voiceline without explanation. Shady. Explaining how mmr works that was reiterated AND confirmed via data mine... Not shady.
I am currently busy with something irl, that’s why I said later.
but… getting easier matches is not equivalent to starting at the lowest mmr. As peanits has said in the post you quoted, a new killers rating start with an mmr that is based on your other ratings. It’s not like you are starting with your highest rating.
there is no contradiction there.
They are not mutually exclusive. The word they used was "easier" and we literally have a numerical value that I will not state, because they get really sensitive about it. Your mmr is BASED on your average and then individually adjusts from there because it is a separate value.
People are confusing this as your average mmr is being used for every killer when that is just the base line for NEW killers. If this guy was not a great Hag, but still got 4k after 4k under the old system while they were collecting data, it will take longer to adjust than if he had never played Hag before. But even if he never played Hag before, it would still recognize that he is generally a high mmr killer and not feed him baby survivors.
It still does what they claimed it does. There is no lie or deception. People just assumed it would put you at the lowest for whatever reason when basically no competitive game EVER does that. Even those kids who got 0-30 in CoD aren't instantly matched into protected brackets. They have to "earn" their way down with consistently poor performance.
From: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/256979/news-skill-based-matchmaking-recap#latest
One of the main focuses of this test was to try a different approach to how we handle “unrated” players. An unrated player is someone who doesn’t have any matches played that have been tracked by the system. Usually, these players are new. However, they can also be people returning from a break! In this test, we only used matches from the past 3-ish weeks to build our SBMM (rather than our customary months of play data). This meant that our initial SBMM values for most players were a little inaccurate and required some additional games to adjust.
"How did the test go?"
This is the way it's always worked to avoid some people getting smurfed on.
It is based on your other killers is what they said, so I am just assuming average. But that is not really the point, that is the base value. If that value is too high, it will adjust accordingly and lower itself, presumably in less games than characters with stable mmr. So while I suppose you are correct and that first game is not easier, ideally all of the following games should be.
thank you very much for this!
@xboxandswitch there you have confirmation that they actually said they were using this system for new killers on experienced killer-players.
On the first part: only the initial MMR of a Never before played killer is based on other killer. From that point on after playing the new it is individualized
I never claimed they have stated this in an official press release though??
also. You were the one claiming something without being able to back it up (saying they were not honest about it) Then you were calling me snippy but now you are acting like that?
You are still insisting them saying ‚easier matches‘ is equivalent to starting at the lowest? Easier is a comparative word and they especially used it to compare to matches with a killer you are performing very good with. So using an average from all your killers ratings will make the rating lower than your good ratings.
sis.
Then, Miss, what are you saying?
where were they not honest?
Well if played the game since its release, both sides always rank 1. The amount of experience I have in the game allows me to quickly understand the skill of the players from awareness, how they run loops, do they panic, do they know killer counters, hows their efficiency etc.
I just dont really play hag much because I dont like the playstyle but it's weird how she seems so high yet on others where I win more often and by a bigger margin arent as high (still get weak links that dont know half the stuff I listed before)
Well I cant see the mmr, I like to think I can see good and bad players though and their skill level. Mind you I did verse a swf (confirmed through profiles) so maybe that impacted me alot more as hag as a 110 trap based killer