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No, SWF is not the problem

AsePlayer AsePlayer
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I'm really sick of everyone saying that 3 red rank SWFs playing with their yellow rank friend results in being able to bully the lower killers. I literally just had two back to back games where we were all red ranks in solo queue and we got matched with a green rank anyway. It's not SWF, it's the stupid matchmaking. Fix it. That is all.

/End rant

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  • oxygen oxygen

    Yeah blaming it on SWF when it's like that is just sorta silly. Anything +/- more than 6 ranks is either matchmaking itself getting drunk or a SWF party dragging a lower ranked player along to a higher rank.

  • Aven_Fallen Aven_Fallen

    @oxygen said:

    Yeah blaming it on SWF when it's like that is just sorta silly. Anything +/- more than 6 ranks is either matchmaking itself getting drunk or a SWF party dragging a lower ranked player along to a higher rank.

    To be honest, even 6 Ranks is too much. A Rank 2 Survivor vs a Rank 8 Killer (which is almost Green Ranks) is not fair at all (same the other way around of course, also not fair).

    Let alone that this Hard Cap is not working every time.

  • PigMainClaudette PigMainClaudette

    They deliberately changed the matchmaking for SWF to specifically so that a red rank can't go up against green ranks with a brown ranked partner. It probably has more to do with connection strength than actual matchmaking. Not to mention, there's probably a hidden component to the matchmaking. I've played as a rank 12 killer with rank 14-17 survivors who acted like they were purple ranks. If survivors do WAY better than their rank suggests, there's probably a hidden matchmaking boost to get them more into the games they should.

  • Aven_Fallen Aven_Fallen

    @PigMainClaudette said:

    They deliberately changed the matchmaking for SWF to specifically so that a red rank can't go up against green ranks with a brown ranked partner. It probably has more to do with connection strength than actual matchmaking. Not to mention, there's probably a hidden component to the matchmaking. I've played as a rank 12 killer with rank 14-17 survivors who acted like they were purple ranks. If survivors do WAY better than their rank suggests, there's probably a hidden matchmaking boost to get them more into the games they should.

    No, there is a Hard Cap of 6 Ranks. This means that Green Ranks can play vs Red Ranks without any problem. But this Hard Cap is also not working everytime - I also had Rank 12 Killers as Rank 1 Survivor, this is almost double the amount that is allowed (which is an edge case, but still).

    So Rank 12 with Rank 17 is totally fine, according to the Matchmaking. If it is fine from a gameplay-perspective is a different story.

  • oxygen oxygen

    @Aven_Fallen said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/899325#Comment_899325

    To be honest, even 6 Ranks is too much. A Rank 2 Survivor vs a Rank 8 Killer (which is almost Green Ranks) is not fair at all (same the other way around of course, also not fair).

    Let alone that this Hard Cap is not working every time.

    Yeah, it doesn't always work and deciding what the actual range should be is potentially balancing on a fine line between match quality and potentially incredibly bad queue times, especially in low-pop regions, at sparsely populated ranks and during more unusual hours. It doesn't really have any obvious solution besides letting players themselves toggle between quick match and "quality match" or whatever someone wants to call it.

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