Fifth Perk for killers ?

DarkGGhost

The thing with the killers is they need perks in order to do good in the game. The reason is survivors are just a skin and no matter the meta of the changes they can just add the perks they need and all is good, but killers have specific play style and most of the time they can changes that. For example when the Pig came out she has the first killer ( and only ) can stop the gens just because her power can kill survivors with that. The only other way to stop gens is with ruins and we all know what happen when you use hex perks. So by giving killers 5 perks slots they can make more combos and have more efficient gameplay.
I will love to hear your opinion on that, thanks for your time.

Mrrgle_the_Mediocre

@DarkGGhost said:
The thing with the killers is they need perks in order to do good in the game. The reason is survivors are just a skin and no matter the meta of the changes they can just add the perks they need and all is good, but killers have specific play style and most of the time they can changes that. For example when the Pig came out she has the first killer ( and only ) can stop the gens just because her power can kill survivors with that. The only other way to stop gens is with ruins and we all know what happen when you use hex perks. So by giving killers 5 perks slots they can make more combos and have more efficient gameplay.
I will love to hear your opinion on that, thanks for your time.

From a Killer main's perspective even I can say that's too much. We're going for balance, not superiority on the other side. I see where you're coming from, but we've done fine with 4 perks so far, I think 5 perks would just tilt the boat.

VayneHellslinger

Hard to balance, especially as more stuff gets added to the game. As more killers and new perks get added the more beneficial having that extra perk slot become, especially if killers get a great 5 perk combo going. Not to mention there is a 100% chance survivors will take that without a tidal wave of self-righteous anger and honestly, it wouldn't be too misplaced.

DarkGGhost

I see. So what if they give us an extra perk but this will be an effect perk. This effect will be a small percentage of existing perks. For example at lvl1 or 5 you unlock the effect you can carry survivors 2-3 % faster, lvl 10 you go through windows 4-5 % faster ... and you can choose only one to have in your game active. This way you can help new killers play the game more easy and pro have more variety in builds.

Orion

I posted a suggestion on the Wishlist section that someone else came up with that's similar to this. In that suggestion, the fifth perk slot would be for Hex perks only.

VayneHellslinger

@DarkGGhost Now the second idea is more interesting. Essentially you want the fifth slot to have a passive effect. This idea is much more controlled and allows for easier integration and rebalance. Keep in mind that whatever the passive is it has to be a QoL (Quality of Life) change. Stuff like speed up animations for hitting a gen or pallet, or slightly shorter flashlight duration. Nothing too general like speed boost while walking or longer lunge range

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DarkGGhost

@VayneHellslinger Thank you after you point out the mistakes from the first idea I try to find something that will be useful and not unbalanced for both side. 

mcNuggets

I want the game to be balanced for both sides.
Not a fifth perk slot. (Still a waste)

DarkGGhost

@Hillbilly420 The thing with ruin is isn't necessary to play and win the game but the problem is hex totems and perks are very easy to find and destroyed so instead of pake it the hex perks the fifth perk just mae it so survivora can't break totems before one survivors get down. 

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Master

@Mrrgle_the_Mediocre said:

@DarkGGhost said:
The thing with the killers is they need perks in order to do good in the game. The reason is survivors are just a skin and no matter the meta of the changes they can just add the perks they need and all is good, but killers have specific play style and most of the time they can changes that. For example when the Pig came out she has the first killer ( and only ) can stop the gens just because her power can kill survivors with that. The only other way to stop gens is with ruins and we all know what happen when you use hex perks. So by giving killers 5 perks slots they can make more combos and have more efficient gameplay.
I will love to hear your opinion on that, thanks for your time.

From a Killer main's perspective even I can say that's too much. We're going for balance, not superiority on the other side. I see where you're coming from, but we've done fine with 4 perks so far, I think 5 perks would just tilt the boat.

To be honest, I dont think that 5 perks would change a lot.
Killers are struggling because of the core mechanics of the game, an additional perk wont change anything

DarkGGhost

@Hillbilly420 I am rank 1 and play all the killers except bill and nurse ( main have before buff ), and when I say ruin is not necessary I mean at higher ranks (5-1) survivors can power up the gens with ruin and only loss 30-40 second max but if you talking about lower ranks yes is very useful and can give an easy win.

DarkGGhost

@Master yes is true the core of the game will not change with the a fifth perk but it will give power to killer witch is necessary. 

NMCKE

Orion said:

I posted a suggestion on the Wishlist section that someone else came up with that's similar to this. In that suggestion, the fifth perk slot would be for Hex perks only.

I like the idea @Orion, wouldn't hurt to test on the PTB. Only problem is that there's very few hex perks ATM, we need more hex perks!

DarkGGhost

Nickenzie said:

Orion said:

I posted a suggestion on the Wishlist section that someone else came up with that's similar to this. In that suggestion, the fifth perk slot would be for Hex perks only.

I like the idea @Orion, wouldn't hurt to test on the PTB. Only problem is that there's very few hex perks ATM, we need more hex perks!

The thing is if you do this then all of the game will be like this . Game start survivors destroy totems and then they do it gens and then they will escape . 

Orion

@DarkGGhost said:
The thing is if you do this then all of the game will be like this . Game start survivors destroy totems and then they do it gens and then they will escape . 

So the trials will be longer? Excellent, two birds with one perk slot.

DarkGGhost

@Orion said:

@DarkGGhost said:
The thing is if you do this then all of the game will be like this . Game start survivors destroy totems and then they do it gens and then they will escape . 

So the trials will be longer? Excellent, two birds with one perk slot.

This will work only if you add more totems like 5-6 more