Useless vanilla 4.4 killers need a refresh
Vanilla 4.4 killers ( excluding trickster because his m2 is fine ) feel slow and sluggish and they should all be upgraded to 4.5 . I know that they have ranged attacks but they are only 50/50 so if the survivor goes right or left the killer misses and they can hide under any object which they spam a lot and huntress or DS can't hit them . This makes playing them not fun and they all need a refresh to 4.5 . Also bloodlust has been nerfed and that adds to their current slugishness .
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When and how was Bloodlust nerfed?
Excluding trickster? He is the weakest 110% killer, if not the weakest one in the entire game.
Idk I feel like you're trolling if you're saying that trickster is better than huntress, slinger, and the other 110 killers. So I will ignore this post.
Deathslinger is one of the most oppressive killers in 1vs1, he can zone you by simply existing, you want to make him 4.5? oof.
Maybe outside the chase, 4.5 would be fine on them, but I'm still not too sure about that.
Okay but imagine Huntress or Deathslinger with normal movement speed. And Hag is strong too.
They are most certainly not useless except for trickster.
Trickster downs you with just 12 knives 6 if you have no mither and he takes 0.5 seconds between shots and if you get hit your movement and speed is stunned for 0.5 seconds besides going forward if that isn't strong I don't know what is and he can have upto 60 or more knives . And @Gosh bloodlust was shadow nerfed , in old bloodlust if you lost sight of the survivor you still had 5 seconds of bloodlust to put him in your fov again now if you lose vision of the survivor you instantly lose bloodlust . The same applies when you get stunned with old BL if you got stunned you would not lose it now you do . And deathslinger is pretty useless his gun chain can be very easily countered and breaks to easily so you either get stunned if the survivor is still hooked allowing them to escape or you don't get a hit if you don't 100 percent reel them in but m1 not to get stunned @kumak . In general he is slow and sluggish . If you all don't agree with what I said BHVR will keep doing nerfs to make new killers feel new/strong when in fact all BHVR does is nerf older killers to make new ones feel strong/stronger , nemesis is strong but BHVR will nerf him to make the next killer feel strong and fresh its what they have done to almost all the killers and the killers that barely anyone plays they just ignore and not fix them when they need to be reworked to still be fun to play thats why I made the OP to change vanilla killers to 4.5 .
Trickster downs you with just 12 knives and he takes 0.5 seconds between shots and if you get hit your movement and speed is stunned for 0.5 seconds besides going forward if that isn't strong I don't know what is and he can have upto 60 or more knives . And @Gosh bloodlust was shadow nerfed , in old blood lust if you lost sight of the survivor you still had 5 seconds of bloodlust to put him in your fov again now if you lose vision of the survivor you instantly lose bloodlust . The same applies when you get stunned with old BL if you got stunned you would not lose it now you do . And deathslinger is pretty useless his gun chain can be very easily countered and breaks to easily so you either get stunned if the survivor is still hooked allowing them to escape or you don't get a hit if you don't 100 percent reel them in @kumak . In general he is slow and sluggish . BHVR just keeps on nerfing older killers to make the new ones feel strong and just ignore the ones no one uses but if you all are ok with this they will continue doing this whenever a new killer releases to the point where vanilla 4.4 killers will be completely redundant .