Changes charlotte should have during her "waking up" state
The massive speed decrease and camera lock need to be addressed as this is very annoying to deal with and with the new locker holding change with victor she has trouble getting to that locker. This is how she should work.
- The camera lock is removed.
- when victor holds a survivor in a locker or hits a healthy survivor you don't suffer from the "waking up" state or you recover from it faster.
These will reward charlotte for playing well but if victor gets crushed and you switch to her from him she will still suffer from the "waking up" state. I believe this would greatly help her and is a fairly reasonable buff to the twins.
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Only if you nerf victor...
Currently the best way to play against her is to keep victor hostage.
why nerf him there is counter play, A LOT OF IT.
Most of them involve communication. You cant communicate with randoms. So the only counters to victor is being healthy. Taking Victor hostage takes away the risk of you being attacked by Victor after you crush him.
As a side note: Victor has no downsides when downing injured people and by that i mean nothing stops him from going on rampages. In my opinion if you down someone with victor, Victor should die(but power bar gets refreshed.
you don't need to coms to do these things, simply staying near a survivor is enough. The only thing you need is for the survivors your with to not suck.
are seriously trying to say victor is too strong? he is only strong if you let him be, once survivors get better against him this killer will suck.
If i could choose survivors i play with i wouldnt have too much of a problem with it. As is i cannot choose non sucky survivors.
I am saying that victor is too strong vs team thats injured. On top of it the killer can camp with no punishment.
I'm just saying if you look at that list a lot of them is actually counterplay that you alone can pull off, most of them simply need you to be healthy which is easy with healing perks, medkits, or other survivors healing you which they should prioritize as that is one of the best counters to victor.
A killer being too strong because survivors are injured is on the survivors, they should be healing and sticking in pairs which is something you can do even as a solo. if there is reasonable counterplay which there is then there is no need for a nerf.
If you read all my comments you will see that I already said that.
I gave you a list of things to do against him which isn't limited to swf anyone can pull it off as well as addressed your concerns with reasonable arguments of counterplay that doesn't need a swf to pull off and simply because a killer is strong if the survivors are injured doesn't mean that it's unbalanced. If i missed something im sorry but i don't think he needs a nerf and the nerf you proposed was extremely unreasonable and would make this killer the worst in the game no matter what the devs did to them.
Healing is a simple counter anyone can pull off, he is punishable because when he downs a survivor you can crush him which is why you stick in pairs if someone is injured. that isn't swf level coordination that is something a solo can do hell i've been doing it. If other survivors are holding you back that will happen at first since people don't know what to do against this killer and that will change over time.
The list of of things to do is what you can do in theory. In theory i can live til i am 125, in reality i most likely die by the time i am 80-90. Most of the points is useless if my teammates are incompetent and cant read my mind. I cant forces players to do gens with me. I cant force players to kick victor if i go down as injured person.
I can go through entire list but i dont care enough to do so. Majority of them is extremely situational tho.
there are only 2 in a half (for sticking in pairs) on that list that relies on your team, while i do describe situations those are all things you can do as a solo and in practice easy to pull off.
you just couldn't point that out and dismissed it all. If it's the issue of healing that isn't some 200 IQ thing staying healed is something very easy to pull off just go up to a teammate and wave 9/10 times they heal you. No theories are used their unless your saying you can't rely on your team to heal then you surely brought your own means to heal then right? in which case it's not hard to stay healed and all the things in that list are reliable in a standard game.
the camping, killer location, and things you can do against them while situational are not uncommon in fact a few can be used in nearly every match. such as stunning charlotte, going into a locker, or doing a gen in front of charlotte, and what you do in instances of victor camping.