Pallet Stuns should cancel Blood Fury
Pallet Stuns cancel the majority of Killers powers. So why is Oni exempt?
Plague collects her power and it has a long timer like Oni and she gets stunned out of it.
Legion has higher mobility and a way to deal with pallets in their power. And they get stunned out of it.
I just don’t get it. Oni has super high mobility and can quickly break pallets, so landing stuns on him is difficult anyway. Why not give his power the counterplay?
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It takes more effort to activate Onis power
It does not take plague great effort, but when the survs not cleanse she wouldn't have much corrupt fountains. So I think if it's fair to deny her power, even though she might only have one possibility, it's imo also perfectly fine to cancel oni power. Oni can always recharge, it "only" takes him some time. And hitting an Oni in his fury with a pallet sounds like a real achievement for me, so why not reward that? Plague has to mind for pallets in her corrupt state, why shouldn't Oni mind for that too?
Just want to point out that Myers doesn't lose Tier 3 when stunned. Like Oni it takes him some time to charge his power, so to me that seems consistent.
Because plague still has a power when she loses corrupt.
Oni does not.
Hm Myers, you are right there. But Myers EW is limited, he can stalk only a set amount per survivor. Oni can collect blood from his victims without limit. It would be really unfair if MYers power could be cancelt via stun. Esp. since pallets can hurt him already heavily in Tier 3, making him loop and waste his power. I can't see this issue with Oni in Fury, he got melee and Dash for handling pallets. To actually get a pallet stun on Oni in Fury is much more difficult than with Myers T3.
Like Helevetin said it is definetely harder for Oni to get his power compared to Legion or Plague.
A Legion or Plague can also punish you for dropping a pallet early.Oni can't (Other than breaking the pallet obviously)
His pallet breaking speed is pretty much the same with Demogorgon and his Shred (So no big difference to normal pallet breaking speed)
Legion or Plague have pretty much zero counterplay.With Legion you have to hope that you can make him miss his frenzy hit.And if you don't have tall enough obstacles between you and a Plague with her Corrupt Purge you're pretty much screwed as well.That's why those killers need the pallet stun as a counter play to their ability.
A Oni has more to consider when activating and using his power:
-How many pallets are nearby?
-Are there any long structures for the survivor to loop around? (For example jungle gyms with a long wall and a window in the middle counter him pretty hard)
-I'm using my sprint and the survivor broke LOS.Will he hide behind a corner or go for a nearby window/pallet?
Oni is a very strong killer but i don't think he is in desperate need of a nerf considering he already has a good amount of counterplay to make him either waste his power completely or at least wasting enough of his time to prevent him from chaining downs.
But on most map it's probably easier to stalk than to get a hit, Myers also has a smaller terror radius to help with stalking and surprise attacks, Oni does have nothing like that, he is basically powerless at the start.
Yes stalking may be esaier, but if you can't hit them you have nothing it. And EW is still a limited ressource. I would say Myers gets weaker the longer the match, bc EW runs out. Oni gets stronger, bc of more interactions with survs and decreasing pallets.
I'm not saying Oni strictly needs to loose his power on stun. I just thought he would, and was surprised he didn't. Bc i felt it would make sense.
True but Oni can join on the other side of the map just by counting to 3. Myers will take 20 seconds maybe ? That in case you are still there when he comes and you can still outrun him to a vault. Oni you cannot that easly
Yes but Oni has different restrictions to his powers like downing people, picking them up, lockers etc
Congratz for adding nothing useful at all to the discussion. We were discussing why Onis power is not canceled on pallet stun, when others are. A totally legitimate question. No one claimed such a thing should happen.
Oni is a weak killer in my opinion. Good survivors can keep his power sealed until two gens are left. He's good as he is, because you need a lot of game knowledge to get good with him.
Oni takes a lot more effort to get his power and it is limited.
Plague just has to have people that cleanse and give her corruption.
Legion’s power is on a very short timer.
It’s not hard to see how an angry orge wouldn’t be pulled out of his Blood Fury after a pallet stun. It would probably anger him even more.
That would hurt him way too much. No reason to make him unviable.
It's because he doesn't have anything else. Without his power active, he's a 115% M1 Killer. It also takes him a long time to get it.
Oni has the limit of time to his power.
You either have to go collect more blood orbs or get into another chase and get 2 hits.
If a pallet stun canceled his power then he would lose huge amounts of time trying to just get it back, and you would be playing a powerless killer for a large portion of the game because every pallet loop would become incredibly dangerous to you as Oni.