Give killer hatch perk

megaweenieman

So it can be a legit race for finding hatch vs those running left behind

Majin151

As someone who plays killer more there is no need as you aren't going to be encountering people enough to warrant it

megaweenieman

@Majin151 said:

As someone who plays killer more there is no need as you aren't going to be encountering people enough to warrant it

Care to be explain? As a rank 1 killer (not that it means all that much) I think it would be fair to even the odds when you’re not on the slugging for 4K type

megaweenieman

Why did this get closed? It was an innocent suggestion

Majin151

Because most killers are naturally faster also because left behind is generally not used by a majority of survivors also imo I think it would be a wasted perk for a killer especially if behaviour decides to make it one of a new killer teachables

megaweenieman

@Majin151 said:

Because most killers are naturally faster also because left behind is generally not used by a majority of survivors also imo I think it would be a wasted perk for a killer especially if behaviour decides to make it one of a new killer teachables

Yeah but I mean wasted perk is a subjective thing. I think there are lots of killer perks that could be considered more than wasteful. Also, sure killers may have a 10-15% speed advantage but how much does that matter when the survivor knows where the hatch is and you have to go searching?

megaweenieman

@[Deleted User] said:

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

That is my initial reaction towards the idea.

Sure, it's interacting with an existing asset in a new way, but IMO the Killer is already able to roam the map with impunity, they can still just slug the 3rd survivor to find it (even though I despise that), and they are faster by default.

With The Hatch's current implementation, I don't think it's necessary, at least if it's just showing you the Aura of the Hatch at all times.

I unno, why not do something like:

Bloodwarden 2.0 - The Entity's Drainpipe

While the Exit Gates are Open, the Aura of The Hatch is revealed to you within 16/20/24m. If The Hatch is closed, you may Stomp on it to open it. The Hatch re-opens and cannot be closed, and all Exit Gates are blocked by The Entity for the remainder of the Trial.

I think this is a creative idea! In terms of the previous points you made check out my post right above yours :)

Majin151

It matters a ton if the killer also knows where the hatch is and again left behind isn't used that much I only seen one game where it was used and it was on a bill running his default perks(assuming he was going for that achievement where you use a survivor and escape with only their perks) and even than he didn't get a chance to use left behind as the game ended in a 2k wouldve been 3k if the bill didn't protect his teammate really well(and I gave him hatch after downing him for his devotion)

TheClownIsKing

@megaweenieman said:

So it can be a legit race for finding hatch vs those running left behind

Just make it a feature of Zanshin Tactics. Once the hatch is open, Zanshin reveals it’s aura within the range of the current tier of the perk.

Bwsted

Waste of a perk slot. Just like Left Behind, unless you have a key.

I'd have nothing against this perk being made except that it would just add to the pile of useless perks.

RakNieborakYT

@[Deleted User] said:

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

That is my initial reaction towards the idea.

Sure, it's interacting with an existing asset in a new way, but IMO the Killer is already able to roam the map with impunity, they can still just slug the 3rd survivor to find it (even though I despise that), and they are faster by default.

With The Hatch's current implementation, I don't think it's necessary, at least if it's just showing you the Aura of the Hatch at all times.

I unno, why not do something like:

Bloodwarden 2.0 - The Entity's Drainpipe

While the Exit Gates are Open, the Aura of The Hatch is revealed to you within 16/20/24m. If The Hatch is closed, you may Stomp on it to open it. The Hatch re-opens and cannot be closed, and all Exit Gates are blocked by The Entity for the remainder of the Trial.

That is really interesting, it just needs a closer look and to be tested in practice and rework it a bit. I like it :D

TheClownIsKing

@Bwsted said:

Waste of a perk slot. Just like Left Behind, unless you have a key.

I'd have nothing against this perk being made except that it would just add to the pile of useless perks.

@RakNieborakYT said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2350235#Comment_2350235

That is really interesting, it just needs a closer look and to be tested in practice and rework it a bit. I like it :D

Again, I don’t think it needs to be an extra perk. Make it an additional feature of Zanshin Tactics.

RakNieborakYT

@TheClownIsKing said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2350341#Comment_2350341

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2350351#Comment_2350351

Again, I don’t think it needs to be an extra perk. Make it an additional feature of Zanshin Tactics.

but zanshin tactics is already a survivor perk lookalike and doesn't need it

TheClownIsKing

@RakNieborakYT said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2350365#Comment_2350365

but zanshin tactics is already a survivor perk lookalike and doesn't need it

That makes no sense.

immoraldemise

In the current state of perks, maybe later. If they take my key change, then i already suggested one, as base kit. I'd link the suggestion but it was given to a fog whisperer, since BHVR doesn't take much that we say to heart. Because there's a LOT to weed through.

But to just have a Killer version of Left Behind is really a waste. Territorial Imperative would be less of a waste.