4 survivors individually = to 1 killer is bad

The_Bootie_Gorgon

because then you 400% vs 100%.

OllieHellhunter

I mean yeah, isnt that the point of asymmetric pvp games as a whole, both sides should be different but have equal chance to win.

ZCerebrate

I don't understand why this had to be a new thread... are you replying to someone in particular?

Also it's an "Assymetrical" game not sure if it's clear cut as 400% vs 100%.

It's more like 25%~30% per survivor and the last person has to do a minimum of 10% for a "fair game". While 4 competent players all running around at optimal 30% then it becomes favored to their side at the highest levels.

The_Bootie_Gorgon

@OllieHellhunter said:

I mean yeah, isnt that the point of asymmetric pvp games as a whole, both sides should be different but have equal chance to win.

but players want to 1vs1...

The_Bootie_Gorgon

@ZCerebrate said:

I don't understand why this had to be a new thread... are you replying to someone in particular?

Also it's an "Assymetrical" game not sure if it's clear cut as 400% vs 100%.

It's more like 25%~30% per survivor and the last person has to do a minimum of 10% for a "fair game". While 4 competent players all running around at optimal 30% then it becomes favored to their side at the highest levels.

4 players want to 1 vs 1 the one player...

NursesBootie

There are some delusional survivor mains that think being able to 1v1 a killer means he's balanced. It's obviously bs, but hey.

OllieHellhunter

@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1636810#Comment_1636810

but players want to 1vs1...

people also want to 1v5 in games like League of Legends, just cause you want something doesn't mean it should be easily achievable.

Heartbound

If only there was a way to reduce the four man team's numbers,

ZCerebrate

@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1636810#Comment_1636810

but players want to 1vs1...

Is this the thread you were looking for? It's still on the front page.

@azame said:

Alright so after thinking about how when I bring up a killer that if the survivor plays good can beat in a 1v1 I'm always told it's a a 4v1 game. Here are the flaws.

Solo:

Ok so if some killers should only remain 4v1 countered like slinger or PH the average solo team would be losing. Solo is very unorganized how exactly is this fair?

Solo is notoriously weak/bad team wise and yet at the very least your own skills mean nothing in chase against some killers in chase. These leads to people wanting to play swf which when played optimally brings me to my next point.

Complaining:

If survivors play swf in a way that is optimal like splitting on gens killers will complain about gen speeds going fast. Which is fair they are pretty fast. My point being that these 4v1 killers have no real 1v1 counterplay so survivors are left to split the gen pressure.

Now survivors are moaned at for "gen rushing" or making the game too quick for killers. This leads me to my last point.

This or that:

It's either we play solo and struggle against these 4v1 killers or play in an optimal swf and moaned at for splitting on gens. Pick one these 4v1 killers encourage swf because swf is the best way to beat them rather than an unreliable solo team. Thats undeniable.

Anyways that's my thoughts stay hydrated.

dspaceman20

Maybe to fix that they could change the MMR for survivors a little. Maybe they should make survivors join together with different MMR. One that has high mmr and those with MMR lower than that. And then have a good average killer.

Zozzy

@Heartbound said:

If only there was a way to reduce the four man team's numbers,

Shame you can only do so by completing 8% for every 20 to 60% of the opponents task isn't it?

MrLimonka

Do you know what the term "assymetric game" means?

SimplyNotFun

@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:

because then you 400% vs 100%.

It’s more like 40% vs 100%

SimplyNotFun

@SimplyNotFun said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/193583/4-survivors-individually-to-1-killer-is-bad

It’s more like 40% vs 100%

Survivors are really weak imo. Killers suffer zero cool down in between both missed and landed attacks. Killers are given a lot of information to go from target to target. A lot of The maps are usually too small.