There's no denying that hatch is a 2nd chance mechanic
We can debate all day about if it's fair or if it's a crutch, but see it for what it is: a 2nd chance. We talk about 2nd chance perks and stuff, but when you think about it, 2nd and 3rd chances are actually built into the core game.
How the survivors do on gens is irrelevant since it spawns no matter what, either when enough gens have been done or if there is just 1 survivor left. And people argue hatch is fair because a survivor can jump in, but not if the killer closes it first. That's the 2nd chance, and it's 100% RNG.
THEN for whatever reason, closing the hatch powers the gates, even if it was opened with a key. The killer can intercept the survivor opening the gate or they can't get there in time, and the survivor escapes. That's the 3rd chance. Therefore the initial defense of "But you can just close hatch!" is invalid, because even after that the survivor has a way out. Not to mention that the survivors could find another key and escape through it a 2nd time.
Can you kind of see why I want hatch removed? Killers have nothing like hatch, no 2nd chances built into the game. I don't want one either, because neither side should have that. Hatch is not skill-based. It's just something that exists for no good reason, and leads to a drastically different match result. If you want to defend it still, you must own that you're using a 2nd chance mechanic.
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Dawg I'm a killer main, currently rank 2, and even I see why it's there. I didn't say it was "flawless". There are faults with it as I stated; like multiple survivors escaping with one key being used, but calling it a second chance mechanic because it allows (when used at the end of the game) a SINGLE survivor to escape the trial when the REST of their team has died does not make it a crutch.
Accept the fact that not every game is a 4k and move on. This thread is literally pissing in the wind and complaining that you're getting wet from it.
Metagaming is not my thing im using perks that are covering my weak sides/let me play agressive, BBQ and whispers (to track survs, somehow i have to find all those blendettes), enduring so i can be agressive on pallets, and rotating perk depending on killer (M&A, dev hope, haunted)
I am not even sure why you reply to me. I never said you didn't have to earn your kills. Which maybe you were just confuse about the key thing. Which happens from time to time, that a key is found, allowing two or more survivors to escape by hatch, due to finding a key from a chest while in the match. Which on survivors part would be a smart thing to do, since it allows them to escape and not die aka get their objective done.
That and in the case you brought up, only a single survivor is good at the game. In your case, the killer has all the time in the world and if the other players are truly awful and did nothing but trade hooks all game. It sounds like there might still be a fair number of pallets left, the one remaining survivor can use. That and chase points exist for the killer, if they have all the time in the world to chase their target, they could be doing it for points, if the game ended so quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWEs9qKq6WAHere is a match ozt ended in a few minutes. He got under 20k points for it. Also here another ozt video, where the games show in both were so one sided. That the second one with legion, he was going to give the last person the hatch but wanted to train his chasing ability a bit before ending the match.
https://youtu.be/x2wTRfWzz1Y?t=458That and if the killer ran into this survivor first, so the killer has to lack self awareness or the ability to figure out, yeah this person is wasting to much of my time, i am going to go drop chase and try to find a easier target. One of the most common killer tips and advice given, is don't commit to chases to long and try to end them quickly. If someone is wasting to much of your time, drop the chase and find a easier target. It's advice fungoose gives out all the time. Which in the cases you give out, the killer is smart enough to use bad survivor plays against but is also at the same time, dumb enough to over commit to a chase against a single survivor. What is the skill level of this killer, for it seems very confusing that one minute they have a brain with the ability to figure out very simple things aka using the survivors misplays against them and than the next minute, they lose all ability to figure out simple things. Simply due to finding the only good survivor first. Like the skill level of this killer seems to lack consistency.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTKXsnoLbb0Which ok you got a 3k you got a 3k. You got a 4k you got a 4k. What is your point here my dude? You still won, be it a 3k or a 4k. It still a win if we go by the standards set by the devs.
ITT: "I KILLED THREE OF YOU, I DESERVE THE FOURTH. YOU ONLY SURVIVED UNTIL THE END, YOU DESERVE NOTHING."
You said "If you got three kills i think it's safe to say you won the game." I made the point that it's sometimes circumstantial that you got the 3k at all. If you found the good survivor first and chased them first, then you might not have gotten the 3k. I was more using what you said as a jumping off point.