Lots of DCs for scratched mirror Myers

AgentPug

I've been going for some adepts today cause of the rank reset bug and decided for Myers it would be fun to try out scratched mirror.

Long story short I kept doing really well but only getting ruthless with just a couple emblem points away from merciless because of an early DC.

The last game I did I had 2 people DC with one of them then waiting the entire game to trash talk me for using scratched mirror on Gideon meat plant.

Do people not like scratched mirror Myers? I always thought he was a fun jump scare playstyle that people enjoyed playing against and I personally think it's extremely fun to play against since it's actually scary if they're good.

I'm curious what the general consensus on how fun it is to play against scratched mirror since I never really thought about it that much.

Dito175

I think he's annoying, but mainly because I'm really bad at looping and not hearing the terror radius I can't prepare myself ahead, but I dont DC if I see the match isn't going anywhere I just suicide on hook.

deckyr

i hate playing against scratched mirror myers, it feels like there's nothing i can do. i legit just don't know how to counterplay it.

but i hate people who DC a whole lot more than anything any killer can do.

glitchboi

Man, people really do that? Scratch Mirror Myers is fun and scary to go against. Plus he's pretty weak anyways, he's only really good in Lery's or Hawkins.

eleventbh

He's not fun to go against on indoor maps, and not fun to play on outdoor maps.

Moundshroud

@AgentPug said:

I've been going for some adepts today cause of the rank reset bug and decided for Myers it would be fun to try out scratched mirror.

Long story short I kept doing really well but only getting ruthless with just a couple emblem points away from merciless because of an early DC.

The last game I did I had 2 people DC with one of them then waiting the entire game to trash talk me for using scratched mirror on Gideon meat plant.

Do people not like scratched mirror Myers? I always thought he was a fun jump scare playstyle that people enjoyed playing against and I personally think it's extremely fun to play against since it's actually scary if they're good.

I'm curious what the general consensus on how fun it is to play against scratched mirror since I never really thought about it that much.

Most real Players (and by real I mean those out of the Potato Ranks) enjoy going up against Spooky. I rarely have anyone disconnect against me playing the build. Of course, I go against Red Ranks MOST of the time. Spooky Myers is one of the few matches where the old horror feel comes back, and the game isn't unlike when you first started playing. Bad sports are going to be bad sports, and I suspect those same losers who disconnected against your Myers build will also disconnect if they think they were downed too soon, don't like the map, or if it is ANY Killer they don't understand. Don't take it personal. Most of the time, as you progress forward, people won't disconnect against Spooky. You are still playing against Players who simply can't operate without the Terror Radius to warn them, so they get frustrated.

Moundshroud

@deckyr said:

i hate playing against scratched mirror myers, it feels like there's nothing i can do. i legit just don't know how to counterplay it.

but i hate people who DC a whole lot more than anything any killer can do.

I'm going to help you out, to my own detriment since I play Spooky Myers more than any other Build. :)

1. Identify quickly that you are facing a Spooky Myers. The Killer putting in an indoor map is suggestive of it, but by no means a reliable way to tell. If you notice the Myers never seems to be standing still and stalking you to juice up, but immediately vanishes around corners and whatnot, you know what you are dealing with. Naturally if it is taking them a LONG time to Tier up and they haven't seemed like bad Players, that is a dead give away. The sooner you know you are dealing with the Spooky variety the sooner you can take the right steps, which are the OPPOSITE of how you deal with every other Myers.
2. Don't hide; always keep moving if you can. Spooky always knows where you are with 100% accuracy. A good one is always angling to get you and will go the long way around to get that fun jump scare. If you keep moving, they have a hard time doing so because they are slow, and the long way around to intercept is beyond their normal 105% speed.
3. Heal in the middle of large open areas so you can see him coming. On Midwich the middle of a long corridor is great for this, but on other maps, a big dead zone you would normally avoid like the plague is PERFECT. Remember what I said about opposites? Terrain is often more helpful to a Spooky than it is to you, use it when you need to gain distance not just to break line of sight. He always has line of sight.
4. Use spotters. If you are working a Generator the natural inclination is for the other guy to get on the Generator with you to go faster. You get more out of having that one guy not working the Generator and spotting the approaches to tip you off that Myers is coming. The ability to keep line of sight is optimal, and he loves coming around corners. A spotter can prevent that.
5. Break up on Generators to the four winds. Spooky Myers is super slow and simply cannot maintain Generator pressure if you all break up. The more you stay together, the better it is for him.
6. Stay the hell away from the basement. Stay the hell out of chests. Don't put yourself in a position to give him grabs or to block you in. A good Spooky Myers is always looking to dead end you or let you start on an objective so he can grab you.
7. Remember he isn't Camping, he is doing a sort of Proxy Camping to try and intercept you at the Hook while he does short range patrols to pick up people in his wall hack sweeps. This means you should NEVER assume he isn't going to step out and grab you while you unhook. A good Spooky is always going to choose hooks with doorways and corners by them and never in halls or open areas if it can be helped. Just assume he is going to appear so you can break off the unhook and hopefully turn his grab into a hit so then you finish the unhook.
8. Spooky LOVES Corrupt Intervention even more than any other Myers (or Killer really) because it all but guarantees he will find you in the first thirty seconds because all non-corrupted Generators can be put in range of his wall hack most of the time. An indoor Killer using Corrupt is almost always a Spooky Myers.
9. Bear in mind that a Spooky will proxy camp slugged Survivors and Generators too, more than any other Killer because they can.
10. Last but not least, Spooky Myers is an ambush Predator. The good ones do NOT chase you unless they have the luxury. Most break off chases within 15 seconds or less. They are about the mind game. You CANNOT mind game them back because they know where you are, but you can quickly learn to use their habits against them. You can CHOOSE where a Spooky will attack because you know how they LIKE to attack. This helps you cut down on the directions they will come from.

