Big Disclaimer: As the Devs have stated, DO NOT base any of your arguments with this as evidence. As stated these stats are not perfect for example Nurse having the lowest kill rate even though she is arguably the best killer in the game.
Big Disclaimer: As the Devs have stated, DO NOT base any of your arguments with this as evidence. As stated these stats are not perfect for example Nurse having the lowest kill rate even though she is arguably the best killer in the game.
Too late.
Enjoy the "nerf X killer" threads for the next weeks 😂
I guess we can expect a Nurse, Plague, Blight, and Demo buff soonish as they're clearly the worst 4 Killers. :^)
I especially can't wait for the totally obvious buff to Plague of having her Super Vomit literally dissolve everything it touches permanently removing it from the match.
Enjoy the "nerf X killer" threads for the next weeks 😂
God please no. When they released the Archives stats I saw like 20 Twitter post saying the dumbest stuff imaginable I'm not ready for the next wave of conclusion jumping 😭
Big Disclaimer: As the Devs have stated, DO NOT base any of your arguments with this as evidence. As stated these stats are not perfect for example Nurse having the lowest kill rate even though she is arguably the best killer in the game.
That's funny, because when they answered my question about Myers at the beginning, Ethan the game designer said he looked at Mikey's stats when he got this question, and it reflected that chart above. Mikey is in the top half of performing killers, and therefore they don't feel he needs any buffs to his base kit.
She is the best killer or at least top 3 but she is the hardest to be good at, by a far amount, the skill gap is huge but a good nurse will 4k every game.
Console and PC game with FPS view and needing good aim (Dbd as a nurse, huntress, gunslinger etc...) can't be balanced the same way.
Consoles need their own balance solution and PC anotehr balance model.
Sure, crossplay couldn't work like this but we didn't ask for it...
Worst? No. Not even close. An average Nurse will struggle to get a 4K. A Nurse who has her skills down to a T will not be gentle with you. I've seen some terrible Nurses, and I've seen some serious god level Nurses. She is far from worst in the game!
I'm not really that surprised by the massive gap between all ranks and red rank kill rates.
The pip system is really harsh for killers. It's not hard to depip on a 2K depending on how the game went. The most reliable way to know you at least safety pip is to 3K. Staying in red ranks means you are killing most of the survivors every game.
Playing both solo survivor and killer in red ranks, red rank survivors are really hit or miss. Also I've had plenty of games where I look at the end game board and see all the survivors are green rank.
God please no. When they released the Archives stats I saw like 20 Twitter post saying the dumbest stuff imaginable I'm not ready for the next wave of conclusion jumping 😭
That's funny, because when they answered my question about Myers at the beginning, Ethan the game designer said he looked at Mikey's stats when he got this question, and it reflected that chart above. Mikey is in the top half of performing killers, and therefore they don't feel he needs any buffs to his base kit.
Yeah that confused me as well. He also did say based on community feedback Myers is considered very well made and balanced. The community might want to be louder about Myers if they want some buffs to him.
She is the best killer or at least top 3 but she is the hardest to be good at, by a far amount, the skill gap is huge but a good nurse will 4k every game.
Console and PC game with FPS view and needing good aim (Dbd as a nurse, huntress, gunslinger etc...) can't be balanced the same way.
Consoles need their own balance solution and PC anotehr balance model.
Sure, crossplay couldn't work like this but we didn't ask for it...
Worst? No. Not even close. An average Nurse will struggle to get a 4K. A Nurse who has her skills down to a T will not be gentle with you. I've seen some terrible Nurses, and I've seen some serious god level Nurses. She is far from worst in the game!
Kills don't really mean anything with the way matchmaking swings so hard. Sure I'll get an easy 4K if I bring my best killer expecting red rank survivors and then find out it was a team of purple rank or lower survivors.
The only thing these stats did was reinforce 4 things I already believed even if its not the whole story. GF is just a weaker Myers, people overestimate PH (he's still strong, js), Billy "nerf" didn't kill him, and Demo needs buffs.
But no you can't take these stats as the end all be all for balance, especially without considering why they are what they are. Like Nurse being harder to play so her kill rate is low from people learning her.
Another example is everyone lower than Legion has some sort of aim or learning curve higher than most killers, but everyone over him is pretty simple. So he's the weakest simple killer and those with lower kill rates than him are probably because of having to learn that particular killer or aim. So while of you go off this he's fine, in reality he's still pretty weak if the survivors are decent. Exception being Wraith, he's just weak without good add-ons.
Just my take. But I'm sure people will run wild with these stats, here's hoping they don't.
The only thing these stats did was reinforce 4 things I already believed even if its not the whole story. GF is just a weaker Myers, people overestimate PH (he's still strong, js), Billy "nerf" didn't kill him, and Demo needs buffs.
But no you can't take these stats as the end all be all for balance, especially without considering why they are what they are. Like Nurse being harder to play so her kill rate is low from people learning her.
