When Deathslinger gets his tome...

please, please, please DON'T make him a Micah bell expy. Caleb has a wonderful underdog story and would work a lot better as someone genuinely good at heart (unless you cross him) and open-minded than as... that.


So please, give us an ######### with a heart of gold when Caleb gets his tome.

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  • How much you want to bet that they'll go the nurse route and make him a hardcore racist or kicks baby's off of bridges

  • Caleb's an interesting character. He's a nasty guy, and derives clear satisfaction out of causing pain, but he's not a straight-up serial killer like many in the roster are; more that he's got an incredible temper and holds grudges unto hell. I don't know about a heart of gold, but I'd definitely like to see him loyal to his men, and play up those differences from characters like the Doctor and the Clown.

    So far, our track record with archives, characters who weren't presented as explicitly evil, and new directions on their lore is this:

    Spirit: Unchanged, she's just a schoolgirl with freaky bloodline wrath.

    Legion: Went from a bunch of kids with a bad egg leader who got in over their head with a single unplanned murder to at least two aspiring psychopaths who wanted to literally and figuratively set their town on fire and actively wanted to hurt people to do it. Susie still looks sympathetic and Joey is still unaccounted for, but Julie went from an unknown to the most twisted of the lot.

    Huntress: Unchanged. Wasn't exactly sympathetic, but it's pretty much what you'd expect from her at that stage of her life, and explains quite a bit about why she became such a misanthrope.

    Hag: Unchanged. She seems like a pretty timid but empathetic person. What happened to her friend was not even slightly her fault.

    Wraith: Killed more people than we previously knew about, but has extremely understandable and sympathetic motives, and wasn't made evil for it.

    Hillbilly: Unchanged. We could already infer what happened with him before his archives, but it painted him in an incredibly sympathetic and human light.

    Nurse: Previously seemed like she snapped and murdered everyone in the asylum out of a desire to spare them the endless horrors of Crotus Prenn (considering that she killed the staff too, and her mori is relatively painless and has a fond/sad gesture at the end.) Changed so that she killed because of perceived worthlessness and scorn, and killed by lethal injection instead of smothering.

    Plague: So far, she seems like a genuinely compassionate person, just blinded by dogma in a pretty barbaric religion and unwilling to think critically if it means challenging her beliefs.

    So Legion and Nurse got the unexpectedly evil treatment, but more often than not, it seems like the spirit of the character as presented in the original lore blurb is carried. Trapper also got super humanized despite him not exactly being a candidate for killers you'd expect to have ever been good.

  • @Airless said:

    How much you want to bet that they'll go the nurse route and make him a hardcore racist or kicks baby's off of bridges

    That's what 'Micah Bell expy' mean,s yeah. Hope they don't

    @Laluzi I wouldn't be too certain he gets satisfaction from causing pain per se, but from getting revenge on those who wronged him. That's how I read it.

  • @MeltingPenguins said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2171014#Comment_2171014

    That's what 'Micah Bell expy' mean,s yeah. Hope they don't

    @Laluzi I wouldn't be too certain he gets satisfaction from causing pain per se, but from getting revenge on those who wronged him. That's how I read it.

    It's the fact that he snickers whenever wounding survivors, and his speargun is such a cruel device (when he primarily used it to catch bounties, which were just part of a deal, not people who'd personally wronged him.) That said, going from that last bit of his lore, it's a little ambiguous whether he recognizes the survivors are just a bunch of random people or if he's been mindscrewed like Wraith, because there's an implication that he thinks he's punishing Bayshore/the warden/his bullies. If that's the case, then his sadism makes perfect sense.

  • @Laluzi said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2171211#Comment_2171211

    It's the fact that he snickers whenever wounding survivors, and his speargun is such a cruel device (when he primarily used it to catch bounties, which were just part of a deal, not people who'd personally wronged him.) That said, going from that last bit of his lore, it's a little ambiguous whether he recognizes the survivors are just a bunch of random people or if he's been mindscrewed like Wraith, because there's an implication that he thinks he's punishing Bayshore/the warden/his bullies. If that's the case, then his sadism makes perfect sense.

    I think given his eyes he does see survivors as those that wronged him.

    As for the bit about bounties, in a roundabout way it is to get back at those that wronged him (bayshore) as the warden promised to have bayshore rot in prison if caleb makes him rich.

    And that caleb used a harpoongun... This may sound absurd, but it's part of why i think he's autistic coded... like why go the easy way when you can get complicated and absurd? (And yes, minus the disembowlments etc i'm speaking from experience, i.e. why make this prob from cardboard or foam if I can just weld together solid brass :D (it was for a yugioh cosplay and damn it was a bad idea. but it looked amazing))