If you keep these ten things in mind, you will not feel out of depth against a Spooky. Last but not least, while MOST Spooky Myers Players will only do it with a map offering, do not assume that Myers on the big outdoor map isn't a Spooky. Watch for those warning signs. I play Spooky, pretending to be a normal Myers all the time, and you would be amazed how effective it is if they keep hiding, and trying to block me from stalking them.

sesawyer3127

Every SINGLE time I have played against Meyers he is always using the mori and killing you instantly so I just run him for as long as I can.

Moundshroud

@sesawyer3127 said:

Every SINGLE time I have played against Meyers he is always using the mori and killing you instantly so I just run him for as long as I can.

That isn't a Spooky Myers. I'm assuming you are talking about the Tombstone Piece or Judith's Tombstone. :) Both of those require Tier-3, and a Spooky Myers CANNOT leave Tier-1. The only way a Spooky Myers can Mori is with the basic Mori Offerings which means you have been hooked twice or hit Stage-2 by being on the hook too long. Most Spooky do not waste an offering on a Mori because most (not me) put in Map Offerings.

Well a Spooky COULD use Devour Hope or Rancor to Mori but these are uncommon on them as well. Most Spooky are taking Generator Regression Perks. :)

Shymare_11

I dislike jump scares and find them cheap. Obviously there are good ones out of no where, but for the most part I dislike them. Plus, scratch mirror Myers on indoor maps are likely play FANF on mega hard difficulty. Possible? Yes. Painful and blood pressure raise? Also yes.

Grandpa_Crack_Pipe

Can I have more Scratched Mirror Myers? All i've been getting lately are Tombstone Piece Myers.

Literally every single time.

DecisiveDwight

@AgentPug said:

I've been going for some adepts today cause of the rank reset bug and decided for Myers it would be fun to try out scratched mirror.

Long story short I kept doing really well but only getting ruthless with just a couple emblem points away from merciless because of an early DC.

The last game I did I had 2 people DC with one of them then waiting the entire game to trash talk me for using scratched mirror on Gideon meat plant.

Do people not like scratched mirror Myers? I always thought he was a fun jump scare playstyle that people enjoyed playing against and I personally think it's extremely fun to play against since it's actually scary if they're good.

I'm curious what the general consensus on how fun it is to play against scratched mirror since I never really thought about it that much.

I enjoy it when I go against a scratched mirror Myers I myself like to play sneaky with him but it is super annoying on a small map but that said it's difficult for him on a large map because of his speed and lunge

VioletCrimes

@Grandpa_Crack_Pipe said:

Can I have more Scratched Mirror Myers? All i've been getting lately are Tombstone Piece Myers.

Literally every single time.

Same. I am sick of one shot stabby Michael. I’ll take it slow sneaky Michael any day.

PureHostility

He is just boring. He is either utter crap (outdoor maps) and game becomes nothing more than m1 sim with ocassional hold W until he gives up or it is an indoor map and it is just stupidly annoying semi camping myers who will in 90% heavily proxy that Meghead he grabbed of a gen. (NEVER in my 3k hours haven't seen any Myers who runs this build do anything else).

He is not scary, he isnt even causing any sort of jump scares. I have no idea how you can be jump scared by him. After playing this game for longer than 50h he is nothing more than an asthmatic mouth breather with a 5$ knife.

It is just a slog fest of annoying events, either by outdoor map (he may as well go afk; match is extremely boring without any opposition to face against) or indoor map (solo queue is hell enough, Megheads will doom your team really quickly, especially against a killer with no TR).

whammigobambam

If you use a map, unfortunately content creators frequently disconnect when players play certain maps so like lemmings the playerbase follows suit.

Jasix

I LOVE going against Scratched Mirror Myers! The jump scares bring back the horror aspect of the game for me. It's very irritating when one or more people DC as soon as they figure out it's Scratched Mirror. I will never understand people purposefully DCing over something so silly - just get hooked - and die on hook if you want out THAT bad.

I main The Doctor as killer and see quite a few DCs because people don't want to face him - like seriously? Makes me wonder why these people even bother playing if they will only verse certain killers/add-ons. I see something similar on some killers when they DC due to survivors using certain perks or items - baffles me. I had a killer DC the other day in the EGC because - I had Soul Guard and he had NOED. He had 8 hooks (no kills) and was trying to slug everyone with NOED I assumed. As soon as I escaped - he DC'd. I was talking about it in my stream: Basically saying "Why would someone lose all their BP etc and do that!?!?" when he came in and called me a few racist and homophobic words - that told me everything I needed to know and he was immediately banned.

Seraphor

Survivors don't like playing against anything that doesn't let them win.