Another example is everyone lower than Legion has some sort of aim or learning curve higher than most killers, but everyone over him is pretty simple. So he's the weakest simple killer and those with lower kill rates than him are probably because of having to learn that particular killer or aim. So while of you go off this he's fine, in reality he's still pretty weak if the survivors are decent. Exception being Wraith, he's just weak without good add-ons.
Just my take. But I'm sure people will run wild with these stats, here's hoping they don't.
I think that's a pretty well thought out analysis tbh, find it hard to disagree with.
@MandyTalk Thank you! Got worried I did something wrong for a moment, nice to see it was something positive instead. Just trying to glean what I can without going too far and share with the community.
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well since red rank is 50% potatoes yea pretty sure that's why, i have better teammate at purple rank
#BuffNurse
Please BHVR she's the worst killer in the game :(
@MusicNerd_TC
You'll love to see it 😂
Wow Plague is unpopular AND weak supposedly.
She does feel like she is required to have puke speedup addons and Thana, Her power feels very ineffective
and its even worse when Survivors deny her the use of her actual power. Hope she will get some love after Clown.
Everyone saying pig's one of the worse yet she's in the top 5 in kills. Gotta love statistics.
Big Disclaimer: As the Devs have stated, DO NOT base any of your arguments with this as evidence. As stated these stats are not perfect for example Nurse having the lowest kill rate even though she is arguably the best killer in the game.
Solo queue buffs anyone?
Too late.
Enjoy the "nerf X killer" threads for the next weeks 😂
I guess we can expect a Nurse, Plague, Blight, and Demo buff soonish as they're clearly the worst 4 Killers. :^)
I especially can't wait for the totally obvious buff to Plague of having her Super Vomit literally dissolve everything it touches permanently removing it from the match.
God please no. When they released the Archives stats I saw like 20 Twitter post saying the dumbest stuff imaginable I'm not ready for the next wave of conclusion jumping 😭
That's funny, because when they answered my question about Myers at the beginning, Ethan the game designer said he looked at Mikey's stats when he got this question, and it reflected that chart above. Mikey is in the top half of performing killers, and therefore they don't feel he needs any buffs to his base kit.
Proud of ya Legions. Solid middle of the pack
She is the best killer or at least top 3 but she is the hardest to be good at, by a far amount, the skill gap is huge but a good nurse will 4k every game.
Console and PC game with FPS view and needing good aim (Dbd as a nurse, huntress, gunslinger etc...) can't be balanced the same way.
Consoles need their own balance solution and PC anotehr balance model.
Sure, crossplay couldn't work like this but we didn't ask for it...
Worst? No. Not even close. An average Nurse will struggle to get a 4K. A Nurse who has her skills down to a T will not be gentle with you. I've seen some terrible Nurses, and I've seen some serious god level Nurses. She is far from worst in the game!
I'm not really that surprised by the massive gap between all ranks and red rank kill rates.
The pip system is really harsh for killers. It's not hard to depip on a 2K depending on how the game went. The most reliable way to know you at least safety pip is to 3K. Staying in red ranks means you are killing most of the survivors every game.
Playing both solo survivor and killer in red ranks, red rank survivors are really hit or miss. Also I've had plenty of games where I look at the end game board and see all the survivors are green rank.
Yeah that confused me as well. He also did say based on community feedback Myers is considered very well made and balanced. The community might want to be louder about Myers if they want some buffs to him.
You guys reaaally missed the joke,don't you? lol
The only thing these stats tell me is 🐽 needs more nerfs...
Why? The overall is right at that garbage 50% balance they want, which is why killer feels so weak.
Just because it's pig!
Lol maybe u re the problem?! #entitled4Kkiller
Dont want s 4k, just a strong chance at a 3k. Not sweat my balls off for a 2I brutal.
Oh great, can’t wait to deal with eight billion “DOCTOR OP!!!!!!!!!!” threads from bad Survivors because of these.
Kills don't really mean anything with the way matchmaking swings so hard. Sure I'll get an easy 4K if I bring my best killer expecting red rank survivors and then find out it was a team of purple rank or lower survivors.
Bubba top tier, Nurse Z tier.
The only thing these stats did was reinforce 4 things I already believed even if its not the whole story. GF is just a weaker Myers, people overestimate PH (he's still strong, js), Billy "nerf" didn't kill him, and Demo needs buffs.
But no you can't take these stats as the end all be all for balance, especially without considering why they are what they are. Like Nurse being harder to play so her kill rate is low from people learning her.
Another example is everyone lower than Legion has some sort of aim or learning curve higher than most killers, but everyone over him is pretty simple. So he's the weakest simple killer and those with lower kill rates than him are probably because of having to learn that particular killer or aim. So while of you go off this he's fine, in reality he's still pretty weak if the survivors are decent. Exception being Wraith, he's just weak without good add-ons.
Just my take. But I'm sure people will run wild with these stats, here's hoping they don't.
I think that's a pretty well thought out analysis tbh, find it hard to disagree with.
@MandyTalk Thank you! Got worried I did something wrong for a moment, nice to see it was something positive instead. Just trying to glean what I can without going too far and share with the community.